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Title: Is Gulf Disaster Spilling into Obama's Approval Ratings?
Source: 538
URL Source: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010 ... ster-spilling-into-obamas.html
Published: Jun 3, 2010
Author: Nate Silver
Post Date: 2010-06-03 09:47:35 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 2289
Comments: 22

We haven't written very much about the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Needless to say, it's a real tragedy for people in the Gulf Coast states, a region which was hit hard both by the hurricanes of 2005 and by the economic hurricane that has hit the country over the past couple of years. I hope that those of you with means will consider spending some time down there. Without meaning to trivialize the situation, it does bear considering whether the incident is having any impact on Barack Obama's political fortunes.

The hard evidence is mixed. This is Pollster.com's chart of Obama's approval ratings since the oil spill occurred. You can arguably see a point or two's worth of deterioration in his numbers.

Most of this is driven by the two pollsters, Gallup and Rasmussen, that track Presidential approval on an ongoing basis; the other national pollsters have been relatively dormant lately. Rasmussen has not really shown any deterioration in the President's numbers -- but then again, Rasmussen had them being relatively poor to begin with. Obama has had a rough spell in Gallup's polling, on the other hand, which also printed a very poor number for Democrats in their generic ballot polling this week.

Although the trend is not very robust -- it may just be statistical noise -- the notion of some modest downward pressure on Obama's numbers rings true to me. On the one hand, this is a real event, a really horrible event, that real people are noticing -- and not the sort of ginned-up faux scandal that can dominate Washington's coverage during slow periods in the political cycle. Although it's dangerous to relate from personal experience, a lot of people in my social circle have certainly been thinking about the disaster in the Gulf, including what they perceive to be a lackluster response from the White House.

On the other hand, it's not exactly clear what the critique is. The most widespread criticism of Obama is simply that he's expanding government too much, too fast (in other words, that he's too liberal). In the case of the oil spill, however, the prevailing sentiment seems to be that Obama was not quick enough to get the government involved, and was too deferential to BP. I don't mean to oversimplify this -- I recognize that there's a perfectly coherent intellectual position which holds, for instance, that deficits are a huge problem, but also that the White House needed to intervene more forcefully in the Gulf. Nevertheless, the criticisms have been somewhat orthogonal to the usual ones that the Administration receives.

There are, of course, other strands of criticism too -- like Maureen Dowd's refrain that Obama is too aloof and dispassionate, and the argument (mostly from liberals) that contrary to perceptions, the White House is in fact too slack with major corporations. Those adhere into a more coherent anti-Obama narrative when it comes to the Gulf disaster. On the other hand, they are probably not things that people on Main Street are talking or thinking much about.

Mostly I simply think that the disaster is reinforcing people's frustration -- an emotion that has become very widespread within the country, and which crosses most demographic and political boundaries. If that remains the prevailing mood of the country in November, the risks to the incumbent President and his incumbent party are mostly to the downside.

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#1. To: All (#0)

The deepwater horizon rig sank on 4/22. On that date Obama's approval rating according to Rasmussen was 47%.

Today, it's 48%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index _history

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   9:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#0)

Its his watch. Waiting nine days to even mention the oil spill was a political mistake, just as Bush not rebutting the absurd claims in the wake of Katrina was a mistake.

But his poll numbers are dropping due in large part to the economy, and the fact he's going against over 60% of the American people in several areas. Heathcare nationalization, immigration, cap and trade. Add to it he's tripled the deficit in most voters minds...and it is what it is.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes for him to wake up to the reality of a Carter type Presidency if he doesn't move to the center on these issues.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-03   9:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#2)

Its his watch. Waiting nine days to even mention the oil spill was a political mistake, just as Bush not rebutting the absurd claims in the wake of Katrina was a mistake.

But his poll numbers are dropping due in large part to the economy, and the fact he's going against over 60% of the American people in several areas. Heathcare nationalization, immigration, cap and trade. Add to it he's tripled the deficit in most voters minds...and it is what it is.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes for him to wake up to the reality of a Carter type Presidency if he doesn't move to the center on these issues.

The only mistake he made was in expecting that BP could handle the spill, and accepting BP's claims that the leak rate was far lower than it actually was.

To his credit, he's resisted idiotic calls to take over BP, use the military, or take BP out of the equation.

And the bottom line is that despite the hopes of people like yourself, his approval rating has actually gone "up" since the spill.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   9:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#2)

But his poll numbers are dropping due in large part to the economy, and the fact he's going against over 60% of the American people in several areas. Heathcare nationalization, immigration, cap and trade. Add to it he's tripled the deficit in most voters minds...and it is what it is.

You keep saying "his poll numbers are dropping"

Apparently you don't read polls.

Rasmussen Approval

6/1 : 46%

5/1 : 46%

4/1 : 47%

3/1: 47%

2/1: 49%

1/1: 46%

12/1: 47%

11/1: 46%

Given the margin of error, his approval rating has been flat all year long.

That doesn't stop you from repeating the tired old false claim that "his approval ratings are falling" now does it?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   9:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war, fred mertz, miningold, skip intro, brian s (#4)

ping to a badlie destroyed in #4.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   9:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#4)

You have to remember that this was a guy who for years claimed to be correct in calling the unemployment rate even when he was usually off by 2/10's...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-03   9:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#4)

Given the margin of error, his approval rating has been flat all year long.

That doesn't stop you from repeating the tired old false claim that "his approval ratings are falling" now does it?

Psssst. 14 months ago he was over 60%.

Lets see...47%...is less than 60% in most peoples minds.

(laughing)

The irony is its not Republicans, they've never supported him. Owe-bama is bleeding DEMOCRATS and INDEPENDENTS.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-03   10:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#5)

(chuckle)

Please cut and paste a 'lie' of mine, whiner.

And get over yourself, you just got your ass handed to you again.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-03   10:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#7)

Psssst. 14 months ago he was over 60%.

Lets see...47%...is less than 60% in most peoples minds.

Yes, his ratings fell early in his term, but have been consistent for the last seven months now.

Yet for some odd reason you continue to claim "his poll numbers are falling"

I know, I keep making the mistake of expecting your arguments to be supported by data/facts/etc. when none of that matters to you.

Oh, and his approval rating is UP since the gulf spill.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   10:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#8)

Please cut and paste a 'lie' of mine, whiner.

OK:

"But his poll numbers are dropping "

His poll numbers aren't dropping, as the data shows.

they did drop last year, but they aren't "dropping" now.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   10:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#10)

"But his poll numbers are dropping " His poll numbers aren't dropping, as the data shows.

they did drop last year, but they aren't "dropping" now.

I said he went from 60 - 47.

I'll note your assertion is only correct if we choose to accept your version of which way the 'margin of error' swings.

You aren't worth a lie to me, GO65. I know, I know, many of you leftwingnuts desperately need to belive you are worth it too me.

Sorry, you aren't. And you have yet to demonstrate I've ever lied about anything, going back five years in two different forums.

Game, set and match.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-03   10:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#9)

Yet for some odd reason you continue to claim "his poll numbers are falling"

They must be in minus territory by now.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-03   10:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Boofer, go65 (#11) (Edited)

Game set match.

OMG you've been Gamesetmatch'd!!!!!

Hide the children and small animals!!!!!

[snicker]

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-03   10:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#11)

I said he went from 60 - 47.

No, you said above "his poll numbers are dropping"

They haven't dropped in more than six months as the data showed.

Maybe you just don't know the difference between past and present tense?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   10:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war, badeye (#13)

OMG you've been Gamesetmatch'd!!!!!

Hide the children and small animals!!!!!

If a major league umpire can say, "you know what, I was wrong," you would think Badeye could as well.

But despite having the data right in front of him, he still sticks to his false claim that Obama's "poll numbers are dropping"

Badeye, the bottom line is simple, your claim that "his poll numbers are dropping" simply isn't true.

Now be a man and admit it.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   10:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: go65 (#14)

www.gallup.com/poll/13933...Average-Dips-New-Low.aspx

Obama Weekly Approval Average Dips to New Low of 46%Obama's average has been in 46% to 50% range since mid-Februaryby Frank NewportPRINCETON, NJ -- At 46%, President Obama's job approval average for the week ending May 30 is the lowest weekly average of his administration, one point below the previous low of 47% measured in April.

Overall, Obama's weekly job approval average has generally been quite stable in 2010 so far, and has been at or below 50% since mid-February. It fell out of the 60% range in early summer 2009 and first fell below 50% in late November.

Obama Rating Lower Than Most Presidents' Comparables

Obama's end-of-May weekly average is lower than the single-survey ratings for all but two of the nine elected presidents since Eisenhower during May of those presidents' second years in office. Ronald Reagan's approval rating in a May 1982 survey was 45%, one point below Obama's current rating, and Jimmy Carter was at 43% in May 1978. George W. Bush's 77% was the highest such reading, reflecting the continuing rally effect that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Approval Among Independents Reaches New Low

Obama's current 41% weekly approval rating among independents is by one point the lowest of his administration. His 81% rating among Democrats is tied for the lowest so far among that group, while his current 16% among Republicans is actually up slightly from recent weeks.

The current 65-point "polarization gap" between Democrats and Republicans in their approval of Obama is slightly smaller than the average 69-point gap so far this year.

Solid Support Among Blacks; Steady Among Whites

Obama's weekly average among blacks remains very high, at 93%, while his 39% approval rating among non-Hispanic whites is roughly where it has been since March. There is evidence that Obama's approval rating among Hispanics has been slipping; Gallup will analyze his standing among Hispanics in detail (based on larger sample aggregations) in a forthcoming report on Gallup.com.

Bottom Line

President Obama's weekly job approval averages have generally been quite stable this year, with a range extending between 46% and 51% since January. At the same time, these readings represent a significant drop-off in approval compared with the 60%+ ratings he had for the first five months of his administration and his overall average of 57% in 2009.

Obama's current 46% weekly average is slightly below where it has been recently. It can be difficult to identify precisely what causes ups and downs in a president's approval rating. There was a great deal of news focus on the BP oil spill last week, and, although it may be tempting to say the spill is affecting Obama's ratings, it is impossible to say this with certainty.

Last week was also a down week for Democrats in terms of their relative positioning on Gallup's generic ballot. It will be important to monitor both the generic ballot and Obama's approval rating in the weeks ahead to see whether last week represented a short-lived drop in Democrats' fortunes, or the beginning of a trend that could carry forward into the intensive fall election season.

Explore Obama's approval ratings in-depth and compare to past presidents in the Gallup Presidential Job Approval Center.

Survey Methods Results are based on telephone interviews conducted May 24-30, 2010, with a random sample of 3,591 national adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, selected using a random-digit-dial sampling technique.

For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of error is ±2 percentage points.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on landline telephones and cellular phones, with interviews conducted in Spanish for respondents who are primarily Spanish-speaking. Each sample includes a minimum quota of 150 cell phone respondents and 850 landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas among landline respondents for gender within region. Landline respondents are chosen at random within each household on the basis of which member had the most recent birthday.

Samples are weighted on the basis of gender, age, race, Hispanic ethnicity, education, region, adults in the household, cell phone only status, cell phone mostly status and phone lines. Demographic weighting targets are based on the March 2009 Current Population Survey figures for the aged 18 and older non- institutionalized population living in U.S. telephone households. All reported margins of sampling error include the computed design effects for weighting and sample design.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-03   10:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#15)

Now be a man and admit it

(chuckle)

Back at ya.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-03   10:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#16)

Overall, Obama's weekly job approval average has generally been quite stable in 2010 so far, and has been at or below 50% since mid- February.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-03   10:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#16) (Edited)

President Obama's weekly job approval averages have generally been quite stable this year, with a range extending between 46% and 51% since January. At the same time, these readings represent a significant drop-off in approval compared with the 60%+ ratings he had for the first five months of his administration and his overall average of 57% in 2009.

Obama's current 46% weekly average is slightly below where it has been recently. It can be difficult to identify precisely what causes ups and downs in a president's approval rating. There was a great deal of news focus on the BP oil spill last week, and, although it may be tempting to say the spill is affecting Obama's ratings, it is impossible to say this with certainty.

Do you not read what you post?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   10:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#18)

Overall, Obama's weekly job approval average has generally been quite stable in 2010 so far, and has been at or below 50% since mid- February.

He keeps digging deeper and deeper.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-06-03   10:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: go65 (#15)

But despite having the data right in front of him, he still sticks to his false claim that Obama's "poll numbers are dropping"

I just posted a gallup poll confirming what I said.

You still want to stick to this bullshit 'you lied' claim.

Every time you clowns do this, I challenge you to demonstrate a 'lie' I've told ANYONE. Each time, you fail to do so, because I simply don't bother to construct a 'lie' for any of you.

But despite having the data (from the past decade) in front of you, you still stick to your false claim I lie.

Its okay. I understand. Its not like your side has much to brag out these days.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-03   10:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#21) (Edited)

I just posted a gallup poll confirming what I said.

You didn't actually READ the article did you?

Every time you clowns do this, I challenge you to demonstrate a 'lie' I've told ANYONE. Each time, you fail to do so, because I simply don't bother to construct a 'lie' for any of you.

Chuckles...yet oddly...you have the reputation every where of being a....wait for it....liar.

Why is that, Boof?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-03   10:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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