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Title: SAY GOODBYE TO RUMMY - WITHIN WEEKS HE WILL RESIGN
Source: THE GIFT TO SEE THE TRUTH
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Published: Jun 4, 2006
Author: TLBSHOW
Post Date: 2006-06-04 10:40:35 by TLBSHOW
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Comments: 91

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#23. To: patriot2112 (#15)

Good to have you on the Forum, patriot, however...

"I have to agree that our position in the world just in the past 2 years has been greatly diminished and our credibility tattered and ruined, thanks to this administration."

I couldn't disagree more...sure, the last five years have been tumultuous, but that is becuz we are doing what needs to be done to confront Islamofascism. Osama bin Laden and his cohorts hated America and what we stand for long before Dubyuh started fighting back. As for our position in the world, America remains a beacon of freedom and hope, and as the fledging democracy in Iraq takes root and the Iraqi people begin to reap the rewards of liberty and self- determination, America's efforts will be credited with making the Mideast a safer, more vibrant region.

"And we must promise that we eschew our tendency to be uncritical of our leaders and our country's policies."

Woah there, patriot, I don't see where being critical of our leaders has ever been that much of a problem in this country...and it certainly ain't stopping a lot of folks from criticizing the heck outta this POTUS.

Regards...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CANAMERICAN (#17)

"That's a reply right out of Free Republic."

There's probably some truth to that...still, your claim that this Administration's actions have caused more damage than any other belies an ignorant naivity about American history, imho.

Regards and welcome to this Forum...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#20)

"He wants back in though."

I don't appreciate being banned anywhere, Mr. Stone, but it comes with the territory, I reckon...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jhoffa_ (#22)

You always say the sweetest things, twinkletoes...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mudboy Slim (#23)

Understood, but as I wrote, it's the last 2 years that have destroyed our credibility. Specifically Abu Ghraib forward.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   1:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: patriot2112 (#27)

"...it's the last 2 years that have destroyed our credibility."

Well, we'll just haveta agree to disagree on that assessment...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mudboy Slim (#28)

Alrighty then.

I'm just basing that on what's occurred. Our high-flying rhetoric has certainly not matched up with the reality that we are torturing people like the Nazis did. :(

This has destroyed our credibility in the past 2 years; the rest of the world is shaking their head at us, as are many thoughtful Americans, liberal and conservative alike.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

Now I shall shut up and drift off into my quiet slumber in the quiet earth.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: patriot2112 (#29)

"...the reality that we are torturing people like the Nazis did."

LOL...this is simply untrue. If you actually believe yer rhetoric then you have a skewed sense of reality...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   2:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Mudboy Slim (#31)

Well, I've seen some pictures of what our troops did, and I have a hard time seeing the difference between that and what the Nazis did. The Abu Ghraib revelations are what set me against the war and my fellow conservatives in the first place. I felt like I was taken by a confidence scam and the that war was not really about liberation at all. :(

Two years along, I think I'm right in my suspicions... :|

On the plus side, it's really liberating to be an independent and not be loyal to either side of the spectrum. :D

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:13:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: patriot2112 (#32)

"I have a hard time seeing the difference between that and what the Nazis did."

Where are the gas chambers? Where are the mass-exterminations? American troops are NOTHING like the Nazis...MUD

BTW..."it's really liberating to be an independent"

I'm an independent libertarian who supports certain GOP individuals (like my Congresscritter Cantor and my Senator George Allen).

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   2:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mudboy Slim (#33)

Gas chambers or not, we have become what we were supposedly there to eradicate.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   4:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

MARK THIS

I hope you're correct. RumDum is an incompetent, arrogant and destructive person. He needs to go ASAP.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-06-05   9:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: patriot2112 (#34)

"...we have become what we were supposedly there to eradicate."

Sorry, but I really don't see it that way...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   9:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#35)

"RumDum is an incompetent, arrogant and destructive person."

Bah humbug!! Rummy is the best SecDef this country has had since Dick Cheney!!

Rumbot regards...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   9:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Mudboy Slim (#37)

Nothing in the record would lead me to agree. Unless looking the other way on torture and losing what should have been an easily-winnable war are considered great accomplishments... :)

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   12:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: patriot2112 (#38)

America has lost no war during Rummy's term as SecDef...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   13:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mudboy Slim (#39)

I think when progress in Iraq is at a standstill and shows zero sign of improving (and no, civilian massacres is not a sign of improvement), it's time to redeploy and admit that we lost. :)

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   22:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Mudboy Slim (#39)

Damn you're stupid..

Democracy was getting old anyway...

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-05   23:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Mudboy Slim (#37)

    Bah humbug!! Rummy is the best SecDef this country has had since Dick Cheney!!

Pol Pot was a better sec def.. Reagan though so!

Geeze, it's so easy to post like Mud-Doope..

It's like just talking bullshit, but doing it online.

Democracy was getting old anyway...

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-05   23:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Mudboy Slim (#39)

You're such a dumbass.. I bet when you walk down the street people say: "Damn! that little boy with the big mouth is a real dumb ass!"

You're a fucking dork.. you should go hide under mommy's skirt..

You don't belong here.. you can't defend yourself.

You're a stooge, a stupe, a dork, a dweeb.. a moron and a lame motherfucker.

What's worse is, you don't even realize it.

You suck, pussy boy..

You can't debate, you can't even think for yourself.

Did I mention your mother is a carpet sweeping dyke who sucks the sweat from a dead mans balls for a nickle?

Night mud.. It's easy being you and posting nothing more than unqualified opinions.

I could get used to this. It's much less work than reason and logic..

If you ever want to actually debate an issue, ping me..

Otherwise.. I'll just continue mocking you.

Democracy was getting old anyway...

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-05   23:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mudboy Slim (#39)

    America has lost no war during Rummy's term as SecDef...MUD

Has so! We lost Vietnam and Iran Contra! So there!

(Logic doesn't matter, I'm the legendary dumbass.. Mudboy Slim!)

Democracy was getting old anyway...

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-05   23:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jhoffa_ (#44)

:|

I didn't want to turn this into a pissing match...but it's clear we lost the war when we became the torturers we claimed we flew 3,000 miles to destroy. :(

Oh what a great country this once was. :(

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   23:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: patriot2112 (#45)

Oh what a great country this once was. :(

Do you think we can get it back?

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-06   0:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#46)

Yes. We got it back after Vietnam and Watergate, after all. We need to usher in an era of thoughtfulness and global reconciliation. We need a real leader, like Reagan.

The hard part is: where is he?

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-06   0:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: patriot2112 (#47)

The hard part is: where is he?

I'm right here. :)

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-06   0:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#48)

Well get out there already! :P

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-06   0:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: patriot2112 (#40)

"...admit that we lost. :)"

Sounds like something the French surrender-monkeys would say...sorry patriot, but it's best that you and yer ilk remain hopelessly outta power...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   8:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jhoffa_ (#41)

Bite me, Leftist dolt...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   8:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: patriot2112 (#45)

"I didn't want to turn this into a pissing match..."

Too late, that's all Hoffa--a typical Leftist KlownPu$$y PUNK--knows how to do...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   8:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#46)

"Do you think we can get it back?"

Of course...America remains the greatest country on this planet by a huge margin and we've still got the Constitution working for the GoodGuys...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   8:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Mudboy Slim (#53)

Of course...America remains the greatest country on this planet by a huge margin and we've still got the Constitution working for the GoodGuys...MUD

Yeah the constitution is still in force. Like the part about all money being gold and silver. We still have a constittuioin. lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-06   9:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#54)

"We still have a constitution. lol"

I'm not joking, Mr. Stone...sure, the SCOTUS has bastardized the meaning of the Commerce Clause to give the Federal Leviathan authority over EVERYTHING that happens in America, but that can be overturned if we get the Right majority in the Supreme Court. I think Alito is a good addition, although the jury's still out on Roberts, imho.

Regards...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   9:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mudboy Slim (#55)

I would hope that the Supreme Court stays as impartial and non-partisan as possible. Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to push my views on others.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-06   11:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Mudboy Slim (#50)

If me and my "ilk" were in power, we wouldn't have lost the war -- because we wouldn't have started it in the first place. Cutting our losses is something we're going to have to do one of these days. If it's "French," so be it. :)

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-06   11:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: patriot2112 (#56)

"I would hope that the Supreme Court stays as impartial and non-partisan as possible."

It's not partisan to recognize that the U.S. Constitution expressly limited the size and scope of the Federal Leviathan and courts have bastardized the meaning of the Commerce Clause to allow the Feds to stick their noses into every nook and cranny of our society.

"I don't want to push my views on others."

LOL...you'll get over that in time...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   11:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Mudboy Slim (#58)

Federal Leviathan and courts have bastardized the meaning of the Commerce Clause to allow the Feds to stick their noses into every nook and cranny of our society.

So you would agree that Congress should not be passing federal legislation to allow gay marriage? :)

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-06   11:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: patriot2112 (#57)

"...we wouldn't have lost the war -- because we wouldn't have started it in the first place."

Fair enuff, you are welcome to your opinion. However, I believe Iraq was the next logical place to go in the WarOnTerror, Congress overwhelmingly supported it, and now that we're there, we cannot afford to cut and run.

And make no mistake, we are winning in Iraq...the Islamofascists are desperate becuz they are not rallying Iraqi support to their cause.

Our soldiers are kickin' butt and takin' names...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   11:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: patriot2112 (#59)

"Congress should not be passing federal legislation to allow gay marriage?"

At present, the debate is about a Constitutional Amendment, which is the way change is supposed to occur, as compared to overriding the Constitution with an activist Judiciary.

Regards...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-06   11:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Mudboy Slim (#60)

now that we're there, we cannot afford to cut and run

So if 72% of the troops wanted out within 9 months, you would have a problem with that?

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-06   11:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Mudboy Slim (#61)

And how is that not invading every nook and cranny of our society?

This is why the judiciary -- and Congress -- should remain as balanced and impartial as possible, so these encroachments on the minority's freedoms can be avoided.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-06   11:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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