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Title: Sarah Palin Takes Stand on Immigration, Palin Enters Immigration Debate, After Endorsing Arizona Illegal Immigration Law
Source: abcnews
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sara ... -arizona-law/story?id=10707136
Published: May 22, 2010
Author: By KRISTINA WONG
Post Date: 2010-05-22 16:20:34 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Palin, Arizona, SB1070
Views: 32456
Comments: 111

Sarah Palin had been heretofore fairly silent on the issue of immigration. This week for the first time, however, she has been outspoken, making at least five recent public statements on the issue and coming out in full support of Arizona's controversial new immigration law.

She even encouraged other states to adopt similar laws.

"I think every other state on the border should emulate what Arizona has done," she said on FOX News Wednesday night. "Jan Brewer, the governor of Arizona, has taken upon herself, her state government, to do what the feds should have been doing all along and say, 'No, we're going to secure this border.'

"From there, then, once that is taken care of, we can deal with those who are here illegally and we can figure out all that immigration reform that needs to take place. Yes, other states should do what Arizona is doing," she said.

She posted on her Facebook page Tuesday about immigration for the second time in a week.

"Arizonans have the courage to do what the Obama administration has failed to do in its first year and a half in office, namely secure our border and enforce our federal laws," she wrote. "And as a result, Arizonans have been subjected to a campaign of baseless accusations by the same people who freely admit they haven't a clue about what they're actually campaigning against."

A Palin spokesperson declined to comment for this story.

The former Alaska governor sparked controversy Saturday with her comments at a campaign event for Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

"Now this state has enacted a law -- it mirrors the federal law -- which allows police to ask those they otherwise have stopped to provide a driver's license or other verification of legal presence. I think for most American people the reaction to this would be, 'Why haven't the police already been doing that?'" Palin asked the crowd.

She encouraged the Highland Park High School girls basketball team the week before to "go rogue" after school administrators canceled its participation in an Arizona tournament, citing safety concerns and the state's new immigration law.

She later posted on Facebook: "These boycotts of Arizona will not help the state or lead to positive change. Economic and political boycotts of our nation's 48th state will hurt all Arizonans, including all members of the Hispanic community."

Palin's back-to-back flurry of comments marked her public entry into an issue that had not previously been a prominent part of her conservative mix of issues, which included energy, fiscal conservatism and small government.

"She had actually been fairly positive about immigration reform as a vice presidential candidate," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voices, a liberal-leaning immigration reform group that immediately criticized Palin.

"When she decided to embrace the Arizona show-me-your-papers law, we thought it justified criticizing her for embracing a law that institutionalized racial and ethnic discrimination," Sharry said.

A Palin Change of Heart?

As a vice-presidential candidate, Palin told Spanish-language television network Univision during an interview Oct. 26, 2008, "There is no way that in the U.S. we would roundup every illegal immigrant ... there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants. ... Not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue."

Her GOP presidential running mate, Sen. John McCain, had taken a similar stance, arguing for a comprehensive immigration plan, a multi-faceted approach that includes border patrol, a crackdown on illegal hiring, legalizing immigrants already in the United States and creating a more flexible immigration system. The Arizona law and its more stringent provisions were not part of the national debate at the time.

But Palin came out last Saturday in clear support of Arizona's new law, which would be the most robust in the nation in terms of targeting people suspected of being illegal immigrants. The law is set to take effect July 29, barring any successful legal challenges.

Sharry said Palin's comments risk alienating Latino voters, the fastest-growing group of voters, from the Republican Party. Latino voter registration grew 54 percent and turnout grew 64 percent from 2000 to 2008, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Republican President George W. Bush and Republican political strategist Karl Rove had made inroads with Latinos in 2000 and 2004 in key states such as Florida, Sharry said, where Latino voters backed Bush over Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts by a 12 point margin in 2004.

But, Sharry said, "The Republican party has now become branded among Latino immigrants as the 'party that hates us.'"

According to a report by America's Voices, Latinos will make a difference in 42 races in 12 states in the upcoming 2010 mid-term gubernatorial, Senate and House races: Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.

"Someone like Sarah Palin or John McCain or Mitt Romney should stand up and say, 'Stop the madness, stop the political suicide,'" Sharry said.

Alfonso Aguilar, executive director for the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, said liberals were trying to use the Arizona law to unfairly attack Republicans, when it's really Democrats who have failed to act on immigration laws.

"They know Latinos are mad at them [Democrats], so they're trying to use Arizona to drive a wedge, to say, 'You know what, Republicans don't like Latinos," Aguilar said. "Sadly, they know that the reason why we have the law in Arizona is because Barack Obama has not dealt with immigration as he said he would during the campaign. He has absolutely failed the Latino community."

Aguilar said that although he doesn't support the law, reaction to it has been exaggerated.

"I'm not a fan of Arizona law, but to say that the bill will lead to systematic and mass discrimination is an outright lie," he said.

He added that attempts to pit Latinos against Republicans would backfire within the Latino community.

"Latinos don't like to be treated in a condescending way," he said. "They're not going to respond to those tactics, and I think it's going to backfire."

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#10. To: WhiteSands (#0)

This week for the first time, however, she has been outspoken, making at least five recent public statements on the issue and coming out in full support of Arizona's controversial new immigration law.

I guess this means she was for illegal immigrants before she was against them.

Nobody can say she isn't decisive. She makes up her mind as quickly as her RINO advisers tell her what to think,and doesn't waiver until it is politically expedient to do so.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-23   11:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#10)

Her position is not inconsistent. One can believe the immigration laws should be enforced yet still think there should be a reasonable path to citizenship.

Ask Lou Dobbs.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-23   11:12:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: no gnu taxes (#11)

Her position is not inconsistent.

Yes,it is. Unless you consider being John McLunatic's personal parrot is being consistent.

One can believe the immigration laws should be enforced yet still think there should be a reasonable path to citizenship.

Close,but no cigar. My question to you is are you purposely muddying the water by making the absurd claim that illegal aliens should be put on any path other than one heading back across the border,or is it that you don't understand what the word "reasonable" means?

There is nothing reasonable about rewarding somebody that broke out laws to come here by making them citizens.

"REASONABLE" immigration is where we only allow people into the country who we think will become Americans and contribute to the greatness of America.

We don't need any more stinking anchor babies!

Ask Lou Dobbs.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-23   18:55:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#15)

. My question to you is are you purposely muddying the water by making the absurd claim that illegal aliens should be put on any path other than one heading back across the border

Scenario: A boy comes to the US illegally with his family when he is 15. He goes on to finish school here and works and pays taxes for 20 years. At that time, it is discovered he is not documented. Your position is that he should be sent back to a Country that he knows nothing because there is no possible position other than being a total hardass on the illegal immigrant issue?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-24   8:34:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes (#16)

Scenario: A boy comes to the US illegally with his family when he is 15. He goes on to finish school here and works and pays taxes for 20 years. At that time, it is discovered he is not documented.

And how is this MY problem? Seems to me he should take it up with his parents.

Your position is that he should be sent back to a Country that he knows nothing because there is no possible position other than being a total hardass on the illegal immigrant issue?

No,my position is he is here illegally,and we should treat him the same way we treat anybody else that is here illegally. Namely,we should deport his ass.

And don't get all teary-eyed on my over him not knowing anything about Mexico. Chances are the SOB speaks better Spanish than he does English,anyhow. Let him take his ass back home and apply for a visa if he wants to come back.

BTW,what do you think the response of the Mexican government would be to a American citizen in the same position as your mythical 15 year old? They would put him in prison and then deport him.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-24   18:54:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#17)

Your position is that he should be sent back to a Country that he knows nothing because there is no possible position other than being a total hardass on the illegal immigrant issue?

No,my position is he is here illegally,and we should treat him the same way we treat anybody else that is here illegally. Namely,we should deport his ass.

Well, that's just peachy. He came illegally so just deport him because he got here illegally. Never mind that just about "crime" has a statute of limitations. No, just lump him in with all the genuine illegal criminals. Your rhetoric is just that. In fact, if you actually knew someone in the position I stated, I don't think you are such an asshole that you would recommend the position you stated.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-24   20:13:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: no gnu taxes (#19)

He came illegally so just deport him because he got here illegally.

Duhhhh!

Never mind that just about "crime" has a statute of limitations.

BullBarrack! Guess what,Buckwheat. He is COMMITTING A NEW CRIME EVERY DAY HE IS HERE ILLEGALLY.

Even if it is it your understanding that the statute of limitations is a half-hour,1 atomic second after that half-hour expires,he or she just committed the same crime again.

No, just lump him in with all the genuine illegal criminals.

Why not? He IS a criminal.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-24   20:55:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#21)

The crime would be that he crossed the border illegally. Living here is not a crime.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-24   21:05:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: no gnu taxes (#23)

The crime would be that he crossed the border illegally. Living here is not a crime.

Are you on drugs? If you are here illegally,living here is an illegal act.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-25   7:13:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete, wood_chopper (#46)

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

* Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

* Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

* Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;

has committed a federal crime.

The crime is the entry. Residing here is not a crime.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-25   8:32:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: no gnu taxes (#50)

The crime is the entry. Residing here is not a crime.

I see. Breaking into a house is the crime,but stealing from it is just peachy-keen.

Good thinking!

Tell me something,if what you claim is true,WHY does the INS arrest and deport people who have successfully committed the crime,and are then doing nothing but sitting around thinking puppy dog thoughts and dreaming of whirled peas?

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-26   11:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#57)

I'm not arguing what should or shouldn't be; I'm simply citing what the code says. And the only code I find only addresses entry.

Produce the code that states residing in the US without proper documentation is a crime and I'll accept it.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-26   11:38:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: no gnu taxes, sneakypete (#59)

I'm not arguing what should or shouldn't be; I'm simply citing what the code says. And the only code I find only addresses entry.

Produce the code that states residing in the US without proper documentation is a crime and I'll accept it.

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

SOURCE

Murron  posted on  2010-05-27   0:01:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Murron (#68)

I already posted that and it only addresses entry, not residence.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-27   11:24:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: no gnu taxes (#72)

I already posted that and it only addresses entry, not residence.

You're playing word games ngt, and it's no wonder kids are growing up today dumber than a box of rocks. If it's Illegal for them to be here, it's iIlegal to remain here, just ask any employer who hires them now, or any landlord who gets caught housing them...

By your logic, it's a crime to break into a persons home, but it's not a crime for them to stay there...

Making excuses that defend their crimes instead of demanding our laws be enforced is destroying this nation, you are either a part of it, or don't care, which is it? Then I might have a better perspective where you're coming from.

Otherwise, if you have any thoughts on this and care, what would be your solutions to end this invasion?

Murron  posted on  2010-05-27   17:51:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Murron (#73)

I'm not playing anything. The law makes entry illegal.

If it's Illegal for them to be here, it's iIlegal to remain here,

They can be deported if they don't have legal residence, but residing here is no crime.

it's a crime to break into a persons home, but it's not a crime for them to stay there...

If they don't steal or damage anything, what's the crime other than the illegal entry?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-27   17:55:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: no gnu taxes (#74) (Edited)

but residing here is no crime.

Tell ya what shill, you might want to check 8USC1326, which makes it a felony to be FOUND in the U.S. That's right, whether RESIDING or just visiting, IT'S A CRIME TO MERELY BE FOUND IN THE U.S.

Criminal. FELONY. Up to 2 years.

And a lot more years for certain types.

Tell your masters comprehensive immigration reform won't fly.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-28   2:29:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Wood_Chopper (#77)

8 USC 1326

REENTRY OF REMOVED ALIENS.

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