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Title: SAY GOODBYE TO RUMMY - WITHIN WEEKS HE WILL RESIGN
Source: THE GIFT TO SEE THE TRUTH
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Published: Jun 4, 2006
Author: TLBSHOW
Post Date: 2006-06-04 10:40:35 by TLBSHOW
Keywords: None
Views: 19329
Comments: 91

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#2. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush have done more damage in 6 years than any administration in U.S. history. Sadly this is no exagerration. The Republican Party should pay the price in the Nov. elections for nominating such an incompetent President.

CANAMERICAN  posted on  2006-06-04   18:47:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CANAMERICAN (#2)

"Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush have done more damage in 6 years than any administration in U.S. history."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sheer, utter nonsense, Newbie...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-04   20:49:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)

While I don't think Rumsfeld is going anywhere, I have to agree that our position in the world just in the past 2 years has been greatly diminished and our credibility tattered and ruined, thanks to this administration.

We need to reconcile with the world community and do some serious apologising to the Iraqi people and to our grandchildren for leaving them a world of fear and destruction, all because our hearts ran too fast. And we must promise that we eschew our tendency to be uncritical of our leaders and our country's policies.

Our new foreign policy going forward (or at least for the next administration, whoever that may be) should be one of thoughtfulness and reconciliation, not of incuriosity, jingoism, speculation and aggression.

-patriot2112

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-04   21:24:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: patriot2112 (#15)

Good to have you on the Forum, patriot, however...

"I have to agree that our position in the world just in the past 2 years has been greatly diminished and our credibility tattered and ruined, thanks to this administration."

I couldn't disagree more...sure, the last five years have been tumultuous, but that is becuz we are doing what needs to be done to confront Islamofascism. Osama bin Laden and his cohorts hated America and what we stand for long before Dubyuh started fighting back. As for our position in the world, America remains a beacon of freedom and hope, and as the fledging democracy in Iraq takes root and the Iraqi people begin to reap the rewards of liberty and self- determination, America's efforts will be credited with making the Mideast a safer, more vibrant region.

"And we must promise that we eschew our tendency to be uncritical of our leaders and our country's policies."

Woah there, patriot, I don't see where being critical of our leaders has ever been that much of a problem in this country...and it certainly ain't stopping a lot of folks from criticizing the heck outta this POTUS.

Regards...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:44:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mudboy Slim (#23)

Understood, but as I wrote, it's the last 2 years that have destroyed our credibility. Specifically Abu Ghraib forward.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   1:57:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: patriot2112 (#27)

"...it's the last 2 years that have destroyed our credibility."

Well, we'll just haveta agree to disagree on that assessment...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:59:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mudboy Slim (#28)

Alrighty then.

I'm just basing that on what's occurred. Our high-flying rhetoric has certainly not matched up with the reality that we are torturing people like the Nazis did. :(

This has destroyed our credibility in the past 2 years; the rest of the world is shaking their head at us, as are many thoughtful Americans, liberal and conservative alike.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:02:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: patriot2112 (#29)

"...the reality that we are torturing people like the Nazis did."

LOL...this is simply untrue. If you actually believe yer rhetoric then you have a skewed sense of reality...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   2:08:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Mudboy Slim (#31)

Well, I've seen some pictures of what our troops did, and I have a hard time seeing the difference between that and what the Nazis did. The Abu Ghraib revelations are what set me against the war and my fellow conservatives in the first place. I felt like I was taken by a confidence scam and the that war was not really about liberation at all. :(

Two years along, I think I'm right in my suspicions... :|

On the plus side, it's really liberating to be an independent and not be loyal to either side of the spectrum. :D

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:13:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: patriot2112 (#32)

"I have a hard time seeing the difference between that and what the Nazis did."

Where are the gas chambers? Where are the mass-exterminations? American troops are NOTHING like the Nazis...MUD

BTW..."it's really liberating to be an independent"

I'm an independent libertarian who supports certain GOP individuals (like my Congresscritter Cantor and my Senator George Allen).

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05 02:17:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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