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Bush Wars Title: Answering Our Troops, “Why Did You Send Us To War Over A Lie?” It Is Starting, America Is Being Called To Account Phony War, Forgotten Troops And Abused Veterans By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor After 9/11 it started. We raced into Afghanistan looking for terrorist groups that never existed and a terrorist mastermind who had nothing to do with an attack on America. We knew we were lying to our troops then, we know it now and we simply cant stop, we love lying so much. Osama bin Laden, isolated in Afghanistan with a few supporters fled into the hills and died in days. There was never a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan, no Al Qaeda, a group honest experts claim never existed and still may not, and the real Osama bin Laden, the bin Laden that said Israel was responsible for 9/11, has been dead since December 2001. Our troops and veterans have to either watch Fox news hide the facts from them or learn of the corruption tied to the 9/11 investigation, the Building 7 scandal, a scandal free of conspiracy theory, and the very real dancing Israelis, a Mossad film squad positioned to record the planes hitting the twin towers, notified well in advance, an Israel team arrested by New York police as terrorists and released and rushed back to Israel by friends in the Bush administration before the FBI could question them. We can keep trying to lie to our soldiers about this and about Iraq, how we sent them to war, killed 5000 and wounded tens of thousands, PTSD for hundreds of thousands more and did it all based on intelligence reports that were treason, not just wrong, not just lies, but a plan to deceive our own government, an act of war against the United States by some of her own people, people who sent us to war because of their mixed loyalties to a foreign country, loyalties that negated their oaths to America. Now the questions are flooding in, phone, email, coming in to those of us who are supposed to know. Does anyone want to tell a wounded soldier he was duped by a pack of thieves and cowards who made billions of dollars on his suffering? Do we want to keep up the Fox News cover stories about the evils of Islam and the rows of tanks and thousands of missiles threatening poor defenseless Israel? We are talking to troops who have spent years overseas, serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, troops who know dozens, even hundreds of Muslims. These are troops that were told of a billion ignorant and hateful monsters, the Muslim hoards of subhumans spending their days dreaming of roasting Israeli school children, stories continually repeated on the Armed Forces Network, Pentagon Channel and Fox News. Now these troops are in Iraq, Afghanistan or home. They lived and worked with Muslims, some for years, built friendships and fought wars filled with confusion and contradiction. Some of these troops were in our military and, for the first time, tens of thousands of Americans faced combat as civilian contractors, many of whom gave their lives, though better paid, often heroically. Not all contractors were Blackwater killers, far from it. The vast majority of Americans serving as civilians worked to provide security for their families and now live with the stain of a few bad apples run by companies with ties to American right wing political extremists, companies whose aims were fraud, drug running, religious war and deception. Our troops have seen it all. 33 died, electrocuted by Halliburton barracks. They drank gallons of sewage polluted water, another Halliburton gift. Thousands of tons of high explosives, left unguarded and unsecured after the invasion of Iraq were turned against our troops when poor planning and a corrupt puppet government led to massive resistance and civil war. Thousands of Americans died, tens of thousands were wounded as wrong everything, tactics, vehicle protection, personal armor, intelligence and to be truthful, a totally wrong war took a massive toll. We went from Mission Accomplished to mission unending, a war that has even outlived our previous record holder, Vietnam. VIETNAM REDEUX Vietnam didnt invent the forgotten soldier, Korea did that. It did invent the throwaway army however, troops sent to war without purpose, sent to war simply out of tantrum politics and war profiteering. We poisoned an entire army in Vietnam with agent orange, numbers of dead, dying and sick reaching unimaginable levels, unimaginable and unreportable. Of between 2.4 and 2.9 million troops serving in the conflict, we have been told only 711,000 survive though the average age of a veteran is barely 60 years old. The abuse began early on, now fictionalized by draft dodgers like Sylvester Stallone and his Rambo character, I came home and there they were in the airports, spittin. Thus began the myth of the airport spitter. Anyone who flew back in the 1960s and 70s, imagine an airport. Did anyone see hippies? Did they park short term or long term? I can picture it now. Hey, theres a bunch of Special Forces pussies, lets go spit on them. Ill bet they cry like babies. People who grew up believing this buy in on 9/11 fairly tales just as easily. Vietnam was, in ways, a perfect war, perfect if you are a follower of Marine General Smedley Butler. Vietnam was a racket, pure and simple, just like Iraq and Afghanistan. Tens of thousands died in Vietnam, fed garbage, armed with junk, dressed in rags, no fire support, no medical care, sick and wounded left in the field like out of the middle ages. This is the truth of Vietnam. More Marines ended up dying in Vietnam than World War 2 but dont expect Stephen Spielberg and Tom Hanks to do a documentary. America is still too busy pushing the remaining, the surviving Vietnam vets away, still denying them decent health care, still shredding their files and still spitting, not in airports but where it counts, where it counted for years. America, middle and upper class America hated Vietnam vets, even at the height of the war. Few but the poor served. Look at congress. So few Vietnam combat veterans served during the Bush administration that the word chickenhawk was coined and lists produced that boggle the mind. How could so many cowards lead a nation to war? Thus we return to Iraq, a war started by draft dodgers, shirkers, yellow bellies and war profiteers. TOO HIGH A PRICE, AMERICA TURNS ITS BACK Every day, soldiers are thrown out of the military because they are unfit. Many of them, an amazing coincidence, are only months from retirement. Many of them are sick, combat vets who have served multiple deployments, sent to fight though medicated to nearly zombie levels by the cocktails of anti-psychotic medications that allow the burned out and PTSD ridden to be reprocessed and sent back to war. How many have committed suicide? The number 2 years ago was over 14,000. We gave up counting, as we usually do. How many have filed for disability compensation, just the recent vets only? 400,000+ Nearly 20% of our troops in Afghanistan are on medications for psychiatric disorders that could easily qualify them for immediate medical retirement and full disability compensation. With a military and veterans service that seek treatments, spending hundreds of millions, why is the primary treatment for troops with PTSD more combat? Then, when the troops finally break, it wasnt the combat at all, it was a personality disorder or as the military loves to call it, a preexisting condition. Break under half a dozen combat deployments, many while medically unfit and soldiers face bad conduct discharges, a lifetime of dishonor, loss of retirement, medical treatment and benefits, not just for them but their families. This is what our troops know, what they see every day and what thousands of them have suffered. How do we explain it to them? Dont be surprised if their questions arent asked politely.
Poster Comment: This should really be filled under Bush-Obama wars, but since Bush instigated it I'm giving the credit to him.
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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)
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Great question. Ask Junior and Cheney. Oh, they won't answer... What a surprise.
Why don't people understand this? This is crazy.
Gordon Duff was in Vietnam.
----------------------------------------------------------- Well, hell, if your going to 'mix and match' wars...why not throw in Gulf War 1, Vietnam, Korea, and WWII and WWI? Sheesh.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
The length of these current wars is the point, pinhead. Sheesh.
I cited your own words, pinhead. You compared Iraq and Afghanistan directly, using things that occured years apart. Sorry if you don't like that being pointed out, pinhead...(chuckle)
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
Indeed. Designed to distract from the 'here and now'.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
The words I cited were copied from the article and then you copied them again from my reply. Liar. They are not my own words. I forgot that you rarely read the lead articles....(chuckle)
How long did it take before Vietnam became Nixon's war?
Huh? Iraq was only a "battle" in the "War on Terror", remember? Iraq was just another front against Al Qaeda...remember? There's no mixing and matching...you all told us it was the same war...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
One year* when the Cambodia shit hit the fan.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
I once met a man with one shoe...I asked him..."Where's your other shoe?" He couldn't talk with his mouth full.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
(laughing)
And I forgot you have sex with your horse....lol
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
Oh, about six months. Hell, today the 'usual suspects' that claim things like 'Oswald was a rightwinger!' state we got into the Vietnam War because of EISENHOWER, not Jack Kennedy....(eyes rolling) They don't even acknowledge LBJ, a accidental President if ever there was one, lied about the Gulf of Tonkin so he could escalate that insane mistake began by Kennedy.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
Since he lays out a lot of numbers, it should be easy for you to disprove them. Go at it.
He was and you've offered nothing to the contrary that hasn't been debunked. we got into the Vietnam War because of EISENHOWER We did...SEATO. Had Nixon been elected in 1960, our battle field commitment to Viet Nam would have made Johnson's buildup look glacial in comparison. They don't even acknowledge LBJ, a accidental President if ever there was one, Not only was there more than one "accidental [POTUS]" there were several...John Tyler, Andrew Johnson, Teddy Roosevelt, Cal Coolidge, HST and Gerry Ford...to name some of them... lied about the Gulf of Tonkin You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who believes that LBJ a) wasn't a polecat and b) didn't manuever us through lies and deceit into escalating a commitment the ending of which Kennedy had already set in motion. But you, like LBJ, have no problem pretending in your separate reality.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
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