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Title: Club for Growth's electoral tactics causing headaches for GOP
Source: WP
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 010/05/19/AR2010051902754.html
Published: May 19, 2010
Author: Dan Eggen
Post Date: 2010-05-19 15:49:38 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3512
Comments: 40

If you want to know how Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.) was driven from office, look beyond the Democratic primary he lost Tuesday. Instead, consider the role played by a small conservative group called the Club for Growth.

Specter bolted from the GOP last year to avoid an intraparty challenge from the group's former president, Pat Toomey, who secured the Republican nomination Tuesday and will face Democrat Joe Sestak in November. The group also helped organize the GOP uprising in Utah earlier this month that toppled three-term Sen. Robert F. Bennett (R), and was part of a conservative coalition that forced Florida Gov. Charlie Crist out of the GOP as well.

The organization, which is based in Washington but has strong ties to Wall Street, is fast becoming a thorn in the side of the Republican Party, exercising influence out of proportion to its size. The group's political action committee has endorsed 11 candidates so far and is likely to weigh in on a dozen more races by November with both endorsements and financial support, organizers said.

Its goal is to capitalize on the Republican-dominated "tea party" movement that has coalesced in opposition to President Obama's health-care overhaul, the Wall Street bailouts and other fiscal concerns, according to group leaders.

"The issues that are going to drive this election are the issues we focus on," said Chris Chocola, a former two-term House member from Indiana who serves as the group's president. "There are a lot of candidates running based on the issues we care about. If we don't have a good year, it's our fault."

But the decade-old group is causing major headaches for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and other Republican leaders, who are attempting to navigate between the demands of the energized tea party movement and a desire to attract more independent and moderate voters in November. The defeat of Bennett, regularly rated as one of the Senate's most conservative members, particularly rankled GOP leaders.

Top Republicans are reluctant to speak publicly about the group for fear of alienating voters. Former GOP congressman Tom Reynolds, who clashed with the Club for Growth when he headed the National Republican Congressional Committee during part of the George W. Bush administration, said the organization is usually helpful to the GOP but has made some decisions that have ended up helping Democrats. The group's insurgent campaign against Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava in New York, for example, led to the election of the first Democrat to the seat in generations.

"You can't call them a problem," Reynolds said of the group. "But sometimes they're at crosshairs with the party because they have their own agenda and their own scorecards."

Democrats, however, are thrilled to see a conservative group stoking discontent within the GOP. "The Club for Growth seems to be in a competition with the Tea Party to see how much damage they can do to the Republican Party and how extreme and rigidly ideological they can make it," Brad Woodhouse, spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said in a written statement.

Although the organization hopes to benefit from populist discontent, its roots are decidedly elite. The organization grew out of the Political Club for Growth, founded by investment banker Dick Gilder, who hosted private fundraising salons at his Manhattan brokerage firm in the 1980s and 1990s for GOP stalwarts such as Newt Gingrich and Steve Forbes. That group gave way in 1999 to the Washington-based organization headed by conservative economist Stephen Moore, who has since left to join the Wall Street Journal editorial board. Gilder sits on the group's board of directors.

The organization says that 37 current House and Senate members were elected with financial support from the Club for Growth PAC, which has spent about $4 million since 2007. The group also runs an independent political group that spent about $5 million on Internet advertising and other activities during the 2008 elections, records show. Contributors to the group have included employees of J.P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs and the libertarian Cato Institute, according to data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

Over the past decade, the Club for Growth has gained a reputation for targeting centrist Republicans, like Specter and Crist, for being insufficiently conservative on fiscal issues. In the case of Bennett, the group objected to his vote in favor of the Wall Street bailout in 2008 -- a move backed by then-President Bush -- and his work with Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) on an alternate health-care overhaul plan.

Starting in January, the organization focused on Utah's arcane system of caucuses and a convention for GOP nominees, using e-mail lists, Facebook and other Internet tools to notify and enlist ultra-conservative supporters. By packing the March caucuses with newcomers hostile to Bennett, the Club for Growth ensured Bennett's resounding defeat at the state nominating convention on May 8.

The cost of the effort was just $177,000 -- a mere fraction of the $2 million or more commonly required to topple an incumbent U.S. senator. "We took out Bennett for about as much as a senator's annual salary," said Club for Growth spokesman Mike Connolly.

Bennett, who boasted endorsements from the National Rifle Association and GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney, has said he is weighing a write-in campaign for the seat. Bennett said in an interview Friday that he and Specter had "shared our mutual dislike for the Club for Growth."

The two candidates who finished ahead of Bennett, businessman Tim Bridgewater and lawyer Mike Lee, will face each other in a June 22 primary. The Club for Growth is likely to endorse the winner, officials said.

"The Club for Growth was effective at identifying and mobilizing Utah voters who have grown tired of the old ways of Washington," said Greg Hartley, Bridgewater's campaign manager. "Until we get our fiscal house in order, incumbent politicians that are known to be big spenders will continue to be major targets of conservative PACs like the Club for Growth."

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Mitch McConnell and the RNC better get their collective heads out of their ass. The problem isn't the Club for Growth.

Its the old boy network from BOTH parties.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-19   16:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

The brain dead GOP establishment caused their own problems. They got booted from the Congress in 2006 because of their dismal record under Bush, spending like drunken sailors and running up the debt. The Club for Growth is just another group that trying to fix the problems. Hooray for them.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-19   16:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

Same view here.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-19   16:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#2) (Edited)

The brain dead GOP establishment caused their own problems. They got booted from the Congress in 2006 because of their dismal record under Bush, spending like drunken sailors and running up the debt. The Club for Growth is just another group that trying to fix the problems. Hooray for them.

Reality check:

Yesterday saw big gains for liberals in PA & Arkansas, huge Democratic turnout advantage in KY and the Democrats win their 7th straight special election in a district that went for John McCain in 2008 in PA.

The view toward November just got a lot cloudier from someone's house.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-05-19   16:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4)

(laughing)

You know I'll be here the day after the coming election. The view here is just fine.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-19   16:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#4)

Here is the actual reality check:

To date, 3 incumbents (Bob Bennett (R), Arlen Specter (R/D), Allen Mollohan (D)) got booted from office during their own party's primary process and one candidate, supported by almost the entire GOP establishment (Trey Grayson) got massacred in the primary against the Tea Party candidate. One incumbent Democrat Senator (Blanche Lincoln) was forced into a run-off election. One incumbent GOP governor (Charlie Crist) was forced out of the GOP Senate primary in Florida because he was so far behind the Tea Party candidate.

Yes, last night the Chief of Staff for a dead Democrat Congressman, who was in office for 35 years, won a special election because he ran away from Obama's agenda. They guy claimed he was pro-life, pro-gun, and would have voted against Obamacare and the so-called "stimulus" bill. Now, I think the guy is full of crap, but the voters bought it.

On top of this, there is now a Republican in Ted Kennedy's old seat for the first time in 50 years and we have a Republican Governor in New Jersey who seems hell bent on keeping his campaign promises to cut spending.

Of course, there was NY23 where the Democrat won because the brain dead GOP establishment selected a leftist pig as their standard bearer. There was a third party challenge, the GOP candidate quickly fell to third place, and endorsed the Democrat. That seat will be recaptured by the GOP in November.

Let's not forget that the GOP regained control of the Virginia Governor's office.

I'm pretty sure that this is where we are.

Yes, both parties are running away from the compromisers in the middle. I think that's great.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-19   17:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

Specter an is a different bird. While he was an incumbent Senator, he was not the choice of the democratic party. His party switch put an asterisk beside that incumbency. Frankly, when I heard he switched, I predicted that he'd be lucky if he got 38& of the primary vote.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-19   17:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#6)

Of course, there was NY23 where the Democrat won because the brain dead GOP establishment selected a leftist pig as their standard bearer.

They selected someone who was going to win until a moronic third party run gave the seat to a democrat.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-19   17:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#7)

he was not the choice of the democratic party

Wait a minute. He was the choice of a big chunk of the Democrat establishment including Obama, Pennsylvania Governor Ed Randal, the Democrat leader in his home district, some key union leaders, and more.

Specter wasn't the choice of the Democrat grass roots.

This mirrors Grayson pretty closely.

Here's one thing the media didn't pick up on -- they were both party switchers. Grayson was a Democrat who supported Clinton.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-19   18:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#8)

They selected someone who was going to win until a moronic third party run gave the seat to a democrat.

Win to what end?

The goal of politics is not to win. This is not a sport, where winning means everything. In politics, winning is a step towards the real goal, which is implementing public policy.

If I disagree with the person's public policy views, I don't want them to win.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-19   18:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#1)

The problem isn't the Club for Growth.

Its the old boy network from BOTH parties.

The Club for Growth is the old boy network in a new hat.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-19   20:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#10) (Edited)

If I disagree with the person's public policy views, I don't want them to win.

To what end?

Our republic was not designed to be a zero sum game. It was constructed specifically for consensus building. Madison wrote that the true check and balance in our government was found in bicameralistic legislature. You booted out someone who would have voted with you 80% of the time and elected someone who would be with you 10% if you're lucky.

Demanding 100% conformity to orthodoxy in a candidate is the first rule to remaining marginalized in politics. And if you do manage to get 1/435 elected, they will be a marginalized voice in that crowd as well.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   7:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: jwpegler (#9) (Edited)

Wait a minute.

I don't have to. I'm from PA. The reception within the PADC was lukewarm/halfhearted at best. The entirety of the Western PA Dem machine was lined up against him.

But it doesn't matter. All politics is local. He was NOT going to win a democratic primary in that State regardless of whatever conversion he professed and who campaigned for him.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   8:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#11)

(laughing) Riiight. Tell that to McConnell.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   9:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#12)

You booted out someone who would have voted with you 80% of the time and elected someone who would be with you 10% if you're luc

With regards to NY23, you're missing the point. It's a safe Republican district. If they had elected a liberal Republican (who would voted with the GOP 50% of the time, not 80%) we would be stuck with her for decades in Washington.

But now, the GOP can nominate a good candidate and take the seat back in November.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-20   10:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#13)

The entirety of the Western PA Dem machine was lined up against him

Since you live there I will take your word for it. Your Governor did support Specter as did Obama.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-20   10:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler (#15)

But now, the GOP can nominate a good candidate and take the seat back in November.

Don't bet on it. It's a centrist district that hates outsiders. One of Hoffman's problems was the LP angle. Lot of county to county town to town animosity up there.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#11)

The Club for Growth is the old boy network in a new hat.

The Club for Growth is part of the free-market, entrepreneurial wing of the GOP. They may have qualified to be part of the good old boy network when Reagan and Dick Army were around, but no longer. Today, they are outsiders looking to recapture the party from the big government "national greatness" conservatives.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-20   10:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: jwpegler (#16)

Since you live there I will take your word for it. Your Governor did support Specter as did Obama.

Lived. But I'm still wired in there.

Again, I'd caution that the support was nothing more than pro forma. They probably are glad that he lost. The second wife syndrome...he cheated on her with you and now you're surprised he's cheating on you?

You is not YOU, btw...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#18)

KEN BLACKWELL, Cincinnati, OH, JACKSON T. STEPHENS, Little Rock, AR, BRENT BOZELL, Alexandria, VA, LAWRENCE KUDLOW, Fairfield, CT

It reads like a Who's Who of Neocons and Boy Blunder Cheerleaders...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jwpegler (#18)

Yep. And they have zero use for 'moderates'. Which is another thing in their favor as far as I'm concerned.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   10:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#21) (Edited)

And they have zero use for 'moderates'.

You need to look over that list. There actually are a couple of supply side but political moderates on it.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#20)

From the very beginning the Club for Growth has funded free-market challengers to big government GOP Congressman in the primaries. The GOP establishment has not been happy with them. They are not part of the Republican Party establishment. They are conservatives who are trying to regain control of the party after the Bush's got trough destroying it. Yes, as I mentioned before some of these people have long been associated with the conservative movement and the Reagan administration. They are not neo-cons like Bill Kristol, David Frum and the rest of the big government crowd.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-05-20   11:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: jwpegler (#23)

All true.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   11:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jwpegler (#6)

Yes, last night the Chief of Staff for a dead Democrat Congressman, who was in office for 35 years, won a special election because he ran away from Obama's agenda. They guy claimed he was pro-life, pro-gun, and would have voted against Obamacare and the so-called "stimulus" bill. Now, I think the guy is full of crap, but the voters bought it.

He won because he pledged to keep the pork coming to the district.

On top of this, there is now a Republican in Ted Kennedy's old seat for the first time in 50 years and we have a Republican Governor in New Jersey who seems hell bent on keeping his campaign promises to cut spending.

Let's not forget that the GOP regained control of the Virginia Governor's office.

The Republican in Ted Kennedy's seat voted with Snowe and Collins today to end the filibuster of the Senate finance reform bill. And, the Republican Governor in VA has already raised taxes.

Of course, there was NY23 where the Democrat won because the brain dead GOP establishment selected a leftist pig as their standard bearer. There was a third party challenge, the GOP candidate quickly fell to third place, and endorsed the Democrat. That seat will be recaptured by the GOP in November.

the GOp would have held that district if the tea party didn't intervene.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-05-20   15:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler (#23) (Edited)

They are conservatives who are trying to regain control of the party after the Bush's got trough destroying it

Ken Blackwell secured the Ohio votes for Bush in 2004 by stifling a recount and he's prominently on that masthead, bro.

Larry Kudlow? He's a Reagan?bush retread. The other names I cited all have long ties to recent establishment GOP.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   18:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Badeye (#14)

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

I'm guessing the Club for Growth doesn't like environmental impact studies or pesky government regulations.

The primary tactic of the separate Club for Growth PAC is to provide financial support from Club members to viable candidates to Congress who believe in pro-growth policies, limited government, low taxes and economic freedom, both in Republican primaries and general elections.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-21   0:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#27)

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented. I'm guessing the Club for Growth doesn't like environmental impact studies or pesky government regulations.

Most of what you post is a 'guess'. No surprise there.

I don't know what their view is on this, and I don't see how its relevant.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   9:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Badeye (#28)

I don't know what their view is on this, and I don't see how its relevant.

It has to do with congruence.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-21   11:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#29)

(eyes rolling) You say so.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   11:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: go65 (#4)

Yesterday saw big gains for liberals in PA & Arkansas, huge Democratic turnout advantage in KY and the Democrats win their 7th straight special election in a district that went for John McCain in 2008 in PA.

The view toward November just got a lot cloudier from someone's house.

(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-08   15:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Badeye (#31)

(chuckle)

How's that GOP control of the Senate working out for you?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-08   19:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: go65 (#32)

(chuckle) How's that GOP control of the Senate working out for you?

Perfectly long term. Owe-bama can't run against 'a GOP controlled congress' in 2012, since his party controls two thirds of the Federal Government.

Added value is the GOP has the ability to filibuster ANYTHING, with or without the ditzy twins of Maine, and Grahmnesty.

Works for me.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-09   10:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Badeye (#33)

Perfectly long term. Owe-bama can't run against 'a GOP controlled congress' in 2012, since his party controls two thirds of the Federal Government.

And the GOP HAS to cut spending and create jobs as it promised to do if given control of House.

Pass the popcorn......


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-09   10:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: go65 (#34)

And the GOP HAS to cut spending and create jobs as it promised to do if given control of House.

Yep to the first, a nice wish on the 2nd.

Lets see what Owe-bama veto's, and yeah, pass the popcorn.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-09   10:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#35)

Yep to the first, a nice wish on the 2nd.

And, remember, we both agree that things will get worse next year.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-09   13:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: go65 (#36)

And, remember, we both agree that things will get worse next year.

You love to preach the Armageddon so much I'm starting to think you're willie green

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-11-09   13:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Badeye (#1)

Mitch McConnell and the RNC better get their collective heads out of their ass. The problem isn't the Club for Growth.

Its the old boy network from BOTH parties.

The Club for Growth is one of my favorite organizations. They have been funding challengers to RINOs in GOP primaries for years. Thanks to the Tea Party, the country has finally caught up to them. Hooray!


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-09   13:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65 (#36)

And, remember, we both agree that things will get worse next year.

No. I told you and everyone else in this forum a YEAR AGO 2011 would be worse.

You decided it would be cute to go along with it after it became apparent the Democrats would be fired as the majority within the House.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-09   13:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: jwpegler (#38)

The Club for Growth is one of my favorite organizations. They have been funding challengers to RINOs in GOP primaries for years. Thanks to the Tea Party, the country has finally caught up to them. Hooray!

Same view here.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-09   13:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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