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Title: SAY GOODBYE TO RUMMY - WITHIN WEEKS HE WILL RESIGN
Source: THE GIFT TO SEE THE TRUTH
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jun 4, 2006
Author: TLBSHOW
Post Date: 2006-06-04 10:40:35 by TLBSHOW
Keywords: None
Views: 19202
Comments: 91

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#1. To: All (#0)

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-06-04   10:51:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush have done more damage in 6 years than any administration in U.S. history. Sadly this is no exagerration. The Republican Party should pay the price in the Nov. elections for nominating such an incompetent President.

CANAMERICAN  posted on  2006-06-04   18:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CANAMERICAN (#2)

Welcome to the site CANAMERICAN. I like the screen name. Hope you enjoy it here. You don't have to be afraid to voice your true opinions on this site.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-04   18:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Thanks...As a U.S. Citizen living in Canada it sickens me to see what is happening to America. The Bush administration and its propaganda minister Limbaugh convey a sense of arrogance like I've never seen. Collectively they are a bunch of phonies who had the gall to think they could handle the Presidency.

CANAMERICAN  posted on  2006-06-04   18:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CANAMERICAN (#4)

I voted for Bush in 2000. Used to like Limbaugh. I've come to despise them. So are you a traditional conservative?

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-04   19:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

We can only hope.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-04   19:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: patriot2112 (#6)

Welcome aboart patriot. I've upgraded you to full posting privelages.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-04   19:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#5)

I'm not a traditional conservative. To be honest I don't know what I am. On the one hand i can say that i think that the people who protested the Vietnam war had alot more balls than the architects of that war while on the other hand I think that leftist liberals have morally bankrupted America by ridiculing and defying the traditional values that define America.

CANAMERICAN  posted on  2006-06-04   19:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CANAMERICAN (#8)

On the one hand i can say that i think that the people who protested the Vietnam war had alot more balls than the architects of that war while on the other hand I think that leftist liberals have morally bankrupted America by ridiculing and defying the traditional values that define America.

I can agree with that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-04   19:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#1)

Rumsfeld visits Vietnam to boost military ties

Rumsfeld said another US Navy ship will visit Vietnam this summer. Under the Pentagon’s International Military Education and Training (IMET) programme, Vietnamese pilots will go to the United States for English-language training. He said the United States was not seeking access to military facilities in Vietnam.

“We do have an evolving military-to-military relationship. Vietnam is an important country and they’re a country that we value our relationship with, but it certainly isn’t anything that involves military basing,” he told reporters in Singapore. Vietnam, a member of the 10-country Association of Southeast Asian Nations, will play host to US President George W Bush at this year’s annual summit of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum, a key economic grouping.

Last week, US and Vietnamese officials signed a pact that paves the way for Hanoi to join the World Trade Organisation by year-end. The deal requires Vietnam to cut tariffs and other barriers on a host of American goods and services.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C06%5C05%5Cstory_5-6- 2006_pg4_4

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-06-04   20:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

"MARK THIS..."

Rummy ain't going anywhere until after the mid-term elections...can you even imagine how screwed up the confirmation process would be for Rummy's successor? Naww, Dubyuh's not gonna want to go thru that in the middle of an election season...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-04   20:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CANAMERICAN (#2)

"Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush have done more damage in 6 years than any administration in U.S. history."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sheer, utter nonsense, Newbie...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-04   20:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Thanks.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-04   21:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: patriot2112 (#13)

Your welcome.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-04   21:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)

While I don't think Rumsfeld is going anywhere, I have to agree that our position in the world just in the past 2 years has been greatly diminished and our credibility tattered and ruined, thanks to this administration.

We need to reconcile with the world community and do some serious apologising to the Iraqi people and to our grandchildren for leaving them a world of fear and destruction, all because our hearts ran too fast. And we must promise that we eschew our tendency to be uncritical of our leaders and our country's policies.

Our new foreign policy going forward (or at least for the next administration, whoever that may be) should be one of thoughtfulness and reconciliation, not of incuriosity, jingoism, speculation and aggression.

-patriot2112

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-04   21:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Connecticut Tartar (#14)

You are upgraded to full posting privelages as well. Welcome aboard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-04   21:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sheer, utter nonsense, Newbie...MUD

That's a reply right out of Free Republic. What a bunch of immature crybabies over there. I consider it an honor to have been banned from that site.

CANAMERICAN  posted on  2006-06-04   21:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: CANAMERICAN (#17)

FR is a very nationalistic forum, where its people regularly mistake jingoism and blind militarism for patriotism.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-04   22:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: patriot2112 (#15)

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/04/haditha/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Biden told NBC's "Meet the Press" that the accountability for Haditha and other alleged atrocities in Iraq should go all the way up to Rumsfeld. (Watch Rumsfeld's critics fueled by Haditha incident -- 2:17)

"We can't get rid of the president; he's there for two-and-a-half more years," Biden said. "There is a system of accountability. ... When you make serious mistakes, you step forward and you acknowledge them and you walk away.

"Presidents can't and shouldn't do that. Secretaries of defense can and should."

Biden said Rumsfeld "should be be gone; he shouldn't be in his office tomorrow morning."

A frequent critic of the Bush administration's policy in Iraq, Biden has previously called for Rumsfeld's resignation.

Retired Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who led the 1st Infantry Division in northern Iraq in 2004-2005, on Sunday also called for "a secretary of defense whose instinct and judgment we all trust."

Batiste told CNN's "Late Edition" he sees "a direct link between Haditha, the national embarrassment of Abu Ghraib, going on four years now of uncontrollable chaos in Iraq, with the bad judgment, poor decisions of our secretary of defense back in late 2003 and 2004."

"We went in under-resourced, overcommitted. And the strain on the force is unbelievable," Batiste said.

Batiste was one of several retired generals to publicly call for Rumsfeld's resignation in recent months. Responding to their calls, President Bush in April defended Rumsfeld, saying he was doing "a fine job." (Full story)

On Sunday, a Pentagon spokesman could not be reached for comment

TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-06-04   23:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: CANAMERICAN, mudboy slim (#17)

That's a reply right out of Free Republic. What a bunch of immature crybabies over there. I consider it an honor to have been banned from that site.

He's a banned freeper too. He wants back in though. lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-05   0:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sheer, utter nonsense, Newbie...MUD

Wow, another unqualified one liner from the Vaginator.. What a surprise!

    Right Since Birth!!

And a waste of genetic material since conception.

Democracy was getting old anyway...

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-05   1:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: CANAMERICAN (#17)

    That's a reply right out of Free Republic.

Ironic you'd mention this.

Mud got banned from FR, but only because he's an annoying, loud mouthed, know nothing.

Democracy was getting old anyway...

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-05   1:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: patriot2112 (#15)

Good to have you on the Forum, patriot, however...

"I have to agree that our position in the world just in the past 2 years has been greatly diminished and our credibility tattered and ruined, thanks to this administration."

I couldn't disagree more...sure, the last five years have been tumultuous, but that is becuz we are doing what needs to be done to confront Islamofascism. Osama bin Laden and his cohorts hated America and what we stand for long before Dubyuh started fighting back. As for our position in the world, America remains a beacon of freedom and hope, and as the fledging democracy in Iraq takes root and the Iraqi people begin to reap the rewards of liberty and self- determination, America's efforts will be credited with making the Mideast a safer, more vibrant region.

"And we must promise that we eschew our tendency to be uncritical of our leaders and our country's policies."

Woah there, patriot, I don't see where being critical of our leaders has ever been that much of a problem in this country...and it certainly ain't stopping a lot of folks from criticizing the heck outta this POTUS.

Regards...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CANAMERICAN (#17)

"That's a reply right out of Free Republic."

There's probably some truth to that...still, your claim that this Administration's actions have caused more damage than any other belies an ignorant naivity about American history, imho.

Regards and welcome to this Forum...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#20)

"He wants back in though."

I don't appreciate being banned anywhere, Mr. Stone, but it comes with the territory, I reckon...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jhoffa_ (#22)

You always say the sweetest things, twinkletoes...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mudboy Slim (#23)

Understood, but as I wrote, it's the last 2 years that have destroyed our credibility. Specifically Abu Ghraib forward.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   1:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: patriot2112 (#27)

"...it's the last 2 years that have destroyed our credibility."

Well, we'll just haveta agree to disagree on that assessment...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   1:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mudboy Slim (#28)

Alrighty then.

I'm just basing that on what's occurred. Our high-flying rhetoric has certainly not matched up with the reality that we are torturing people like the Nazis did. :(

This has destroyed our credibility in the past 2 years; the rest of the world is shaking their head at us, as are many thoughtful Americans, liberal and conservative alike.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

Now I shall shut up and drift off into my quiet slumber in the quiet earth.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: patriot2112 (#29)

"...the reality that we are torturing people like the Nazis did."

LOL...this is simply untrue. If you actually believe yer rhetoric then you have a skewed sense of reality...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   2:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Mudboy Slim (#31)

Well, I've seen some pictures of what our troops did, and I have a hard time seeing the difference between that and what the Nazis did. The Abu Ghraib revelations are what set me against the war and my fellow conservatives in the first place. I felt like I was taken by a confidence scam and the that war was not really about liberation at all. :(

Two years along, I think I'm right in my suspicions... :|

On the plus side, it's really liberating to be an independent and not be loyal to either side of the spectrum. :D

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   2:13:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: patriot2112 (#32)

"I have a hard time seeing the difference between that and what the Nazis did."

Where are the gas chambers? Where are the mass-exterminations? American troops are NOTHING like the Nazis...MUD

BTW..."it's really liberating to be an independent"

I'm an independent libertarian who supports certain GOP individuals (like my Congresscritter Cantor and my Senator George Allen).

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   2:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mudboy Slim (#33)

Gas chambers or not, we have become what we were supposedly there to eradicate.

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   4:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TLBSHOW (#0)

MARK THIS

I hope you're correct. RumDum is an incompetent, arrogant and destructive person. He needs to go ASAP.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-06-05   9:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: patriot2112 (#34)

"...we have become what we were supposedly there to eradicate."

Sorry, but I really don't see it that way...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   9:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#35)

"RumDum is an incompetent, arrogant and destructive person."

Bah humbug!! Rummy is the best SecDef this country has had since Dick Cheney!!

Rumbot regards...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   9:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Mudboy Slim (#37)

Nothing in the record would lead me to agree. Unless looking the other way on torture and losing what should have been an easily-winnable war are considered great accomplishments... :)

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   12:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: patriot2112 (#38)

America has lost no war during Rummy's term as SecDef...MUD

Right Since Birth!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-05   13:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mudboy Slim (#39)

I think when progress in Iraq is at a standstill and shows zero sign of improving (and no, civilian massacres is not a sign of improvement), it's time to redeploy and admit that we lost. :)

patriot2112  posted on  2006-06-05   22:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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