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Title: Yes, International Law Allowed Israel to Board HAMAS War Flotilla
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2266 ... l-to-board-hamas-war-flotilla/
Published: Jun 1, 2010
Author: Debbie Schlussel
Post Date: 2010-06-01 15:54:53 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 1165
Comments: 16

Much of the fallacious defense of the barbarism and violence perpetrated by the terrorist provocation theater crowd on the Gaza “peace” flotilla (with their “peaceful” iron pipes) is based on some false claim that Israel boarded the boats in international waters and is somehow forbidden to do so. Not the case.

The San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea–an international treaty in effect since June 12, 1994–expressly allows Israel’s actions . . . actions which our own Navy, Coast Guard, and Customs and Border Protection officials would probably take as well (board and inspect ships approaching our shores). The following is the applicable section of the treaty, although it’s beyond a doubt that the vessel in question was neither “neutral” nor “civil,” and, frankly, laxer standards than even these–with which Israel complied–apply.

SECTION V : NEUTRAL MERCHANT VESSELS AND CIVIL AIRCRAFT

Neutral merchant vessels

67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:

(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;

(b) engage in belligerent acts on behalf of the enemy;

(c) act as auxiliaries to the enemy s armed forces;

(d) are incorporated into or assist the enemy s intelligence system;

(e) sail under convoy of enemy warships or military aircraft; or

(f) otherwise make an effective contribution to the enemy’s military action, e.g., by carrying military materials, and it is not feasible for the attacking forces to first place passengers and crew in a place of safety.Unless circumstances do not permit, they are to be given a warning, so that they can re-route, off-load, or take other precautions.

Clearly, the convoy–which was in solidarity with HAMAS and done with the cooperation of HAMAS (the HAMAS “naval police” conducted exercises to protect them)–fits all of these subsections. Israel was allowed and justified in boarding the ships. And, as required, Israel gave the required warning, a warning which was ignored.

The San Remo treaty further allows Israel’s response to the barbaric violence of the passengers on the Mavi Marmara ship under its “Armed Conflicts and the Law of Self-Defence” section, as well as various other sections throughout the rest of the treaty.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Yep. Thats why when specific questions have been asked of those whining about Israel's actions here, you don't get an answer.

I'm still waiting for one of them to dispute any of the facts in Charen's column.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-01   15:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Seems pretty straightforward.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-01   16:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Abu el Banat (#2) (Edited)

It's a set of protocols for Naval Warfare for declared/recognized international conflicts.

It is in no way applicable.

SECTION I : SCOPE OF APPLICATION OF THE LAW

1. The parties to an armed conflict at sea are bound by the principles and rules of international humanitarian law from the moment armed force is used.

2. In cases not covered by this document or by international agreements, civilians and combatants remain under the protection and authority of the principles of international law derived from established custom, from the principles of humanity and from the dictates of the public conscience.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-01   17:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Abu el Banat (#2)

NATO disagrees....

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-01   18:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: no gnu taxes (#0) (Edited)

Debbie Schlussel

Bat Mitzvah'd neocon...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-01   18:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#4)

NATO disagrees....

NATO didn't disagree with anything, idiot. They are just calling for a release of prisoners and an investigation.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-06-01   19:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#3)

It's a set of protocols for Naval Warfare for declared/recognized international conflicts.

It is in no way applicable.

Wrong Mr. Mason:

"The Israeli blockade itself against Gaza itself is not illegal, and it's okay for Israeli ships to operate in international waters to enforce it," said Allen Weiner, former State Department lawyer and legal counselor at the American Embassy in the Hague, and now a professor at Stanford Law School.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-06-01   20:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#3)

It is in no way applicable.

Actually it is.

Anyways. Can I change your screen name to "Spinner"?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-01   21:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#8) (Edited)

Actually it is.

Actually it is not.

The Geneva Protocols, of which this is a part, and of whioh we were reminded at the beginning of the WOT, applies only to declared wars and "legal" combatants. This particular section, as I pointed out in the notes, sets the protocols of one party who has declared war on another for high interdiction seas of neutral vessels.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-02   8:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#9)

I'm not so sure it's that important to hold Israel to the letter of the law here. It's not like the other side gives a fuck about the law.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-02   8:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Abu el Banat (#10) (Edited)

Holding them to the letter of the law is one thing, allowing them to play perpetual victim under the color of the law is another.

The fact that even NATO has questioned this action should spur interest in even the most ennuic response...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-02   8:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#11)

Yes, it could be. I haven't looked into this NATO business. I think everybody is spreading bullshit and there is no way we can know what's going on. In the end, the most brutal will win. Not very nice, and probably not right. But it's been that way since the beginning and I'm sure no one that can change things will even try.

What's that called? Defeatist? Dumb?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-02   8:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Abu el Banat (#12)

What's that called? Defeatist? Dumb?

Nope. It was called "my opinion" prior to 9/11.

The most brutal WILL win. I am tired of having "Made In USA" as some sort of stamp of approval for every such act initiated by one party...

Israel is not our ally - they spy on us and barter our defense technology to Iran, India, Pakistan, China and NK - and our policy in the entire mideast is absolutely INSANE.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-02   8:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#13)

Ok, that I get.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-02   8:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Abu el Banat (#14)

Has zip to do with the dynamic...Israel is there and isn't going anywhere...my issue is how that spills over to the US.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-06-02   9:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#15)

Ya. That's fair.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-02   9:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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