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Title: ‘Death panels’ were an overblown claim – until now
Source: The Daily Caller
URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2010/05/27/d ... -an-overblown-claim-until-now/
Published: May 27, 2010
Author: Michael Tanner
Post Date: 2010-05-27 10:22:11 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 1143
Comments: 13

‘Death panels’ were an overblown claim – until now By Michael Tanner | Published: 05/27/10 at 12:00 AM | Updated: 05/27/10 at 8:48 AM

During the debate over ObamaCare, the bill’s opponents were excoriated for talk of rationing and “death panels.” And in fairness, with a few minor exceptions governing Medicare reimbursements, the law does not directly ration care or allow the government to dictate how doctors practice medicine.

But if President Obama wanted to keep a lid on that particular controversy, he just selected about the worst possible nominee for director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the office that oversees government health care programs. Obama’s pick, Dr. Donald Berwick, is an outspoken admirer of the British National Health Service and its rationing arm, the National Institute for Clinical Effectiveness (NICE).

“I am romantic about the National Health Service. I love it,” Berwick said during a 2008 speech to British physicians, going on to call it “generous, hopeful, confident, joyous, and just.” He compared the wonders of British health care to a U.S. system that he described as trapped in “the darkness of private enterprise.”

Berwick was referring to a British health care system where 750,000 patients are awaiting admission to NHS hospitals. The government’s official target for diagnostic testing was a wait of no more than 18 weeks by 2008. The reality doesn’t come close. The latest estimates suggest that for most specialties, only 30 to 50 percent of patients are treated within 18 weeks. For trauma and orthopedics patients, the figure is only 20 percent.

Overall, more than half of British patients wait more than 18 weeks for care. Every year, 50,000 surgeries are canceled because patients become too sick on the waiting list to proceed.

The one thing the NHS is good at is saving money. After all, it is far cheaper to let the sick die than to provide care.

At the forefront of this cost-based rationing is NICE. It acts as a comparative-effectiveness tool for NHS, comparing various treatments and determining whether the benefits the patient receives, such as prolonged life, are cost-efficient for the government.

NICE, however, is not simply a government agency that helps bureaucrats decide if one treatment is better than another. With the creation of NICE, the U.K. government has effectively put a dollar amount to how much a citizen’s life is worth. To be exact, each year of added life is worth approximately $44,305 (£30,000). Of course, this is a general rule and, as NICE chairman Michael Rawlins points out, the agency has sometimes approved treatments costing as much as $70,887 (£48,000) per year of extended life.

To Dr. Berwick , this is exactly how it should be. “NICE is not just a national treasure,” he says, “it is a global treasure.”

And, Dr. Berwick wants to bring NICE-style rationing to this country. “It’s not a question of whether we will ration care,” he said in a magazine interview for Biotechnology Healthcare, “It is whether we will ration with our eyes open.”

Dr. Berwick, a professor of health policy at Harvard, actually favors a single-payer system for the U.S. But what he considers absolutely essential to health care reform is government control over health care spending, not just for government programs but by patients themselves. “The hallmarks of proper financial management in a system,” he wrote, “are government policies, purchasing contracts, or market mechanisms that lead to a cap on total spending, with strictly limited year-on-year growth targets.” That way “rational collective action overrid[es] individual self-interest.”

Recent reports suggest that the recently passed health care bill will be far more expensive than originally projected. As it becomes apparent that that ObamaCare is unsustainable, the calls for controlling its costs through rationing will grow louder. With Donald Berwick running the government’s health care efforts, those voices will have a ready ear.

Maybe those worries about death panels weren’t so crazy after all

Read more: dailycaller.com/2010/05/2...-until-now/#ixzz0p8x85aoG

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#1. To: Badeye (#0)

How often is this bullshit about death panels going to be ressurrected?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-27   10:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#1)

How often is this bullshit about death panels going to be ressurrected?

Somehow they still don't understand that their supporters with the crude, nasty remarks (Okay here's the qualifier they will demand like good little PCers that they are...I don't mean all) along with blatant lies and propaganda won't win them elections. Surely they didn't just fall off that turnip truck yesterday but you would never know it.

I'm waiting for the vaunted GOP to either get rid of or denounce these types and do a total remodel, and I'll sure I'll still be waiting for that in 2012.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-27   10:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#0)

The government’s official target for diagnostic testing was a wait of no more than 18 weeks by 2008.

Eighteen weeks sounds pretty good to me, I've been waiting 36 weeks.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-27   10:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#3)

Its your health. If you're okay with it, fine by me.

Whats facinating about this is those screeching about 'death panels' being mentioned are the exact same ones that catagorically stated 1)Health Insurance Premiums would not go up (they have)...2) It will cost far less than 1 Trillion Dollars (the amount is much much higher)...3)Business's would increase healthcare benefits (they are dropping them in record numbers)...4) This will create jobs (the exact opposite is happening).

Every other 'claim' by the nationalize healthcare proponents has been shown to have been false. Every one of them.

But they are correct about death panels....until they aren't.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   10:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye (#4) (Edited)

1) No one said premiums would not go up. What was said is that the rate of increase would be slowed significantly.

2) No one knows what it has cost or will cost - even those claiming that it will cost more. Thus the word "estimate".

3) Bullshit.

4) Health care jobs continue to increase.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-27   10:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#0)

Death panels’ were an overblown claim – until now

Since St Sarah was one of those originally making the claims it's nice to know what they really think of her.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-27   11:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#4)

Every other 'claim' by the nationalize healthcare proponents has been shown to have been false. Every one of them.

The claim that we have nationalized health care is false.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-27   11:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#6)

She's been found to be correct on everything else, and those 'death panels' are in fact real.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   11:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#7)

The claim that we have nationalized health care is false.

(laughing)

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   11:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#8)

She's been found to be correct on everything else, and those 'death panels' are in fact real.

We have had Utilization Review since the eighties.

Your author says they were originally overblown.... take it up with him.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-27   11:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#8)

She's been found to be correct on everything else, and those 'death panels' are in fact real.

Correct about BP PAC money going to Obama?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-27   11:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mininggold (#10)

We have had Utilization Review since the eighties.

Your author says they were originally overblown.... take it up with him.

I have no reason to, they exist, if not under that more accurate name, as the author acknowledges.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   11:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

Stick to the topic freddie, I know you cranks like to switch topics when uncomfortable.

And I just laugh the assertion BP doesn't own Owe-bama.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   11:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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