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Title: NY Times Names BP Oil Spill Obama’s 9/11
Source: .thepiratescove.us
URL Source: http://www.thepiratescove.us/2010/0 ... names-bp-oil-spill-obamas-911/
Published: May 19, 2010
Author: .thepiratescove.us
Post Date: 2010-05-19 11:21:19 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 20507
Comments: 68

No. Seriously. Thomas Friedman actually goes there: Obama And The Oil Spill

President Obama’s handling of the gulf oil spill has been disappointing.

I say that not because I endorse the dishonest conservative critique that the gulf oil spill is somehow Obama’s Katrina and that he is displaying the same kind of incompetence that George W. Bush did after that hurricane. To the contrary, Obama’s team has done a good job coordinating the cleanup so far. The president has been on top of it from the start.

If the start is well over a week later before it was even addressed in the Real World, as opposed to the talk point of “day one” supported in ObamaLand. Here we go:

No, the gulf oil spill is not Obama’s Katrina. It’s his 9/11 — and it is disappointing to see him making the same mistake George W. Bush made with his 9/11. Sept. 11, 2001, was one of those rare seismic events that create the possibility to energize the country to do something really important and lasting that is too hard to do in normal times.

He did. He energized us to band together in those tough times. He said “no more, we are going after the terrorists, wherever they are.” Unfortunately, you libs waited two weeks before deciding you would become unhinged…..oh, you were talking about something else, Tom?

President Bush’s greatest failure was not Iraq, Afghanistan or Katrina. It was his failure of imagination after 9/11 to mobilize the country to get behind a really big initiative for nation-building in America. I suggested a $1-a-gallon “Patriot Tax” on gasoline that could have simultaneously reduced our deficit, funded basic science research, diminished our dependence on oil imported from the very countries whose citizens carried out 9/11, strengthened the dollar, stimulated energy efficiency and renewable power and slowed climate change. It was the Texas oilman’s Nixon-to-China moment — and Bush blew it.

You have to love it: America was hit with a massive terrorist attack, 2,996 of our friends, neighbors, and loved ones died, and a liberal immediately thinks to……raise taxes! And, of course, no mention of drilling for oil on our own lands.

So, what should Obama do with “his 9/1183; (it disgusts me to even contemplate putting it Friedman’s way)

Sadly, President Obama seems intent on squandering his environmental 9/11 with a Bush-level failure of imagination. So far, the Obama policy is: “Think small and carry a big stick.” He is rightly hammering the oil company executives. But he is offering no big strategy to end our oil addiction. Senators John Kerry and Joe Lieberman have unveiled their new energy bill, which the president has endorsed but only in a very tepid way. Why tepid? Because Kerry-Lieberman embraces vitally important fees on carbon emissions that the White House is afraid will be exploited by Republicans in the midterm elections. The G.O.P., they fear, will scream carbon “tax” at every Democrat who would support this bill, and Obama, having already asked Democrats to make a hard vote on health care, feels he can’t ask them for another.

Guffaw! The answer to “his environmental 9/1183; (I feel dirty) is not “get the oil spill stopped and cleaned up” but “pass the climate change bill.” You know, the one that will increase the cost of everything, both directly and indirectly. I love how they call it an energy bill, when the majority of the bullet points in the deck are about a carbon tax.

I don’t buy it. In the wake of this historic oil spill, the right policy — a bill to help end our addiction to oil — is also the right politics. The people are ahead of their politicians. So is the U.S. military. There are many conservatives who would embrace a carbon tax or gasoline tax if it was offset by a cut in payroll taxes or corporate taxes, so we could foster new jobs and clean air at the same time. If Republicans label Democrats “gas taxers” then Democrats should label them “Conservatives for OPEC” or “Friends of BP.” Shill, baby, shill.

I notice you failed to mention that Obama was the single biggest recipient of money from BP, Tom. Why is that? Anyhow, if you raise a tax on one thing, but lower it elsewhere, doesn’t that mean a net of $0? Only in Liberal World does it mean an increase in money.

Please don’t tell us that our role is just to hate BP or shop in Mississippi or wait for a commission to investigate. We know the problem, and Americans are ready to be enlisted for a solution. Of course we can’t eliminate oil exploration or dependence overnight, but can we finally start? Mr. President, your advisers are wrong: Americans are craving your leadership on this issue. Are you going to channel their good will into something that strengthens our country — “The Obama End to Oil Addiction Act” — or are you going squander your 9/11, too?

It is not his 9/11. While, sadly, 11 people died, and certainly much wildlife will die, along with polluted shorelines, this isn’t even in the same league. More like high school baseball versus the MLB.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Friedman's analysis reflects his Liberal insanity.

This is Owe-bama's Katrina, and his slow reaction is almost an exact duplicate of Bush's to that disaster.

The difference is Katrina didn't buy off Bush. BP Oil did buy off Owe-bama.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-19   11:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes, A K A Stone (#0)

This is NOT the NY Times position but a syndicated writer's.

That said, the 9/11 reference was in to what could be accomplished 9/12 and NOT what was done on 9/11.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-19   11:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#2)

You can still rationalize your support for Obama.

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-05-19   15:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#1)

The difference is Katrina didn't buy off Bush. BP Oil did buy off Owe-bama.

Yeah that, and human bodies roting in the flood water.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-19   15:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: WhiteSands (#3)

Just as you rationalize being an asshole...

It's all relative...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-19   15:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#4)

Sorry, they had five full days to get out. They had a 48 hour warning they'd probably die from Bush himself, the idiot mayor that didn't follow his own evacuation plan, and the idiot governor that need 'to think about it for 24 hours' before letting the Federal Government take control with all that entails.

Blaming Bush for the deaths is simply ridiculous. Read 'The Great Deluge' by Douglas Brinkley - hardly a Bush supporter.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-19   15:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#6)

Sorry, they had five full days to get out. They had a 48 hour warning they'd probably die from Bush himself, the idiot mayor that didn't follow his own evacuation plan, and the idiot governor that need 'to think about it for 24 hours' before letting the Federal Government take control with all that entails.

Reality is never an option for you when you spout this nonsense is it.

Nagin implemented his plan. The problem was, half the bus drivers never showed up. And Boy Blunder did squat.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-19   18:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#7)

Nagin implemented his plan.

Nagin didn't declare a mandatory evacuation until less than 24 hours before the storm leaving such an evacuation impossible.

Bush had federal troops fully in place 72 hours after the storm cleared, which is a remarkable response. Only a dumbass would think Bush would be handing out food and water as soon as the winds cleared.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-19   18:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#7)

I see you and Badeye are still at it. It's great when things don't change!!

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-19   20:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AlBundy (#9)

'sup Dude?!?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   7:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: no gnu taxes (#8)

You claimed that the storm missed NO anyway...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   7:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#11)

What I have claimed (and truthfully so) is that the MS gulf coast took much more of a hit than New Orleans did. As there State and local governments were prepared to handle emergency response (no to mention there wasn't a bunch of welfare entitlement mentality morons who were expecting the Federal Government to be providing catered food service as soon as the storm passed), you didn't see the whining you did from the Louisiana dumbasses.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   8:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: no gnu taxes (#12) (Edited)

So what's it matter when one is an apple and the other is an orange?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   8:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#6)

the idiot mayor that didn't follow his own evacuation plan

He dithered and waited until to it was impossible to evacuate to declare a mandatory evacuation because he was worried about the political ramifications of disrupting lodging and restaurant businesses. This as a category 5 hurricane is approaching his city which lies below sea level, and whose residents are too stupid to take responsibility for themselves.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   8:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: no gnu taxes (#14)

How many were left in the city when he declared the mandatory evacuationi?

30k?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   8:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#15)

How many were left in the city when he declared the mandatory evacuationi?

30k?

I'd guess about 5 million based on the news reports that went on Wednesday and Thursday after the hurricane that had scores of people dropping dead in the streets because Bush wanted them to die.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   8:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes (#14)

Yep. That said, thats also where Bush screwed up. You don't stay 'on vacation' when something like that is taking place, let alone attend a fundraiser. We all know a President can do his job, literally, from any location on the planet. But the public perception does have 'meaning'.

He screwed that aspect up badly. Then, by choosing not to respond to the wholly out of context 'Heck of a job, Brownie' line, he pretty much blew his second term up.

The vast majority don't know when he said that, it was in response to FOUR DEMOCRATS heaping praise on Brown in front of the camera's.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   9:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AlBundy (#9)

No, the anti groupie begs for my attention daily...and does'nt receive it AB. Its actually quite pathetic.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   9:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#18)

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   9:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Badeye (#17)

That said, thats also where Bush screwed up. You don't stay 'on vacation' when something like that is taking place

Well, he takes a high profile as the hurricane is ocurring, and then he's "grandstanding."

You have to recall what actually happened. The hit to new Orleans was relatively mild. In fact as the hurricane was passing through, the reports were that they appeared to have dodged a bullet. Folks were worried about a possible overtopping of the levees and that didn't happen.

It wasn't until the hurricane passed that a breech of the levees flooding the city made its appearance. This occurred on Tuesday. Bush immediately ended his vacation. Federal troops were fully in place with provisions there by Friday morning. In spite of the 24 hour nonstop coverage of people dyeing in the streets shown on Wednesday and Thursday, the Federal response was about as good as could be expected.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   9:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: no gnu taxes (#20)

You forgot the "Once Upon A Time..."

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   9:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Boofer, Skip Intro, minninggold, Fred Mertz (#17)

Then, by choosing not to respond to the wholly out of context 'Heck of a job, Brownie' line, he pretty much blew his second term up.

OUT OF CONTEXT?!?

ROFLMAO...

Today's Booferic Bullshit line is...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   9:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: no gnu taxes (#20)

This occurred on Tuesday. Bush immediately ended his vacation

I know/agree with everything you said, except for the above. Perception is reality in such situations. The MSM was chomping at the bit to destroy him and his Presidency, and he gave them the opportunity on a golden platter by not returning to DC BEFORE Katrina hit.

Then he made it worse by not addressing the insane allegations and assertions.

Even Rove admits in his book they fucked this up big time. Not the response itself, as you note it was as good as could be done, by any nation, given 90,000 square miles were utterly destroyed. But Bush let the leftwingnuts in the media spin this into something it clearly, in hindsight, wasn't.

Biggest single mistake of his Presidency as it relates to 'Leadership' in my view.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   9:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Padlock, Boofer (#23)

#3. To: Padlock, Boofer (#2) Now that you both of you liars have given yourselves enough rope, here's what really happened and when...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war posted on 2010-05-20 9:54:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#24)

As I said on the other thread, that only CONFIRMS what I said earlier.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: no gnu taxes (#20) (Edited)

He dithered and waited until to it was impossible to evacuate to declare a mandatory evacuation because he was worried about the political ramifications of disrupting lodging and restaurant businesses. This as a category 5 hurricane i

On Saturday it was Cat 3. Sunday AM it went from Cat 4 to 5 in 5 hours and he immediately thereafter made the evacuation mandatory. Once it was Cat 5, he did not dither at all. So unless you have an alternate definition of "confirm" so that it does NOT mean "verify" it confirms only that you are fulll shit.

Blanco declared an emergency before FatAss Barbour did.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#26)

Sunday AM it went from Cat 4 to 5 in 5 hours and he immediately thereafter made the evacuation mandatory.

Less than 24 hours before the hurricane hit. It would have been impossible to evacuate the city, and in fact, no real effort was made. And the delay was most certainly caused by his concern about shutting down businesses.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: no gnu taxes (#27)

So now you're defending him.

Good.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#28)

It wasn't a defense.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: no gnu taxes (#29)

You claimed that he dithered with a Ct 5 Hurrican bearing down. As soon as it was upgraded to Cat 5, which was less than 24 hours before landfall, he acted.

It could ONLY be a defense.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#30)

splitting hairs

What was New Orleans contingency plan for evacuating the city? There should be one for even a Cat 3. In fact by the time the storm hit NO, it was only a Cat 3 or Cat 4.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: no gnu taxes (#31)

splitting hairs

I'm quoting YOU and applying YOUR standards, Paddy. So, if anyone is splitting hairs...

In fact by the time the storm hit NO, it was only a Cat 3 or Cat 4.

So then what did it matter and how does it obviate tha documented feeble response from the Feds for the largest FEDERALLY controlled waterport of entry?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#32)

The Federal response wasn't feeble, no matter how much you and the other lefties keep wanting to repeat that spin.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   10:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#33)

Chuckles...even the GOP knew it was feeble, Paddy. They were all over Boy Blunder and Chertoff to get off of their asses and do something.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   10:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war, badeye (#10)

Hey guys, how's life? I'm afraid i've lost some of the energy needed for constant online carping, but who knows, I may get it back!

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-20   13:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AlBundy (#35)

Mines doing pretty good all things considered AB.

For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-20   14:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Boofer, ALBundy (#36) (Edited)

Mines [sic] doing pretty good all things considered AB.

Chyea...besides the fact that your business is going tits up because you're clueless as a businessman, you're ugly and you're only marketable skill is that you might be able to type fast, it's going REAL good, eh?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-20   18:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#37) (Edited)

Chyea...besides the fact that your business is going tits up because you're clueless as a businessman, you're ugly and you're only marketable skill is that you might be able to type fast, it's going REAL good, eh?

Boofer already has some feelers out in the job market. The problem is, he won't accept a job that pays him what's he's worth.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-20   18:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war, badeye (#37)

OK, I need to know. How did you both end up here? And what is this forum? the successor of some from the past?

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-20   20:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AlBundy (#39)

OK, I need to know. How did you both end up here? And what is this forum? the successor of some from the past?

You may want to visit this forum:

http://libertypost.org/

and do some post searches

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-05-20   21:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: no gnu taxes (#40)

Come on, don't make me work! Tell me what happened.

;)

AlBundy  posted on  2010-05-20   23:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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