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Title: Sarah Palin Takes Stand on Immigration, Palin Enters Immigration Debate, After Endorsing Arizona Illegal Immigration Law
Source: abcnews
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sara ... -arizona-law/story?id=10707136
Published: May 22, 2010
Author: By KRISTINA WONG
Post Date: 2010-05-22 16:20:34 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Palin, Arizona, SB1070
Views: 33141
Comments: 111

Sarah Palin had been heretofore fairly silent on the issue of immigration. This week for the first time, however, she has been outspoken, making at least five recent public statements on the issue and coming out in full support of Arizona's controversial new immigration law.

She even encouraged other states to adopt similar laws.

"I think every other state on the border should emulate what Arizona has done," she said on FOX News Wednesday night. "Jan Brewer, the governor of Arizona, has taken upon herself, her state government, to do what the feds should have been doing all along and say, 'No, we're going to secure this border.'

"From there, then, once that is taken care of, we can deal with those who are here illegally and we can figure out all that immigration reform that needs to take place. Yes, other states should do what Arizona is doing," she said.

She posted on her Facebook page Tuesday about immigration for the second time in a week.

"Arizonans have the courage to do what the Obama administration has failed to do in its first year and a half in office, namely secure our border and enforce our federal laws," she wrote. "And as a result, Arizonans have been subjected to a campaign of baseless accusations by the same people who freely admit they haven't a clue about what they're actually campaigning against."

A Palin spokesperson declined to comment for this story.

The former Alaska governor sparked controversy Saturday with her comments at a campaign event for Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

"Now this state has enacted a law -- it mirrors the federal law -- which allows police to ask those they otherwise have stopped to provide a driver's license or other verification of legal presence. I think for most American people the reaction to this would be, 'Why haven't the police already been doing that?'" Palin asked the crowd.

She encouraged the Highland Park High School girls basketball team the week before to "go rogue" after school administrators canceled its participation in an Arizona tournament, citing safety concerns and the state's new immigration law.

She later posted on Facebook: "These boycotts of Arizona will not help the state or lead to positive change. Economic and political boycotts of our nation's 48th state will hurt all Arizonans, including all members of the Hispanic community."

Palin's back-to-back flurry of comments marked her public entry into an issue that had not previously been a prominent part of her conservative mix of issues, which included energy, fiscal conservatism and small government.

"She had actually been fairly positive about immigration reform as a vice presidential candidate," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voices, a liberal-leaning immigration reform group that immediately criticized Palin.

"When she decided to embrace the Arizona show-me-your-papers law, we thought it justified criticizing her for embracing a law that institutionalized racial and ethnic discrimination," Sharry said.

A Palin Change of Heart?

As a vice-presidential candidate, Palin told Spanish-language television network Univision during an interview Oct. 26, 2008, "There is no way that in the U.S. we would roundup every illegal immigrant ... there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants. ... Not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue."

Her GOP presidential running mate, Sen. John McCain, had taken a similar stance, arguing for a comprehensive immigration plan, a multi-faceted approach that includes border patrol, a crackdown on illegal hiring, legalizing immigrants already in the United States and creating a more flexible immigration system. The Arizona law and its more stringent provisions were not part of the national debate at the time.

But Palin came out last Saturday in clear support of Arizona's new law, which would be the most robust in the nation in terms of targeting people suspected of being illegal immigrants. The law is set to take effect July 29, barring any successful legal challenges.

Sharry said Palin's comments risk alienating Latino voters, the fastest-growing group of voters, from the Republican Party. Latino voter registration grew 54 percent and turnout grew 64 percent from 2000 to 2008, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Republican President George W. Bush and Republican political strategist Karl Rove had made inroads with Latinos in 2000 and 2004 in key states such as Florida, Sharry said, where Latino voters backed Bush over Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts by a 12 point margin in 2004.

But, Sharry said, "The Republican party has now become branded among Latino immigrants as the 'party that hates us.'"

According to a report by America's Voices, Latinos will make a difference in 42 races in 12 states in the upcoming 2010 mid-term gubernatorial, Senate and House races: Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.

"Someone like Sarah Palin or John McCain or Mitt Romney should stand up and say, 'Stop the madness, stop the political suicide,'" Sharry said.

Alfonso Aguilar, executive director for the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, said liberals were trying to use the Arizona law to unfairly attack Republicans, when it's really Democrats who have failed to act on immigration laws.

"They know Latinos are mad at them [Democrats], so they're trying to use Arizona to drive a wedge, to say, 'You know what, Republicans don't like Latinos," Aguilar said. "Sadly, they know that the reason why we have the law in Arizona is because Barack Obama has not dealt with immigration as he said he would during the campaign. He has absolutely failed the Latino community."

Aguilar said that although he doesn't support the law, reaction to it has been exaggerated.

"I'm not a fan of Arizona law, but to say that the bill will lead to systematic and mass discrimination is an outright lie," he said.

He added that attempts to pit Latinos against Republicans would backfire within the Latino community.

"Latinos don't like to be treated in a condescending way," he said. "They're not going to respond to those tactics, and I think it's going to backfire."

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#35. To: jwpegler (#32) (Edited)

No, your ability to write an English language sentence sucks...What the hell does that mean??? NOTHING.

The fact your IQ limits you from understanding it is not my fault. Others will understand.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-24   22:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: jwpegler (#33)
(Edited)

You are for comprehensive reform. You would screw the citizens of this country, and those who came here legally to be Americans.

Fuck off.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-24   22:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Wood_Chopper (#36) (Edited)

You are for comprehensive reform.

Yes, I want to solve the issue.

Fuck off.

Merry Christmas.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-24   22:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: jwpegler (#37)

(WC)You are for comprehensive reform.

(jwpegler)Yes

Then here is your answer: Fuck off.

No more debate. No more spin. No more back and forth.

You want comprehensive reform? Fuck off.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-24   22:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All, (#36) (Edited)

(WC)You would screw the citizens of this country, and those who came here legally to be Americans?

(jwpegler) Yes.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-24   23:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: jwpegler, ALL (#33) (Edited)

We Are Not A 'Police State' If We Enforce Our Immigration Laws, and you just feed that lie every time you repeat it. This 'Police State' you other's fear so much happens ONLY when you give up your STATES RIGHTS and hand them over to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NO SIR! We DO NOT need REFORM in any shape or form, we need to ENFORCE the laws we already have...we don't need more laws or the FEDS dictating what laws can be enforced and what laws we should IGNORE! JMHO!

Watch this short video, and if you have any SHAME at all as a natural born citizen, Bow your head!

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-05-24   23:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Murron (#40) (Edited)

You still have me on bozo?

Yeah, it looks like ya do, gutless.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-24   23:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Wood_Chopper (#39) (Edited)

(WC)You would screw the citizens of this country, and those who came here legally to be Americans?

(jwpegler) Yes.

I never said any such thing.

You are a lying sack of garbage. Trailer park trash.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-24   23:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: jwpegler (#42)

I never said any such thing.

I'm sorry. What part of "Fuck off" didn't you understand?

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-24   23:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: jwpegler (#42)

(WC)You would screw the citizens of this country, and those who came here legally to be Americans?

(jwpegler) Yes.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-24   23:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: jwpegler (#42)

You are a lying sack of garbage. Trailer park trash.

You mouthy little fuck.

You come on this thread, spouting absolute bullshit about immigration law you haven't the foggiest idea of, you back comprehensive immigration reform that fucks over citizens of this country and immigrants who have followed the laws here to become Americans, then call me Trailer park trash?

Fuck off. Debate's over.

Oh, and in case you STILL can't understand it: FUCK OFF. Debate's over

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-25   0:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: no gnu taxes (#23)

The crime would be that he crossed the border illegally. Living here is not a crime.

Are you on drugs? If you are here illegally,living here is an illegal act.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-25   7:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Wood_Chopper (#38)

You want comprehensive reform?

Yeah no more immigrationm period for 20 years. Prison for people who hire illegals. People who support the illegal invasion should be ridiculed and made fun of until they cry.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-25   7:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: jwpegler (#37)

Yes, I want to solve the issue.

Fine. Then you MUST agree with me that the best and quickest solution would be to deport any illegal alien caught,confiscate ALL the assets they have in the US to repay the Treasury for their arrest,confinement,and other expenses involved in deporting them,and forever ban them from ever acquiring even a temporary visa to enter the US to work.

On top of that we should fine Mexico for every illegal alien caught entering the US from Mexico,regardless of their country of origin. If they refuse to pay we can seize their assets in the US to make up for the difference,and even reduce our foreign aid to Mexico in order to pay off the associated expenses. THAT will get their attention and make them start paying more attention to their northern border.

All this is in addition to stepping up enforcement of our border,stepping up the enforcement of fines against employers who knowingly hire illegals,cutting off ALL government services including schooling to anybody who can't prove they are American citizens or legal resident aliens,etc,etc,etc.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-25   7:21:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: jwpegler (#42)

(WC)You would screw the citizens of this country, and those who came here legally to be Americans?

(jwpegler) Yes.

I never said any such thing.

Yes,you did. What else would you call slapping legal immigrants in the face who waited years to immigrate here legally and worked hard to become Americans by REWARDING illegal immigrants by GIVING them the same things these other people worked hard to get for themselves?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-25   7:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete, wood_chopper (#46)

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

* Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

* Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

* Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;

has committed a federal crime.

The crime is the entry. Residing here is not a crime.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-25   8:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: WhiteSands (#0)

This is hurting the owe-bama and the Democrats badly with voters.

The admission none of them even bothered to read the law in question stunned the population.

Then, when the actual wording of the law, based on existing Federal Law became common knowledge, the credibility of the detractors was gutted.

Follow that up with the idiot at ICE saying they wouldn't enforce OTHER EXISTING FEDERAL LAW as it relates particularly to Arizona...wow.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-25   9:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Secure the border. Criminalize the hiring of illegals in a meaningful way - IE CEO's, CFO's, COO's and Board Members go to jail if their organization hires them. Fine the corporations/company's the previous years GROSS SALES for this 'crime'.

The problem is solved completely in 12 months folks, if this were done. The flood of illegals would reverse itself comparatively 'overnight'.

We don't need 'comprehensive immigration reform'. Thats ridiculous bullshit.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-25   9:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: no gnu taxes (#50)

The crime is the entry. Residing here is not a crime.

Very good. You found 8USC1325. You are correct. Illegal entry is a crime.

But the existence of 1325 does not rule out other sections of 8USC.

Do some more homework with this scenario in mind:

An alien presents himself at a port of entry with all the necessary paperwork, including a visa, and enters the United States legally.

While here, his visa expires, and he decides to heck with it, the U.S. ain't a bad place to live, and decides to live the rest of his life here.

Going by your definitions, he can't be arrested and deported, because residing here isn't a crime, illegal entry is, and he entered legally.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-25   10:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: no gnu taxes (#20)

Short answer ngt, and please, I'm not being smug.

We have laws, we either enforce them or invite chaos...our laws either mean something where our Sovereignty is concerned, or they don't. Our laws were written to protect Americans, they were never meant to protect aliens who invade our nations Illegally...Period!

My sympathy, love, devotion, and loyalty lies with my people, the American people, my children and their future dreams, not theirs. If they want this same dream, then they should do it LEGALLY, not take it by force or overwhelm my country by numbers.

I am America First! If it insults some, that's too bad, there's not another country out there and it's people who don't feel the same. To ask us to feel differently is hypocratical. JMHO!

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-05-25   17:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Badeye (#52)

Secure the border. Criminalize the hiring of illegals in a meaningful way - IE CEO's, CFO's, COO's and Board Members go to jail if their organization hires them. Fine the corporations/company's the previous years GROSS SALES for this 'crime'.

When did you change your tune?

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-26   2:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Wood_Chopper (#55)

When did you change your tune?

I've always thought this was the way to go. Republicans blew this issue in the wake of 9/11. One of Bush's single biggest mistakes, and McCain's, and DeLay, Hastert, Frist, et al.

You want to stop illegal immigration, you remove the incentive from both the illegals and the employers.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-26   9:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: no gnu taxes (#50)

The crime is the entry. Residing here is not a crime.

I see. Breaking into a house is the crime,but stealing from it is just peachy-keen.

Good thinking!

Tell me something,if what you claim is true,WHY does the INS arrest and deport people who have successfully committed the crime,and are then doing nothing but sitting around thinking puppy dog thoughts and dreaming of whirled peas?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-26   11:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#57)

Being an illegal [sic] alien is a civil violation. Not a criminal one. Although, some US attorneys have filed some sort of misdemeanor charge against illegals [sic] by piggy backing another law. Not sure which one.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-26   11:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#57)

I'm not arguing what should or shouldn't be; I'm simply citing what the code says. And the only code I find only addresses entry.

Produce the code that states residing in the US without proper documentation is a crime and I'll accept it.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-26   11:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: war, sneakypete (#58)

Being an illegal [sic] alien is a civil violation. Not a criminal one.

Incorrect. There are both civil and criminal penalties.

The first illegal entry is a crime, a misdemeanor. The second time it's a felony that comes with an 'up to" two year prison sentence.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-26   13:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Wood_Chopper (#60)

Cite US code please...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-26   13:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: war (#61)

Cite US code please...

No war, you're the one who said illegal entry is a civil, not a criminal matter. You are posting bullshit.

YOU prove what you said. YOU cite the USC that says it's a civil, not criminal matter.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-26   13:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: no gnu taxes, sneakypete (#59)

I'm not arguing what should or shouldn't be; I'm simply citing what the code says. And the only code I find only addresses entry.

So since you can't find it, it doesn't exist?

Produce the code that states residing in the US without proper documentation is a crime and I'll accept it.

No you wouldn't. You're avoiding my post #53 like the plague.

Here it is again: Very good. You found 8USC1325. You are correct. Illegal entry is a crime.

But the existence of 1325 does not rule out other sections of 8USC.

Do some more homework with this scenario in mind:

An alien presents himself at a port of entry with all the necessary paperwork, including a visa, and enters the United States legally.

While here, his visa expires, and he decides to heck with it, the U.S. ain't a bad place to live, and decides to live the rest of his life here.

Going by your definitions, he can't be arrested and deported, because residing here isn't a crime, illegal entry is, and he entered legally.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-26   13:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Wood_Chopper (#62) (Edited)

o war, you're the one who said illegal entry is a civil, not a criminal matter. You are posting bullshit.

That is not what I "said". I was referring to alien immigrants already jus soli.

This was my reference [IIRC the law correctly]: an alien immigrant is subject to registration laws. If an alien immigrant does not register he or she has committed a misdemeanor. So, the act of being here, separate from the act of getting here, while in and of itself may not be criminal, failing to follow procedures once here, is.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-26   13:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Badeye (#56)

I've always thought this was the way to go.

I know better.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-26   22:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#47)

(W_C) You want comprehensive reform?

(A K A Stone)Yeah no more immigrationm period for 20 years. Prison for people who hire illegals. People who support the illegal invasion should be ridiculed and made fun of until they cry.

Agreed.

Now they're even pulling out and dusting off the old "we're sending the National Guard to the border" dog and pony show ploy.

And the hamster wheel keeps turning, and turning, and turning ....... running miles while going nowhere.

Bullshit artists all, no matter from what party.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-05-26   22:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Wood_Chopper (#66)

I'm happy we agree chopper. Carry on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-26   23:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: no gnu taxes, sneakypete (#59)

I'm not arguing what should or shouldn't be; I'm simply citing what the code says. And the only code I find only addresses entry.

Produce the code that states residing in the US without proper documentation is a crime and I'll accept it.

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

SOURCE

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-05-27   0:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Wood_Chopper (#65)

I've always thought this was the way to go. I know better.

Apparently not. I've always held this view, for over a decade.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   9:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Wood_Chopper (#62)

No war, you're the one who said illegal entry is a civil, not a criminal matter. You are posting bullshit.

YOU prove what you said. YOU cite the USC that says it's a civil, not criminal matter.

Good luck with that...(laughing)

And of course he's wrong.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   9:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Wood_Chopper (#66)

Yep.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-27   9:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Murron (#68)

I already posted that and it only addresses entry, not residence.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-27   11:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: no gnu taxes (#72)

I already posted that and it only addresses entry, not residence.

You're playing word games ngt, and it's no wonder kids are growing up today dumber than a box of rocks. If it's Illegal for them to be here, it's iIlegal to remain here, just ask any employer who hires them now, or any landlord who gets caught housing them...

By your logic, it's a crime to break into a persons home, but it's not a crime for them to stay there...

Making excuses that defend their crimes instead of demanding our laws be enforced is destroying this nation, you are either a part of it, or don't care, which is it? Then I might have a better perspective where you're coming from.

Otherwise, if you have any thoughts on this and care, what would be your solutions to end this invasion?

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-05-27   17:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Murron (#73)

I'm not playing anything. The law makes entry illegal.

If it's Illegal for them to be here, it's iIlegal to remain here,

They can be deported if they don't have legal residence, but residing here is no crime.

it's a crime to break into a persons home, but it's not a crime for them to stay there...

If they don't steal or damage anything, what's the crime other than the illegal entry?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-27   17:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: no gnu taxes (#74)

#1: "They can be deported if they don't have legal residence, but residing here is no crime."

#2: "If they don't steal or damage anything, what's the crime other than the illegal entry?"

#1: They CANNOT reside here because it is Illegal, it is a 'Crime', to HOUSE them! Residing here is a Crime, no matter how you try to put a spin on it.

They are committing Theft of government services at the expense of American tax payers, our elected officials are commiting theft and treason by allowing it.

They are not entitled to these services because they are not legal citizens.

#2: You are so wrong, illegal aliens are wreaking havoc and chaos all over this nation. If you have never been robbed by them, had your home broken into by a person who shoudn't be here in the first place, your children threatened in their schools by hispanic foreign thugs, had a loved one murdered in cold blood, slaughtered in a senseless drunken car crash, shot down, beaten, harrassed, intimidated, had your civil rights violated in favor of foreigners, then you know squat about damages and crime committed by Illegal Aliens.

This is not Mexico, it is America, and the American citizens Rights and Laws come first! jmho!

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-05-27   18:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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