Not a classical liberal like Jefferson. But a modern day commie liberal like Obama.
If you mean liberal as in inacting a thuggish police state and needing to keep the populace in the dark like mushrooms, I can't think of one poster here who acts like Obama other than Jethro Tull.
Murron: "Answer me this... "Do you believe we should 'share the wealth'?"
War: "That is a push question intended to provoke a sophomoric reaction to however I respond. Do I believe in a common weal? I do indeed. So did the Founders."
You believe in a common "weasel." Like your answer.
This isn't a courtroom, pal. It was a simple question about that you've proven incapable of answering honestly or forthrightly.
The Founders were NOT Communists. Your "common well" nonsense is Marxist Ivy League bullsh*t.
As to your claim that Murron's question was "intended to provoke sophomoric reaction," is there a reason you expected ridicule? What should it matter to a Socialist statist of principle like you?
I will lay odds that this bimbo doesn't know who Horatio Bunce is, or read 'Not Yours To Give', let alone understand any of it...
Did Horatio Bunce hire illegal aliens 'cause they were desperate enough to work cheap without benefits and then complain when his taxes were raised to pay for his employee's hospitalization for a condition that could have been prevented by an office visit with a GP?
Actually coveting others property and theft have been around since the beginning. It just used to be called a sin.
Matthew 25:34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
Why are you complaining? Don't you have access to enough cheap donuts and potato chips? Isn't Tee-bee free? Are you safe and warm in your abode? Is your water hot?
Please, ask that at a Tea Party event.
Nice spin.
Your equation is spun thusly:
You want me to ask those at a Tea Party event why they don't like subsidizing you, illegal invaders, special people, the fat & lazy, and foreign debt nations with their already high taxes more than they already are?
Rich.
Communism and Socialism hadn't been thought up at the time of the founding of the US.
What makes you think the politicians and you Leftists have the authority to impose socialism and communism upon We the People?
My father was a union member and anything but lazy. He retired at 68 and died in August at the age of 91.
Big Whoop.
My father was also in a Union. According to him, it was a racket then, and it's still a racket.
Why do you think you're entitled to the services of another human being at pay that isn't sufficient for him to support himself and his family?
The market of services and goods speaks for itself; has ALWAYS.
Supporting oneself is a personal responsibility, Comrade. NOT a collective one. The Constitution guarantees the pursuit of happiness and opportunity; not a Cocktail Party and paying job.
Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor. Thomas Jefferson said that.
And thus this means Jefferson was an anti-Capitalist and pro-Communist? Or "the haves must subsidize the have-nots"?
Do you realize roughly half of all Americans didn't pay ANY taxes this past year? Isn't this wrong??
Proverbs: "He who works his land will have abundant food, but he who chases fantasies lacks judgment" (12:11).
One reason is that everyone who has anything to do with the aspirin has to make a profit from the manufacturer to the hospital to the insurance provider who contracts to pay just a portion of the cost of the aspirin. Second, Maria Hernandez-Jones isn't paid enough at her job as hotel maid to pay for her own aspirin and the hotel doesn't provide health insurance.
And thirdly, Senora Hernandez-Jones is an unauthorized parasite from Mexico who is stealing resources and birthright from Americans who have paid for their own in blood and sweat...
And lastly, the hospital which is required by law to treat EVERYONE - including illegal invading parasites - must pay for all the doctors, nurses, drugs, maintenance workers, lights, and rent. This makes the $0.10 aspirin cost $50 bucks, and the hospital room cost $800 per day.
Boy Blunder personally oversaw the Executive Branch PudBoy. I expect Obama to totally undo the manner in which Boy Blunder wholly screwed the pooch while so overseeing.
More meaningless prattle, which is all that can really be expected from you.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
No, Communism and Socialism hadn't been thought up at the time of the founding of the US.
Nor had Capitalism. The colonies and early US were distinctly mercantilist and the intellects of the time, including Hanmilton, first Sec Treas, students of Colbert rather than Smith. It was kind of a Keyenes v. Laffer dynamic.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
As if we'd take your word...post your long form BC or be branded a liar and an illegal alien.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Why post it Tic? I'll take you to it. I needed to present it the the NYPD prior to appointment in '68. I was born in Brooklyn and if you want to meet me - anytime - at the NYC Dept of Vital Records (you buy lunch) I'll be happy to show you. I imagine you take the LIRR from your hovel to your job (g), right?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.61;52;Samuel Adams
Do you realize roughly half of all Americans didn't pay ANY taxes this past year? Isn't this wrong??
Thomas Jefferson didn't think so.
The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. ... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings. --Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1811. ME 13:41
Apparently Jefferson was fine with progressive taxation too.
Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1785. ME 19:18, Papers 8:682
That aside, it is just not true that "half of all Americans didn't pay ANY taxes this past year". Here, in California, we have a sales tax that is darn close to 10%. The price of a gallon of gas includes a federal tax as well as sales tax.
Further, if you believe that "corporations don't pay taxes, people do" because the corporation's tax burden, including payroll taxes are passed on to the consumer in the price of a product or service, then all those little people you hold in contempt are most likely paying your taxes too.
And thirdly, Senora Hernandez-Jones is an unauthorized parasite from Mexico who is stealing resources and birthright from Americans who have paid for their own in blood and sweat...
How did Hernandez-Jones get her hyphenated name? Is she married to an American citizen?
And lastly, the hospital which is required by law to treat EVERYONE - including illegal invading parasites - must pay for all the doctors, nurses, drugs, maintenance workers, lights, and rent. This makes the $0.10 aspirin cost $50 bucks, and the hospital room cost $800 per day.
That's not entirely true. For instance, if a surgeon charges $3,000 for a particular operation and the insurance provider contracts to pay $1,500, then the surgeon must raise his rate to $6,000 to get what he wants, $3,000.
It was funny back then; the 'neighborhood' was your world. You rarely left it as a kid. I was lucky enough to have watched games at the Polo Grounds (say hey Willie) & Yankee Stadium, hell I even saw the Chicago Cubs (with a young Ernie Banks at SS) at Ebbets Field ('57?). All in all, I wouldn't change a thing about having grown up in NYC. Now? Not so much. It's a turd world dive, much like ALL of California.
I grieve for what they have done to our land, but the last act in this war has not been written.
When it is, they will be lucky if the quill pen uses their cold drying blood as ink to record it.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.61;52;Samuel Adams
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Hey watch out...he'll pat his chest and remind you that he packs meat er heat...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Felatorator sticking around? Has he figured out I have him on bozo yet?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
You are perverting God's word and Scripture to support theft, greed, and covetousness, and lies.
The Bible clearly states that people who are better off have a responsibility to the poor, and the consequences for not fulfilling that responsibility are dire.
It's not my problem that you view carrying out what the Bible teaches as "theft, greed, and covetousness".
Excuse me, a buell et yer banana, but did he munch your pathetic pea sized balls while he was at it too?
What cow patty did you crawl out from under to get here?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.61;52;Samuel Adams
Son, I will only note your passing, not your sexual relations with an over rated TV clown.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.61;52;Samuel Adams
What did Jesus say about a rich man, a camel and the eye of the needle
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
The Bible clearly states that people who are better off have a responsibility to the poor, and the consequences for not fulfilling that responsibility are dire.
Seperation of Church and State sure is tossed out the window whenever it suits the clowns on the Left's purposes...(chuckle)
Your keyboard missing it's backspace key? No? That post was a prime example of hiw it could work for you.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
You are the whore who mis-spelled what he is when you signed up here to use your true life label as an account name.
So, you are whining about what? Your mom not getting enough Mexican semen to rub on her face sores she gets from picking her meth mites?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.61;52;Samuel Adams
China boy, you barely can read, and can't even color within the lines when you work on your barbie coloring books.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.61;52;Samuel Adams
Could you have strung your words together with any more disparate randomness?
We already have Padlock here doing that.
You should stuck to being an internet tough guy. You're much cuter that way
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Second, Maria Hernandez-Jones isn't paid enough at her job as hotel maid to pay for her own aspirin and the hotel doesn't provide health insurance.
You are clueless. I personally know illegal Hispanic people with family incomes of more than $100,000 a year and receive free medical care, WIC, TANF, and get back much bigger refunds on their taxes than what what they paid in (under report their income and get EITC and other benefits).