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Title: NY Times Names BP Oil Spill Obama’s 9/11
Source: .thepiratescove.us
URL Source: http://www.thepiratescove.us/2010/0 ... names-bp-oil-spill-obamas-911/
Published: May 19, 2010
Author: .thepiratescove.us
Post Date: 2010-05-19 11:21:19 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 20583
Comments: 68

No. Seriously. Thomas Friedman actually goes there: Obama And The Oil Spill

President Obama’s handling of the gulf oil spill has been disappointing.

I say that not because I endorse the dishonest conservative critique that the gulf oil spill is somehow Obama’s Katrina and that he is displaying the same kind of incompetence that George W. Bush did after that hurricane. To the contrary, Obama’s team has done a good job coordinating the cleanup so far. The president has been on top of it from the start.

If the start is well over a week later before it was even addressed in the Real World, as opposed to the talk point of “day one” supported in ObamaLand. Here we go:

No, the gulf oil spill is not Obama’s Katrina. It’s his 9/11 — and it is disappointing to see him making the same mistake George W. Bush made with his 9/11. Sept. 11, 2001, was one of those rare seismic events that create the possibility to energize the country to do something really important and lasting that is too hard to do in normal times.

He did. He energized us to band together in those tough times. He said “no more, we are going after the terrorists, wherever they are.” Unfortunately, you libs waited two weeks before deciding you would become unhinged…..oh, you were talking about something else, Tom?

President Bush’s greatest failure was not Iraq, Afghanistan or Katrina. It was his failure of imagination after 9/11 to mobilize the country to get behind a really big initiative for nation-building in America. I suggested a $1-a-gallon “Patriot Tax” on gasoline that could have simultaneously reduced our deficit, funded basic science research, diminished our dependence on oil imported from the very countries whose citizens carried out 9/11, strengthened the dollar, stimulated energy efficiency and renewable power and slowed climate change. It was the Texas oilman’s Nixon-to-China moment — and Bush blew it.

You have to love it: America was hit with a massive terrorist attack, 2,996 of our friends, neighbors, and loved ones died, and a liberal immediately thinks to……raise taxes! And, of course, no mention of drilling for oil on our own lands.

So, what should Obama do with “his 9/1183; (it disgusts me to even contemplate putting it Friedman’s way)

Sadly, President Obama seems intent on squandering his environmental 9/11 with a Bush-level failure of imagination. So far, the Obama policy is: “Think small and carry a big stick.” He is rightly hammering the oil company executives. But he is offering no big strategy to end our oil addiction. Senators John Kerry and Joe Lieberman have unveiled their new energy bill, which the president has endorsed but only in a very tepid way. Why tepid? Because Kerry-Lieberman embraces vitally important fees on carbon emissions that the White House is afraid will be exploited by Republicans in the midterm elections. The G.O.P., they fear, will scream carbon “tax” at every Democrat who would support this bill, and Obama, having already asked Democrats to make a hard vote on health care, feels he can’t ask them for another.

Guffaw! The answer to “his environmental 9/1183; (I feel dirty) is not “get the oil spill stopped and cleaned up” but “pass the climate change bill.” You know, the one that will increase the cost of everything, both directly and indirectly. I love how they call it an energy bill, when the majority of the bullet points in the deck are about a carbon tax.

I don’t buy it. In the wake of this historic oil spill, the right policy — a bill to help end our addiction to oil — is also the right politics. The people are ahead of their politicians. So is the U.S. military. There are many conservatives who would embrace a carbon tax or gasoline tax if it was offset by a cut in payroll taxes or corporate taxes, so we could foster new jobs and clean air at the same time. If Republicans label Democrats “gas taxers” then Democrats should label them “Conservatives for OPEC” or “Friends of BP.” Shill, baby, shill.

I notice you failed to mention that Obama was the single biggest recipient of money from BP, Tom. Why is that? Anyhow, if you raise a tax on one thing, but lower it elsewhere, doesn’t that mean a net of $0? Only in Liberal World does it mean an increase in money.

Please don’t tell us that our role is just to hate BP or shop in Mississippi or wait for a commission to investigate. We know the problem, and Americans are ready to be enlisted for a solution. Of course we can’t eliminate oil exploration or dependence overnight, but can we finally start? Mr. President, your advisers are wrong: Americans are craving your leadership on this issue. Are you going to channel their good will into something that strengthens our country — “The Obama End to Oil Addiction Act” — or are you going squander your 9/11, too?

It is not his 9/11. While, sadly, 11 people died, and certainly much wildlife will die, along with polluted shorelines, this isn’t even in the same league. More like high school baseball versus the MLB.

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#29. To: war (#28)

It wasn't a defense.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: no gnu taxes (#29)

You claimed that he dithered with a Ct 5 Hurrican bearing down. As soon as it was upgraded to Cat 5, which was less than 24 hours before landfall, he acted.

It could ONLY be a defense.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#30)

splitting hairs

What was New Orleans contingency plan for evacuating the city? There should be one for even a Cat 3. In fact by the time the storm hit NO, it was only a Cat 3 or Cat 4.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: no gnu taxes (#31)

splitting hairs

I'm quoting YOU and applying YOUR standards, Paddy. So, if anyone is splitting hairs...

In fact by the time the storm hit NO, it was only a Cat 3 or Cat 4.

So then what did it matter and how does it obviate tha documented feeble response from the Feds for the largest FEDERALLY controlled waterport of entry?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#32)

The Federal response wasn't feeble, no matter how much you and the other lefties keep wanting to repeat that spin.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#33)

Chuckles...even the GOP knew it was feeble, Paddy. They were all over Boy Blunder and Chertoff to get off of their asses and do something.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war, badeye (#10)

Hey guys, how's life? I'm afraid i've lost some of the energy needed for constant online carping, but who knows, I may get it back!

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-20   13:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AlBundy (#35)

Mines doing pretty good all things considered AB.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   14:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Boofer, ALBundy (#36) (Edited)

Mines [sic] doing pretty good all things considered AB.

Chyea...besides the fact that your business is going tits up because you're clueless as a businessman, you're ugly and you're only marketable skill is that you might be able to type fast, it's going REAL good, eh?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   18:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#37) (Edited)

Chyea...besides the fact that your business is going tits up because you're clueless as a businessman, you're ugly and you're only marketable skill is that you might be able to type fast, it's going REAL good, eh?

Boofer already has some feelers out in the job market. The problem is, he won't accept a job that pays him what's he's worth.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-20   18:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war, badeye (#37)

OK, I need to know. How did you both end up here? And what is this forum? the successor of some from the past?

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-20   20:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AlBundy (#39)

OK, I need to know. How did you both end up here? And what is this forum? the successor of some from the past?

You may want to visit this forum:

http://libertypost.org/

and do some post searches

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   21:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: no gnu taxes (#40)

Come on, don't make me work! Tell me what happened.

;)

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-20   23:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: AlBundy (#41)

Hey man...we can't type that fast. Boteye can though.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-20   23:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: AlBundy (#41)

Come on, don't make me work! Tell me what happened.

;)

The short is, they both were banned from LP and ended up coming here after having a few other adventures along the way.

As far as the history of this forum, I'm fairly new here myself.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-20   23:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz (#42)

Whatever ethel.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   9:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: AlBundy (#39) (Edited)

After Bill booted us all from Pipe, the board melted down. Henny and badeye went at it over some form of the word "nigger" and badeye got booted too. JJ was already posting at a forum called LibertyPost and badeye was alerted to the site whereupon he invited me.

Badeye eventually became Boteye and then promptly lost any sense of proportion between the real world and the internet. He made enemies of past friends and became an absolute joke of a poster across several boards. The then site owner, Neil McIver, whose software we use here, banned Boteye's sorry ass, first for trying to post as two different people under two screen names: badeye/Monocle. Then later for being caught in lie after lie after lie which spawned Neil's belief that Badeye was a paid poster for the RNC - which is a suspicion that I and many, many otehrs share.

When Neil left, Goldi let him back on. But the inevitable happened; he had one final meltdown at LP in which he used the resources of his company to do background checks on posters and when the site owner was given incontrovertable evidence of this, she banned him.

We had two years of blissfull posting there until I hinted that a guy who routinely posted pics of under age semi nude teenage girls and made sexual references to them MIGHT be a pedopohile, I got suspended pending an apology. As If.

I started posting here in January and, like bad breath in the morning, Boofer nee Badeye showed up.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-21   9:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#45)

You know, that reads eerily like the opening voice over of a bad cable movie.

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-05-21   9:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Bartcoprules (#46)

Glad that came through!!!

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-21   9:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war (#45) (Edited)

He had one final meltdown at LP in which he used the resources of his company to do background checks on posters and when the site owner was given incontrovertable evidence of this, she banned him.

You forgot the part where Neil banned him first. And then when Neil gave up his part-ownership solely to Goldi, she let Boteye back onto LP.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-21   9:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Fred Mertz (#48)

(laughing) You clowns can repeat that lie as many times as you like, it doesn't make it true.

I NEVER did a 'background check' on any poster. I didn't have to. The anti groupie was outted by forum owners that banned his goofy ass. The others were outted by Clownposse.

Neil banned me because I simply wouldn't kiss his ridiculous ass in the forum. He lost credibility with many there, including Goldi/Sally because his reasons didn't pass the 'smell test'. Over 7,000 posts on two or three different threads related to that don't lie.

The simple fact of the matter, as I explained recently here, is none of you are that 'important' to me. And logistically, there is no way to even begin a 'background check' from a freakin screen name based on an acronym, or a television charter like yours, Freddie.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   10:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mininggold (#43)

Actually, kookie, the 'short' is the anti groupie was banned from six different forums, including FR twice, the last time for spamming my FR email account, along with that idiot ImStillRight.

Yep, Goldi/Sally 'banned' me. Looking back, I'm damn glad. That forum has degenerated into stormfront lite.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   10:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Boofer (#49)

The anti groupie was outted by forum owners that banned his goofy ass.

Chuckles...shall I [again] post our email exchanges, Boof?

Bluff called.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-21   10:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Badeye (#50)

Actually, kookie, the 'short' is the anti groupie was banned from six different forums, including FR twice, the last time for spamming my FR email account, along with that idiot ImStillRight.

Banned once from FR.

And everyone here has seen the Freep mail exchange between us in which I suggest we bury the hatchet and move on.

You can lie but you can't hide.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-21   10:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Badeye (#50)

ImStillRight

I wonder what happened to him. He was making 50 posts a day on LP and just abruptly stopped posting.

Doesn't really matter, but I'm just curious.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-21   10:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: no gnu taxes (#53)

He was sending that many spam emails to my FR account per day for over a week before the mod/admins there banned both him and the anti groupie at the same time.

I didn't ask them to do that, I just asked if there was a way to block a FR email account from sending you crap every day. Apparently there isn't, so they just zapped em both.

The anti groupie actually complained to Jim Robinson because my response to one of his spams to me was 'fuck off'....(chuckle)

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   10:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: war, badeye (#45)

Badeye was booted from Pipe? Wasn't he a sponsor there???

BTw, what's wrong with us that we keep getting kicked out from online forums?

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-21   10:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: AlBundy (#55)

I'm a poster at the pipe, I was never 'booted'. Just as I'm a poster at Lcom, FR, and a bunch of other places. The fact is the pipe is still using the same software it had the day it opened, and its a small chat forum, rather than a political forum. I talk with Bill occasionally, but it doesn't really have any interest for me. btw, Henny passed away recently.

That all said:

Albundy - if you want to revisit this nonsense, don't ping me. Its a waste of time.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   10:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Badeye (#56)

henny died? Sorry to hear that.

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-21   10:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: AlBundy (#55)

A bit of cataloging of the whole L.com to Pipebomb to Liberty Post transition here if you care to read it:

http://lucianne.htmlplanet.com/website6.htm

Don't know who wrote this.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-21   10:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: no gnu taxes (#58)

hahaha. thanks. I love the internets!

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-21   11:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: AlBundy (#57)

Yeah, me too. He was a bit of a racist/bigot, but he meant well. I had a standing invitation to visit his place. Sorry I never got the chance.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   11:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Badeye (#50) (Edited)

Actually, kookie, the 'short' is the anti groupie was banned from six different forums, including FR twice, the last time for spamming my FR email account, along with that idiot ImStillRight.

Yep, Goldi/Sally 'banned' me. Looking back, I'm damn glad. That forum has degenerated into stormfront lite.

What is it about the English language that is soo difficult for you? Not every poster is a gossip and interested in every little twist and turn of yours or war's life. 'Adventures' says it all.

Of course you are able to get your hands on security checks, and with your record of 'honest' posting I would say anyone who believes to the contrary is one of the naive/gullibles you love to prey on. I suspect the reason you are kept busy staying out of the affairs of your company is due to your having lost security clearances due to the behaviors you exhibit on this forum.

Also you can keep spinning the false LP stormfront angle which seems to be what you and your wife, Whitey Girl, do best.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-21   11:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Boofer, AlBundy (#56)

I'm a poster at the pipe, I was never 'booted'.

Chuckles...the LP database doesn't lie Boof. There will be a post Monday in which you admit to being booted.

Albundy - if you want to revisit this nonsense, don't ping me. Its a waste of time.

I can understand your wanting to get away from the past, Boof...your version differs from everyone else's.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-21   11:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mininggold (#61)

Not every poster is a gossip and interested in every little twist and turn of yours or war's life. 'Adventures' says it all.

So far you've demonstrated the exact opposite of what you say here, noting the numerous pings and cut and pasting you do related to this.

Its my hope in the future you do as you say here. We'll see.

'...is due to your having lost security clearances '

Security Clearances? What the fuck are babbling about HERE? I haven't had a security clearance since I left the inactive reserve in 1984, kookie. I'm not in the service, I'm not working for the government. Is this another off shoot of one of your infamous 'conspiracy theories'?

Sheesh...(laughing)

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   11:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Badeye (#63) (Edited)

You are sooo full of it. LOL

I'm merely showing you to be a confabulator for our newest poster. It's sooo easy.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-21   11:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Badeye (#54)

I sent you two Freep mails, Boofer.

You responded twice.

JR made you change your profile in which you stated confidential information about me that you had gleaned from using your company to do a background check on me.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-21   11:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#64)

...said the Hitler Youth Leader....

Our 'newest poster' and I go back years, kookie.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   11:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Badeye (#66)

Our 'newest poster' and I go back years, kookie.

Then he already knows about your serial confabulation.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-21   12:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mininggold (#67)

...said the Hitler Youth Leader....

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-21   12:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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