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Title: Time to Call the Tea Party's Bluff
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URL Source: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub ... _to_call_the_tea_party_s_bluff
Published: Jun 3, 2010
Author: Froma Harrop
Post Date: 2010-06-03 09:52:42 by go65
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Views: 16999
Comments: 57
I'm done trying to hack through the tea party thicket of self-contradiction, self-delusion and self- serving positions. My last straw is Rand Paul, a tea party favorite and now Republican nominee for senator from Kentucky. What damns Paul wasn't the flap over his views on the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Presumably, Paul isn't a racist. He's just a privileged white guy -- a doctor and son of 11-term congressman Ron Paul -- who lacks feeling for America's tragic history of racism. What makes Rand Paul so exasperating is his crashing hypocrisy on Medicare. The hero to the cause of smaller government and balanced budgets also vows not to touch Medicare -- the biggest and fastest- growing expense on the federal balance sheet. Rand's compromised stance reflects the political necessity of keeping the tea party people happy. The group is heavy with older folk, who have carefully drawn a line of self-interest around the king of government entitlements, Medicare. Here's a sample view from a leader of the Rhode Island tea party: "We understand that the federal government cannot take $500 billion out of Medicare and provide the same medical services to our elderly, all the while offering health care to 30 million new people, without a vast increase in the number of providers, the imposition of massive new taxes and/or the rationing of care." Where does one start? First off, the new health care legislation does not cut a single guaranteed Medicare benefit. It actually expands the offerings to include screening services and closing the drug- benefit doughnut hole. The savings come largely from ending overpayments to the private Medicare Advantage plans. As for "the massive new taxes," would the tea party folk please tell us where they are? While they're looking, the public should note that money for the new health care legislation is honestly allocated. That can't be said of the Republicans' 2003 Medicare drug benefit -- a corporate bonanza for which not a penny was funded. Our tea party spokeswoman goes on to claim that, in any case, "we paid" for Medicare. Oh, really? It happens that Medicare payroll taxes provide 40 percent of the program's funding and premiums another 12 percent. The remaining 39 percent comes from general revenues (mostly income taxes). Much of the payroll and income taxes are born by people who won't live long enough to collect benefits themselves. And given the spiraling costs of the program, today's young taxpayers will never see the level of benefits that they are now subsidizing. What is the extent of the support? A typical couple retiring in 2020 will have paid about $100,000 in lifetime Medicare taxes but will receive $500,000 in scheduled Medicare benefits over the premiums they pay to the program. This is according to C. Eugene Steuerle, a tax policy expert at the Urban Institute. I asked Steuerle about the income taxes that many Medicare beneficiaries paid and continue to pay. He responded that "given the large deficits we're running and the benefit level relative to previous or current tax levels, there's still no doubt that current generations are being subsidized by future generations." My question to the tea party's lovers of liberty: If you really think you've paid for Medicare and hate big government, why don't you demand that this expensive program be ended? Hey, the same Constitution that (you keep insisting) says nothing about a universal right to health coverage doesn't guarantee health benefits for older people, either. Of course, you will get a refund for those payroll taxes you've paid. But tea party patriots are not clamoring to lift the taxpayers' yoke of subsidizing their retirements. The phoniness of this movement is hard to calculate.
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#17. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
Perhaps WeThePeople are a bit TIRED of paying Leftists to LIE to us...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Fuck off...it's apparent that since you obviously cannot write that you also CAN'T read. Best to the wife. Then again, had you, you'd still have her. (laughing)
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
You're attracted to the smell of fish, Cunt? Not surprised...you're USED to it. (laughing)
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
A bit off my game? Chuckle.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Tea Party Leader Criticizes McDonnell: http://www.examiner.com/x-16143-Richmond-Republican-Examiner~y2010m2d22-Tea-Part- leader-criticizes-Governor-McDonnell Guiliani stumps for McDonnell: http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2009/102009/10292009/503913/index_html Romney campaigns for McDonnell: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/10/romney_gets_int.html Palin: McDonnell asked for my help, then changed his mind: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2009/10/republican_bob_mcdonnell_repea.html
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
So things like oil platform inspections, the coast guard, EPA, and minerals and mining safety? OK, run on that, please!
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
yeah, we proved that by losing PA-13 and NY-23. Oh wait....
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
I wonder when you on the Left will realize you'd be better off not mentioning the TP in any context. So far, the best thing to happen for it is the Garafolo's and Olberman's on your side uttering insane hate based insults that were easily swatted down. Its like taunting a big mean dog on a weak chain. Eventually, that dog is going to break loose and tear you all up.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
You wanna brag about PA-13 going to a guy that agrees with Limbaugh, be my guest....(laughing) Pro life, pro gun, anti tax, anti spend, anti Owe-bama care, anti cap and trade. Anti Pelosi. His words. Pity your party leadership isn't learning from HOW he won.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
Limbaugh wants to keep the flow of pork going to PA-13? Really?
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
We don't haveta run on anything other than being the ANTI-ObamaNation, my friend...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Dude, I have NEVER even heard of that so-called TeaPartyLeader until now...yer trying to make mountains outta molehills...all that matters is that we agree that the ObamaNation is a Marxist EEEEEVIL that we MUST STOP...nothing else really matters, GO65, other than defeating the Marxist RAT scumbags like Obama and his ilk...the writing's on the wall, the RATS are being exposed for the anti-American, anti-Capitalist, anti-Liberty BigGuv'ment Statists they've been all along!! Regards...MUD BTW...just wondering, R U a government employee per chance?
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Nolu_Chan's a "RETIREE"!! LOL...I always figgered him as a 20-something...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, OK, run on that, please! Ohhhh.....yes....of course. Great observation. The current regime has done a bang up job on all that......DO....run on those massive successes........BITTE..:):) Chuckles......you'll never grasp how silly you look will you.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And yet one more stupefying comment from Dwarf's muzzle.... "The FRB is not unconstitutional. It was created by the Congress as it's chosen means to regulate the value of money." Welcome to our latest tard fake....DR SKIPPY INTRO!!!!!!and all us others thought to just throw away the used matchbooks rather than avail ourselves of the educational opportunities......LOL!!!!!!!
Yeah Mudboy, Obama's marxism is what is keeping him from nationalizing BP.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
BBBBWWWWAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!!! Catch this idiot poodles' latest moronic comment. Let's not remind him maybe the reason obamunist can't nationalize BP might have something to do with the British in the "BP". Kicking these pathetic morons around is getting to be mundane......
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And yet one more stupefying comment from Dwarf's muzzle.... "The FRB is not unconstitutional. It was created by the Congress as it's chosen means to regulate the value of money." Welcome to our latest tard fake....DR SKIPPY INTRO!!!!!!and all us others thought to just throw away the used matchbooks rather than avail ourselves of the educational opportunities......LOL!!!!!!!
LOL...even fer the Great&MercifulLordMessiahObama, it'd be rather unprecedented fer an American President to NATIONALIZE British Petroleum!! Chuckle/cackle...I must commend you on yer very Progressive thinking, though, my fascist(-defending) friend...MUD BTW...R U gonna support SlickBarryOWE or the Hildabeast fer POTUS in 2012?
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Word, mi muchacho, word... That said, you gotta sorta feel sorry fer the RAT-minions HOO attached sooo much HOPE and TRUST in this unqualified, uncredentialed, unaccomplished, Marxist-MORON fer their own personal happiness. I mean, have you ever seen one of these RAT-TROLLS ever say a bad thing about their RAT-Messiah?! Hell- friggin'-NO!! These RAT-TROLLS LOOOOOVE their RAT-Messiah no matter how much he screws up this great nation!! And they will continue to defend them FOREVER becuz they still LOOOOVE SlickWillie (and FatTeddyK) to this day!! Pathetic?! Of course...but that's Y they R braindead RAT-MORONS, duhhh!! Just call me "MOTO"**...MUD BTW...**MasterOfTheObvious.
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Whatever...I left the GOP in 2002 and have enjoyed my Independent Status ever since...the issue is Obama's Marxist ideology. R U insisting that the RAT- Messiah is NOT a Marxist/Leftist/Socialist/BigGuv'mentLovin'&Trustin'/Progressive/RAT-MORON?! Or R U admitting that Obama is in fact a Marxist/Leftist/Socialist/BigGuv'mentLovin'&Trustin'/Progressive/RAT-MORON?! Just clarifying our terms, mi amigo del Castro es Magnifico...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, LOL...MUD "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Not unlike the Obamabot RAT-nominee fer the SCOTUS, that CharlesKuraltInDrag cattle...BUTT-friggin' MOOOGLY!!
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Need I mention Ruth "Buzzi" Ginsberg, HOO looks like the Wicked Witch of the West (just not quite as sexy)...MUD BTW...it is stormin' something fierce here in Richmond, Virginny this evening...yet the new, improved MudCave's electricity and internet connxn are holding up fine.
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, It isn't just the RATS it is ALL "PROGRESSIVES" regardless of the party label they wear. ia what ALL "PROGRRESSIVES" both RINO and RAT do every time their lips move. is what they will do to YOU as long as you see "PROGRESSIVISM" and "SOCIALISM" as just a matter of party label and continue to vote for "R" SOCIALISTS AND PROGRESSIVES like Shrubya rather than genuine constitutionalist Conservatives!!
So fook off liberal bitch. Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
I do NOT disagree, CS...in fact, RINOs tend to piss me off even more than RATS do when they sell WeThePeople down the river...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, You sir, are a moron. And i say that as nicely as a I can. BP Americas is a subsidiary of BP, headquartered in Houston, TX.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Why would you even consider Nationalizing BP, GO65? Why would the RAT-Messiah even consider nationalizing school loans, General Motors, Chrysler? It's becuz Obama's a friggin' power-whorin' FASCIST, dude...and you BLINDLY support him, my friend. Gonna take a while fer you to overcome the damage you are doing to yer reputation with this nonsensical defense of EVERYTHING the Marxist RAT-Messiah does, GO65. In fact, I predict you will eventually be compelled to abandon yer present screen name and come back with something faaar less-sullied in the future. Regards...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Or R U admitting that Obama is in fact a Marxist/Leftist/Socialist/BigGuv'mentLovin'&Trustin'/Progressive/RAT-MORON?! Just clarifying our terms, mi amigo del Castro es MuuuyMagnifico...MUD "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, "Being an Obamabot RAT-minion means you must choose to ignore the reality that the ObamaNation is imploding before our very eyes..." Or sumthin' like that...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Preachin' to the choir, buddy, preachin' at the choir...LOL!!
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, BWWWHHHAAAAA!!!!!! And the stupid keeps right on flowing out of your mullett there GObamma. You even posted the "subsidiary" part and still are lost on the concept of actual corporate ownership of satellite operations. Just so you can fill your bulging foreheaded, beady eyed, near mongoloid intellectual CPU with something factual ..... let me stoop to "hepping" you just this once: The hard assets of "BP America" are non existent other than some desks, paperclips and filing cabinets in Houston.......the oil platforms you repulsive thieving socialist BOTS desire are simply not seize-able by any of you collectivist lowbrows. Steer clear of attempts to do anything more taxing than your typical incessant rah rah cheering you sycophantic clown........you'll look even more silly (hard to imagine that being possible) trying to keep up with the dialog.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And yet one more stupefying comment from Dwarf's muzzle.... "The FRB is not unconstitutional. It was created by the Congress as it's chosen means to regulate the value of money." Welcome to our latest tard fake....DR SKIPPY INTRO!!!!!!and all us others thought to just throw away the used matchbooks rather than avail ourselves of the educational opportunities......LOL!!!!!!!
When I was a kid, both my parents would fill up my head... I can still hear the vile, Lib'ral spin on Network TeeVee... Left loves Statist Power..it ain't Right..nutjobs spin US!! I can still see ol' Dutch Reagan's grin each time we VOTE FREE!! Obama's a TOOL...Iran's got him whupped 'cuz BO's weak!! You can still see the bought Network T'WITS sellin' LIES BO needs... Mudboy Slim (12 July 2010) "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, GO65's a bit off his game today, Mud. I think its the shock of realizing this November is going to be a big time asskicking for the Dems, and the fact Owe- bama is looking more and more to be a one term failure ala Carter. A bit off my game? We now have the benefit of hindsight being 20/20...yes, you were a bit off your game....lol
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
He/she/it wasn't even in the ballpark!
Just for kicks I scanned the database here, going back almost a year or so. Its HILARIOUS noting who claimed what 'then' in comparision to whats actually happened up til 'now'. The dwarf's fixation is also hilarious. I knew it was bad from the cut and paste quotes sent my way...but damn...there has to be a psychological term for 20,000 posts to somebody that never responded (roaring with laughter) Oh well....
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
slow day at the office today?
did you happen to find someone claim that the Republicans would win 70+ seats in the house and take the Senate?
We now have the benefit of hindsight being 20/20...yes, you were a bit off your game....lol slow day at the office today? Yep...the 'new norm' under the Owe-bama economy.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I'm okay with how my prediction compares to what happened. Closer than you were actually. With the added bonus Owe-bama can't run against a 'GOP congress' since Democrats still control 2/3rds of the Federal Government. Works for me.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
"I wonder why?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#18. To: Mudboy Slim (#14)
#19. To: Jerk Hunt (#10)
#20. To: Badeye (#13)
GO65's a bit off his game today, Mud. I think its the shock of realizing this November is going to be a big time asskicking for the Dems, and the fact Owe- bama is looking more and more to be a one term failure ala Carter.
#21. To: Mudboy Slim, badeye (#11)
#22. To: Mudboy Slim (#9)
All of them except Border Security...MUD
#23. To: Badeye (#7)
The reality is your side is losing the political war by a significant margin, and the outlook for regaining the upper hand for this year, and this election cycle is remote at best.
#24. To: go65 (#21)
#25. To: go65 (#23)
yeah, we proved that by losing PA-13 and NY-23.
#26. To: Badeye (#25)
You wanna brag about PA-13 going to a guy that agrees with Limbaugh, be my guest....(laughing)
#27. To: go65 (#22)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#28. To: go65 (#21)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#29. To: Tic (#19)
fish, Cunt
#30. To: go65 (#22)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#31. To: go65 (#22)
So things like oil platform inspections, the coast guard, EPA, and minerals and mining safety?
#32. To: Mudboy Slim (#28)
Dude, I have NEVER even heard of that so-called TeaPartyLeader until now...yer trying to make mountains outta molehills...all that matters is that we agree that the ObamaNation is a Marxist EEEEEVIL that we MUST STOP...nothing else really matters, GO65, other than defeating the Marxist RAT scumbags like Obama and his ilk...the writing's on the wall, the RATS are being exposed for the anti-American, anti-Capitalist, anti-Liberty BigGuv'ment Statists they've been all along!!
#33. To: gotobamaallthetime65, Mudboy Slim (#32)
Yeah Mudboy, Obama's marxism is what is keeping him from nationalizing BP.
#34. To: go65 (#32)
"...nationalizing BP."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#35. To: e_type_jag, A K A Stone, Dr. Skippy, SammieGee, Rotara, war, buckeroo, Murron, padlock, AuntB (#33)
"Kicking these pathetic morons around is getting to be mundane......"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#36. To: go65 (#32)
"Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#37. To: no gnu taxes (#3)
"Froma Harrop...Butt ugly Marxist blogger. Who gives a rat's ass what she thinks."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#38. To: All (#37)
"BUTT-friggin' MOOOGLY!!"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#39. To: All (#38)
(Edited)
"BUTT-friggin' MOOOGLY!!"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#40. To: Mudboy Slim (#11)
(Edited)
THIS
And THIS
The Fed EXPOSED!!! The FARO RESERVE BANK!!!
#41. To: go65 (#0)
I'm done trying to hack through the tea party thicket of self-contradiction, self-delusion and self- serving positions.
#42. To: go65 (#26)
You wanna brag about PA-13 going to a guy that agrees with Limbaugh, be my guest....(laughing)
#43. To: Coral Snake (#40)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#44. To: e_type_jag (#33)
Let's not remind him maybe the reason obamunist can't nationalize BP might have something to do with the British in the "BP".
#45. To: go65 (#44)
"BP Americas is a subsidiary of BP, headquartered in Houston, TX."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#46. To: GO65 (#36)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#47. To: go65 (#44)
"Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#48. To: Coral Snake (#40)
"It isn't just the RATS it is ALL "PROGRESSIVES" regardless of the party label they wear."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#49. To: go65 (#44)
(Edited)
BP Americas is a subsidiary of BP, headquartered in Houston, TX.
#50. To: go65 (#32)
(To be sung to Don Williams' "Good Ol' Boys Like Me")
With the hist'ry of Dover, Kansas, where both had lived.
Then Granny came in to teach her little man...
"Small guv'ment is best and Ron Reagan is TheMan!!"
Gip talked about honor and Truths we should know...
Country staggered a little when Carter ran the show!!
But that Limbaugh dude, he's fightin' 'gainst Tyranny...Stand fer Liberty!!
I guess we're all gonna be what we're gonna be...
So what'll RATS do with Patriots HOO're Free?!
But we ain't afraid to tread Washington mud..Right's Just Cause!!
Press sells Left's disasters..Truth's RATS' Tragedy!!
Glenn Beck and El Rushbo EXPOSE TYRANNY!!
Righteous fight against BarryO..fight Left's dread...
Sean Hannity hollerin', "Marx is DEAD!!"
And that Limbaugh dude, he's fightin' 'gainst Tyranny...Stand fer Liberty!!
I guess we're all gonna be what we're gonna be...
So what'll RATS do with Patriots HOO're Free?!
Media watched him praise himself just 'cuz RATS support Freaks!!
The RightWing's smarter than most...trash Network News...
Learned to IGNORE DemRATS sellin' socialist views!!
When MUD was eighteen, Lord, I hit the road...
Folks, yer Freedoms oughtta matter...that much I know!!
But that Limbaugh dude, he's fightin' 'gainst Tyranny...Stand fer Liberty!!
I guess we're all gonna be what we're gonna be...
So what do RATS do with Patriots HOO're Free?!
Folks, all we can do is Vote fer Liberty!!
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#51. To: go65 (#20)
#52. To: Badeye, go65 (#51)
yes, you were a bit off your game....
#53. To: Ibluafartsky (#52)
#54. To: Badeye (#51)
We now have the benefit of hindsight being 20/20...yes, you were a bit off your game....lol
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#55. To: Badeye (#53)
Its HILARIOUS noting who claimed what 'then' in comparision to whats actually happened up til 'now'.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#56. To: go65 (#54)
#57. To: go65 (#55)
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