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Source: BBG
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg,.com
Published: Jun 10, 2010
Author: Dunstan McNichol
Post Date: 2010-06-10 10:41:20 by war
Keywords: None
Views: 13178
Comments: 75

June 10 (Bloomberg) -- Robbinsville, the central New Jersey town where Governor Chris Christie appeared last week to promote his plan to cap annual property-tax increases at 2.5 percent, won approval yesterday to raise its tax bills by 29 percent.

The $2.3 million increase will boost the average homeowner’s municipal tax bill to $2,000 from about $1,600, Mayor David Fried said during a hearing before the state’s Local Finance Board in Trenton. It is the result of a 2007 reassessment that prompted warehouse owners such as closely held Matrix Development Group to file successful appeals that are costing the community more than $1 million, Fried said.

Fried was among 57 mayors Christie listed on a May 26 press release as supporting his plan to impose a 2.5 percent limit on annual property-tax increases. Christie was in Robbinsville June 3 for the fourth of several town hall meetings he is holding to talk about his proposal, aimed at controlling growth in New Jersey’s property taxes, which are the highest in the nation.

“We have done everything we possibly can,” Fried said during testimony on his tax increase. “It’s a very good question how we’re going to get to 2.5 percent.”

New Jersey’s property-tax bills averaged $7,281 per household last year, according to the state Department of Community Affairs. The levy has climbed 72 percent since they averaged $4,239 in 1999.

Over The Limit

Robbinsville is among 26 communities to seek approvals this year for property-tax increases in excess of the current cap of 4 percent that was put into place through legislation in 2007 by former Governor Jon Corzine, according to Local Finance Board records.

Fried said he averaged tax increases of 2.75 percent annually for the past six years. In an interview after the meeting, he said he can stick to Christie’s proposed limit as long as accompanying changes to public employee contracts are enacted.

Christie, an obese 47-year-old Republican who took office Jan. 19, is pressing lawmakers to approve his 2.5 percent cap by early August, in time for it to appear as a proposed constitutional amendment on the November ballot. He has said Corzine’s 4 percent limit allows for too many exemptions. Under Christie’s proposal, local governments and schools would only be able to exceed the cap through public referendums or to cover debt- service payments.

“Right now we have a very leaky cap,” Christie’s spokesman, Mike Drewniak, said in a telephone interview yesterday. “It is our goal to get a hard cap in place.”

Cost Control

Christie has proposed a 33-point package of bills aimed at helping the state, municipalities and school districts control their costs. His plan would allow local governments to opt out of civil-service laws and cap public-employee raises and benefits at 2.5 percent a year.

Drewniak declined to comment on the situation in Robbinsville or other communities. Thirteen towns won approval yesterday to exceed the cap, including the Essex County town of Montclair, where the median income is almost double the U.S. level, according to U.S. Census Bureau data. Mayor Jerry Fried, 52, said he had no choice.

“A cut of this magnitude would be devastating,” Fried told the Local Finance Board in defense of a 10 percent tax increase worth $1.1 million. The average Montclair homeowner last year paid $15,585 in property taxes, which also includes school and county levies, state data show. Fried didn’t have an estimate of how much more bills would be.

Fried said residents were already outraged by a one-month delay in opening the municipal pool, a $90,000 cut in preschool subsidies and a $500,000 reduction in aid to the local library.

“Anything beyond that would be jeopardizing public safety and public support for the budget,” he said.

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#34. To: Abu el Banat (#33)

Honestly, I don't care. I don't see him, unless one of you cut and paste something, I don't respond to him.

Fact is he's been getting warned by our host on a variety of things lately.

This one has legal implications. He knows better. But he simply can't control himself, as he's show at the other six forums he's been banned from.

Anyway, its not my call, and as I noted above I am biased.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   14:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

From this day forward, Stone will be required to proof read anything the Tic posts. Is it any wonder the Tic is booted from forums early and often?

Why don't you invite Badeye over to your site? I'm sure Christine would just love to have him as a poster there.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   14:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#34)

Fact is he's been getting warned by our host on a variety of things lately.

Such as?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   14:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Badeye (#34)

Fact is he's been getting warned by our host on a variety of things lately.

This one has legal implications. He knows better. But he simply can't control himself, as he's show at the other six forums he's been banned from.

Threatened today by one who banned the site host Stone from another site. LOLOL

So you now keep a database of forums posters are banned from?

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   14:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Badeye (#34)

Fact is he's been getting warned by our host on a variety of things lately.

Such as?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-10   14:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Abu el Banat (#33)

You're just trying to get war banned.

It's the only reason he is here...I have the email...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   14:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Fred Mertz (#38)

Such as?

Badeye hallucinates wildly at times.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   14:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mininggold (#37) (Edited)

So you now keep a database of forums posters are banned from?

Chuckles...

As was pointed out...it's 4...Lucianne...FR...Pipe...and Jerk Hunt['s site aka wehatehebes.com...

I was reinstated to Pipe.

I've not been banned from LP. I've been suspended. ]

The irony of Jerk Hunt and Boofer being LF buds is the fact that Boof was banned from 4um without having registered.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   14:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mininggold (#40) (Edited)

Keep in mind that he doesn't care about me.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   14:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Badeye (#34)

I didn't know all that.

Is it true he's really unemployed and lives under a bridge?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-10   14:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Abu el Banat (#43)

No...my Mommy's basement in Long Island...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   14:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Abu el Banat (#43)

(laughing) I have no idea.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   14:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#41)

The irony of Jerk Hunt and Boofer being LF buds is the fact that Boof was banned from 4um without having registered.

Heh.... they still are bedmates on Palin though.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   14:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#44)

my Mommy's basement in Long Island...

Some interesting people come from Long Island. Ever hear of this guy? (I'm violating copyright law by not attributing it)


I used to be easy to find. Lived on the last left on Long Island, New York, United States of America. First house on that winding, rural cul de sac. In search of me, if worse came to worst, you could've traveled east on Long Island until you ran out of road at the lighthouse at land's end, then turned around, headed back west and made your first right. There I was, first house.

Long Island. Last left. First house.

Someone in, say, Jakarta, Indonesia, which is about as far as you can get from where I lived on the planet before you start coming back closer again, could have easily been directed to me with those six words.

One time I was in New York City, some 120 miles west of that house, and decided to try an experiment. I bought a postcard at a Grand Central Station kiosk, wrote on it just my name, plus "11954," and mailed it. When I returned to my home a couple of days later, it was waiting for me in my mailbox.

That's how small the town is where I used to live. And how easy I was to find when I lived there.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-10   14:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Abu el Banat (#47) (Edited)

Trick question...you can do either on either fork of Long Island.

That said, I've been to North Fork. A bunch of us went out there in the Summer of 1988 when a collegaue of ours wife and dog went down in a plane in LI Sound going over to Block island. The guy thought that the dog was a good swimmer and may have made land.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   14:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war (#48)

Google maps here I come.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-10   15:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull, badeye (#26)

Good detective work.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-10   19:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Badeye (#24)

'I don't give a fuck if the site owner gets his ass sued'.

That isn't very friendly

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-10   20:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: SPINNER (#8)

From the "POST" page:

URL Source: (optional)

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bite me.

You have sinned. You are caught. And still this attitude?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-10   20:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: BIG GUN (#52) (Edited)

I didn't realize that they ran this site.

Good luck and thanks.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   20:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: all (#0)

I don't get this thread. Is war banned or can he now only log in as spinner? It seems he is leaving anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-06-10   20:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: no gnu taxes (#54)

Is war banned or can he now only log in as spinner?

I'm thinking it over.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-10   20:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: SPINNER (#21)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   11:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: no gnu taxes (#19) (Edited)

but I never change the text of the article.

I didn't "change" anything.

And thanks for admitting one but you know that you do the other.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

SPINNER  posted on  2010-06-10   11:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


Ya' freaking screwball, you added the word "obese" to the Bloomberg article. I begged u to take it down, and the best you could muster up is "bite me." You are a certified head case.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   20:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: BIG GUN (#51)

Wasn't reflective of my thought process.

Ya'll are dealing with a poster here that got banned from LP because he made a rude comment that ticked the site host off, got suspended til he apologized for the offending remark.

He didn't apologize. Perhaps that gives you some insight into what was done here, and his reaction to be caught red handed. He doesn't give a damn about the site, any site.

Basically he's a better educated version of Buckeroo in that regard.

Good luck, you'll need it.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   21:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Jethro Tull (#56)

Duh...(laughing)

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-10   21:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Badeye (#57) (Edited)

Please Boof...as if you care...

Love,
Spinner aka your antigroupie

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   21:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#56) (Edited)

Please Cunt...as if you care...

Love,
Tic

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   21:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Badeye (#57)

He didn't apologize.

There was no need to. Packrat posted soft porn of under 18 year olds and routinely made comments of others.

And if you want to go toe to toe over who, between us, has acted the worst towards others, you'd lose and you know it.

And it's time that you dropped the pretense of having me on filter. Not one person here believes it and you look a fool.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   21:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Tic (#60)

Please Cunt...Love....

What is with the love? Egad. Hey Tic, man up and admit what you did was reckless and in very poor judgement. Critical self evaluation goes a long way.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   21:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jerk Hunt, Boofer (#62) (Edited)

I owe you zipadeedoodah, asshole. You and Boofer do not run me and you most certainly do not run this site.

Love,
Spinner, Tic, antigroupie and TBD

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   21:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#63)

I owe you zipadeedoodah, asshole. You and Boofer do not run me

Who said we did? Keep doing what you do brother, you aren't my problem.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   21:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#64) (Edited)

Then stop acting as if I am - OR ANYONE ELSE'S...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-10   21:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: BIG GUN (#55)

I'm thinking it over.

Don't hurt yourself.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-10   22:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: BIG GUN (#55)

Did you change the title? Asshole thing to do if you axe me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-10   22:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: BIG GUN (#50)

Good detective work.

You're an idiot if you side with those two Boofers, IMO.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-10   22:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: BIG GUN (#52)

Tull banned you at 4um and brags about it here. Have you no shame?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-10   22:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

What is with the love? Egad.

I knew it ...you are Grand Island on LP.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-10   23:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Fredo (#69)

Fredo, I banned you too :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   23:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: mininggold (#70)

I knew it ...you are Grand Island on LP.

Are you doing red or white this evening? Perhaps both? Lets not neglect Mama....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   23:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Fred Mertz, war (#68)

The issue isn't tull, or badeye. I think it is good when a bunch of people look at articles and catch stuff like this. War you I have a question for you. Now be honest. Have you ever edited the content of any other articles? Oh you can't answer me. Think about it. I'll unsuspend you by Sunday.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-11   6:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: BIG GUN (#73)

Thanks Stone. It appears those forum members who are on the left side of the political spectrum not only took up for a member who was reckless, but went on to attack those who read his *altered* copyrighted article and suggested he change it. It appears the left wing will shoot the messenger, rather than the message, but that is what they do best.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-11   7:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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