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Title: Wally Hickel and Sarah Palin's Betrayal
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoff ... kel-and-sarah-pa_b_569419.html
Published: May 9, 2010
Author: Geoffrey Dunn
Post Date: 2010-05-09 21:17:28 by Skip Intro
Keywords: None
Views: 40237
Comments: 124

Wally Hickel and Sarah Palin's Betrayal

The death of Walter J. "Wally" Hickel (1919-2010) in Anchorage this past Friday marks the end of a remarkable era, not only in Alaska, but throughout the entire United States.

The two-time Governor of the Last Frontier (elected once as a Republican in the 1960s, the second time as an Independent in 1990) and former U.S. Secretary of the Interior under Richard Nixon was a larger than life figure, a legend in his own time, whose driving ambitions and relentless personal energy helped to both shape and define Alaska's 50 years of statehood. He had arrived in Anchorage in 1940 with 37 cents in his pocket, and it proved to be all the stake he would ever need. His robust spirit and seemingly boundless energy assured his success, not only in Alaska's bare-knuckle politics, but in the arenas of business and public policy as well.

Born in Kansas in 1919, Hickel was raised in an era when a handshake secured a deal and a commitment still meant something. He was a casual friend of my great uncle, an Italian fish vendor from California of the same generation, and they lived their lives under a code of conduct defined by integrity and an unyielding loyalty to friends and allies. Hickel was forced out of the Nixon White House after criticizing Nixon's handling of student protests during the Vietnam War. "Regardless of how I, or any American, might feel individually, we have an obligation as leaders to communicate with our youth and listen to their ideas and problems," he wrote. He refused to compromise his personal ethics.

I spent a fascinating morning with Hickel this past summer, in the office of his downtown Anchorage landmark, the Captain Cook Hotel, and he was every bit as dignified and gracious as he was when I first encountered him 35 years earlier in Anchorage, then a raw and wild oil town.

As he approached his 90th birthday, his grip was still strong and his "boomer" vision of Alaska remained his passion. A former boxer, he looked like he could still go a few rounds and I wouldn't want to cross him. He may have lost some of his intellectual edge after nine decades, but his spirit remained undaunted, his eyes bright, particularly when his bride of 67 years, Ermalee, later joined us in the conversation.

Hickel was still pushing his vision of an "owner state"--articulated in his book Crisis in the Commons: The Alaska Solution--and he remained upbeat about the possibilities facing Alaska. He was convinced that the "Age of the Artic" was still ahead and he still believed in "big ideas."

But when I asked Hickel about then governor Sarah Palin, his disposition turned hard. Hickel had played a major role in her victory as governor in the 2006 election--his stamp of approval went a long way toward getting her elected--and he expected a place at the table with the young governor as she was set to guide Alaska into the New Millenium.

In the immediate aftermath of Palin's election, however, Palin cast Hickel aside. As anyone who has ever worked with or for Sarah Palin knows full well, her capacity for deceit and betrayal knows no bounds. She stabbed Hickel in the back.

As a result, Hickel viewed Palin with personal disdain, describing her "political opportunism" in the most condemnatory terms possible. He had lost all respect for her. She "used" him like she would use many other patrons as she scratched and lied her way to a strange form of national political celebrity, and Hickel was not afraid to call it like he saw it. He was not bitter--he was a much bigger man than that--but at the same time, he was not afraid to show his disgust. "I don't give a damn about her," he told me.

I found his candor refreshing. Not only did he view Palin as a political parvenu, he viewed her as a puppet. "She's not her own woman," he said to me several times. He was strongly opposed to her plans for a TransCanada pipeline--he did not believe it would ever be built--and he championed instead an All Alaska gas-line project from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez. In a stinging opinion piece he wrote a year ago this week, he declared, "If I were governor, we would start building the All-Alaska gas line tomorrow. All it takes is some guts and a decision."

It didn't take much to read between those lines.

When I asked him for a formal, on-the-record response to Palin's stunted career as governor, he took a deep pause. "She fell in love with the national spotlight and lost her ethical compass," he said thoughtfully. "That was a sad day for Alaska and America."

In the aftermath of Palin's resignation, Hickel wrote a prescient opinion piece for the Anchorage Daily News (where he was a regular contributor until just last month), in which he expressed his criticism of Palin for being a polarizing figure along both class and racial lines during the national campaign. He urged her "to rise above the worn-out, negative tactics of presidential politics and assume the role of stateswoman."

While acknowledging his initial support for Palin's nomination, he expressed his horror at the divisive nature of her political rhetoric:

Palin became the spokesperson for the divisive voices in American politics. She dismissed the greatness of our immigrant heritage, indeed of today's Alaska, where in Anchorage alone nearly 100 languages are spoken in the homes of the children in our public schools.

Not surprisingly, Palin did not dignify Hickel's passing with a formal acknowledgment on her Facebook page, but instead issued a shameful and shallow "reflection" on Twitter in her distinctive Palinese:

Upon his passing,we honor Gov Walter Hickel's life,he made real difference in the world.Unsurpassed impacts on Alaska,the Arctic&her people[sic]

That was it. Palin was well aware of Hickel's disdain, and she could not rise above her pettiness to issue the formal acknowledgment that his life and career warranted.

Indeed, these two figures represent the anithesis of Arctic politics. Whereas Hickel was a man whose destiny was always greater that his own, Palin's has always been wrapped up in her own self-interest. Whereas Palin is all about style, Hickel was a man of substance. In the end, the shadow of his political legacy in the Last Frontier will forever loom long beyond that of Sarah Palin's. His was real and transcendent--while hers is small and remains nothing but a fantasy.

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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

I haven't the patience to read this boring crap, but can we agree Palin is an oaf with tits?

Tull  posted on  2010-05-09   21:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tull (#1)

Yes we can agree on that.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-09   21:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tull (#1)

I assume you aren't the psycho cop Tull who controls christine at 4um.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-09   22:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

Fred, don't take this personally, but you need a new brain. The ponies eat gray matter.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-09   22:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Skip Intro (#3) (Edited)

I control myself (to the best of my ability) and have zero desire to control anyone else. I believe in freedom, in person and state.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-09   22:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tull (#4)

No, I don't agree with you on that.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   0:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Skip Intro (#0)

Geoffrey Dunn

Left-wing buffoon and Obama penis sucker, just like you skippy!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-10   2:20:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Skip Intro (#3)

He is one in the same. Confirmed and verified.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-10   7:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Skip Intro (#0)

In the immediate aftermath of Palin's election, however, Palin cast Hickel aside. As anyone who has ever worked with or for Sarah Palin knows full well, her capacity for deceit and betrayal knows no bounds. She stabbed Hickel in the back.

As a result, Hickel viewed Palin with personal disdain, describing her "political opportunism" in the most condemnatory terms possible.

I am not Palin's biggest fan,but it sounds to me like this WW-2 and Korean War draft dodger is describing himself. He thinks he deserved a seat at the trough because he helped her get elected,and had a hissy-fit because she didn't play his game.

Who knows how much money he lost in gas line kickbacks and dividends because she shut him out?

Fuck him and the insiders horse he rode in on.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-05-10   7:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#8)

Did someone take the screen name "cunt" so he couldn't use it?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   8:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#8)

He is one in the same. Confirmed and verified.

He must be on a vigil from God to get the one or two posters he considers Obama supporters banned from here. Poor Lucysmom is in for it.... I really can't think of another.

But all non bushbot rah rahs will be on his list. As he ordained on 4um, the lesser of two evils is the appropriate vote now to get rid of the Obama scourage.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   12:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lucysmom (#11)

I forgot to ping you to post #11.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   12:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tull, A K A Stone (#5)

You are some piece of work....

"Stone, I know u can't answer me now, but I DID remove your tag, and I also booted your Christian ass off this forum." ~ Jethro Tull

Murron  posted on  2010-05-10   12:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#12)

I forgot to ping you to post #11.

Thank you (I think).

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   14:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Murron (#13)

"Stone, I know u can't answer me now, but I DID remove your tag, and I also booted your Christian ass off this forum." ~ Jethro Tull

Stoner got the boot from 4um?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   14:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

Either that or Tull once again validated that he's a cunt.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   14:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Murron, mininggold, lucysmom (#13)

Okay, I found the thread:

freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/re...ArtNum=117827&Disp=65#C65


#56. To: A K A Stone (#55)

Adios duffel head

Jethro Tull posted on 2010-05-09 13:05:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#57. To: Jethro Tull (#54)

Quit sending me PM's complaining that you are not a stormfronter and to please remove that comment.

A K A Stone posted on 2010-05-09 13:05:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   14:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#9)

Fuck him and the insiders horse he rode in on.

He's dead, Jim.

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-10   14:59:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#16)

I guess he has moderator status over there. I thought he pulled strings but didn't realize he had keyboard power. Typical cop. Give him a uniform and some power and then watch out!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   15:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz, Murron, A K A Stone (#15)

Stoner got the boot from 4um?

Why would anyone want to hang around those faggots? Consider yourself better off, Stoney!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-10   15:02:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Skip Intro (#0)

He may have lost some of his intellectual edge

(laughing)

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-10   15:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

guess he has moderator status over there. I thought he pulled strings but didn't realize he had keyboard power. Typical cop. Give him a uniform and some power and then watch out!

Watch it! He wears his feelings on his sleeves. And he's been hiding behind skirts for so long he probably doesn't realize he is actually on his own over here.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   15:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

Back on the old lucianne forum [stolybreath.com], there was a night time moderator - Graybear - who used to banish posters for disagreeing. Puts my banning @ 4um in perspective.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   15:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#22)

I doubt he'll play over here very long. No one will kiss his butt, quite the contrary. He needs his nice, warm echo chamber at 4um. I guess he probably banned me too from there now that I see he's been given mod powers.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   15:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#23)

Puts my banning @ 4um in perspective.

Yeah, I just put two and two together as I was banned at the same time.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   15:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Fred Mertz (#17)

Okay, I found the thread:

That Flintlock sure sounds like 22rifle, the eternal Bushbot sidekick.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   15:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

Hey Fredo, you quit after people got tired of BS's leftist posting and he got the boot. Now get you head out of your horses ass and try to cobble together a rational thought.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   15:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold, war (#26)

Did you see where Tull gave him an hour and a half to remove his libertysflame tag line? And then Tull removed it himself within 45 minutes and banned him in less than an hour.

The power really went to his head. And then he says Stoner can return if he grovels back to that shitty treatment. christine wouldn't normally do anything like that for a little heated exchange...oh well, her problem.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   15:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

Sounds like a cunt to me.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   15:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Tull (#27)

Hey Fredo, you quit after people got tired of BS's leftist posting and he got the boot.

I challenged Brian S's banning when I learned of it. I got banned. I didn't quit.

I'd do the same for any reasonable poster I'd seen for over many years online, including Badeye...even if I disagree with him most the time.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   15:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

Here u go Fredo.......

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   15:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Fred Mertz (#30)

I'd do the same for any reasonable poster

BS isn't a "reasonable poster" he's a leftist d'bag. And that's what makes you Fredo, Fredo.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   15:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Tull (#32)

That makes you a closed minded twit.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   15:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Fred Mertz (#33)

You and Brian S got banned from freedumb4em? Knew about the anti groupie, but you two?

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-10   15:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz, Tull, war, mininggold, skippy, BrianS, (#33)

That makes you a closed minded twit.

You're all a bunch of whining PUSSIES!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-10   15:40:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Fred Mertz (#33)

That makes you a closed minded twit.

bahaaa....

What a lame reply :P

Did you rip that one off from the latest Oprah show??

Fredo, you are fast climbing the Internet's Ladder of Idiots.

Keep it up, boy.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   15:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#30) (Edited)

I challenged Brian S's banning when I learned of it. I got banned. I didn't quit.

I'd do the same for any reasonable poster I'd seen for over many years online, including Badeye...even if I disagree with him most the time.

Leave it to a troll to spin the reason for a posters' banning when it's there for all to see.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   15:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Badeye (#34)

At least I was able to register there. You couldn't get in the door.

In retrospect, you probably made out better on that one.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   15:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#23)

Puts my banning @ 4um in perspective.

You got banned?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   15:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Badeye (#34)

You and Brian S got banned from freedumb4em? Knew about the anti groupie, but you two?

Trull was objecting to some of Brian's articles, as not goose stepping high enough.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   15:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mininggold (#37)

Oh you're just mad at me because you live (with your Mommy) in a state that is an open boil on the ass of America.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   15:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#39) (Edited)

Yea...can you believe it? I'm smart, witty, good looking and make a mean Marguerita. Why ban me?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   15:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mininggold (#40)

Trull was objecting to some of Brian's articles, as not goose stepping high enough.

commissar n. An official of the Communist Party in charge of political indoctrination and the enforcement of party loyalty.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   15:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#43)

Nope. Think due west of there.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   15:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mininggold (#37)

Leave it to a troll to spin the reason for a posters' banning when it's there for all to see.

Delirium tremens, I suspect, cause you to see and hear lots of unusual things.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   15:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#44)

What's the "western" version of commissar?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   15:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: lucysmom (#46) (Edited)

Fuhrer.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   15:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war (#42)

Yea...can you believe it? I'm smart, witty, good looking and make a mean Marguerita.

What's positive to some is a threat to others.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   16:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war (#47)

Sounds grandiose.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   16:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom (#49)

Indubitably...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   16:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Tull (#45)

What's up with banning posters on one site and then going to another site to engage the posters you've banned? Doesn't make sense to me.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   16:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: mininggold (#40)

Hmmm. The anti groupie always ends up being banned, but I have to admit I'm surprised by Brian S and Freddie.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-10   16:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Badeye (#52) (Edited)

The anti groupie always ends up being banned

You should be proud...having something in common with me...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-10   16:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#51) (Edited)

What's up with banning posters on one site and then going to another site to engage the posters you've banned? Doesn't make sense to me.

Stone invited me.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   16:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: lucysmom (#51) (Edited)

What's up with banning posters on one site and then going to another site to engage the posters you've banned? Doesn't make sense to me.

He's wearing his Tea Party allegiance on his sleeve. And he knows he's safe 'cause none can follow him over there and find what skirt he's hiding behind. LOLOL

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   16:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Tull (#54)

Stone invited me.

That's the answer to "Who invited you?", not "Why did you show up".

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-10   16:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Tull (#54)

Get the fuck out of here. You're not welcome here.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Fred Mertz (#57)

My, my Fredo. Is this a new, scary you? It's not working if it is.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Fred Mertz (#57)

Get the fuck out of here. You're not welcome here.

As it hasn't got an original idea in it's pointy little bureaucrat head just Bozo it.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   22:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Badeye (#52)

After 10 years of posting I was banned from one site - FR circa 2004, no regrets.

I got banned from 4um a few months ago. The jack boot apparently did it. Again, no regrets.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: lucysmom (#56)

"Why did you show up".

Again, because I was invited.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#59)

Probably I should. christine has lost her grip on that web site.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Fred Mertz (#62) (Edited)

Yes do that because I'm here to stay and make mince meat out of the left wing cell that you hold near and dear. So off you ya' goofball. Anyone who takes Pitt football seriously is a tad on the 'tard side.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Fred Mertz (#62)

Probably I should. christine has lost her grip on that web site.

4um is the only site I have ever been banned from. lol

I was subtly warned by two posters there that the two sacred cows are Tull and Cynicon.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   22:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: mininggold (#64)

That site is a joke. I visit it for the headlines. I like a good number of people over there, but jackboot laid down the law.

LOLOL

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#64)

The only sacred cows are support for an American First agenda and a rejection of the political left. You failed on both counts.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Fred Mertz (#65)

yes, I gladly booted your ass Fredo. When u took up for BS the O'PILE, that was simply too much. So, just deal with it, OK?

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Tull (#66)

The only sacred cows are support for an American First agenda and a rejection of the political left.

Huh?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Tull (#67)

Bret never booted me. christine wouldn't have booted me.

But you're a jackboot. lolol

It is all there to see.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Fred Mertz (#69)

Hey dim bulb. YES, I booted you. You jumped into the middle of the BS ban, which was well earned. No offense, but you really are sloooow.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Fred Mertz (#65)

I like a good number of people over there, but jackboot laid down the law.

And in the name of "conservatism" by urban law enforcement bureaucrats.

Isn't this what Goldi practices, the banning of all other opinions in order to preserve free speech. It's just too funny.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   22:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Fred Mertz (#68)

The only sacred cows are support for an American First agenda and a rejection of the political left.

Which part confuses you, Fredo?

Or perhaps you simply don't agree that a forum should put forward such antiquated ideals.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#71)

Yes it is. The pig banned me. I thought it was christine's site. lolol

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: mininggold (#11)

He must be on a vigil from God to get the one or two posters he considers Obama supporters banned from here.

He thinks that about every poster here except for gump and Stone.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-10   22:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Fred Mertz (#73)

I thought it was christine's site. lolol

Not any more.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-10   22:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mininggold (#71)

Isn't this what Goldi practices,

Wrong, sot.

Neither Goldi or Robinson ever bothered to face those they banned as I am doing, and I must admit, y'all have reinforced my decision. Hell, I even banned Stone, but he probably just had a bad day.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   22:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mininggold (#71)

Isn't this what Goldi practices, the banning of all other opinions in order to preserve free speech.

Yes. I haven't been banned from there yet.

christine should be ashamed of what her site has become.

Hey Tull, say hi to critter, O_I, former lurker, and a few others from me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Fred Mertz (#73)

Yes it is. The pig banned me. I thought it was christine's site. lolol

I haven't checked to see if she has updated her mission statement by disclosing that the site is now moderated by an alleged ex NYPD LEO. I can imagine that would run off a few prospects, as we all known how close they are tied to the FBI with their incessant need to collect data.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   22:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Tull (#76)

Hell, I even banned Stone, but he probably just had a bad day.

That says everything about your judgment.

I guess you don't know a banning is a serious thing.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   22:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Fred Mertz (#77)

I think the one person over there who was the kindest to me over the years has been Lod, he sent me a laser mouse a few years ago, I'll never forget him for that.

Murron  posted on  2010-05-10   23:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Fred Mertz (#79)

That says everything about your judgment.

I guess you don't know a banning is a serious thing.

You need to just Bozo it, it's no longer your friend.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-10   23:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Murron (#80)

Yes, Lod is another one I got along with. I hate to use the past tense but I was banned by a cop from Jerkwater, PA.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   23:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Fred Mertz (#79)

I guess you don't know a banning is a serious thing.

Nothing is too good for Ds & socialists.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   23:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Murron (#80)

Were you banned from there also?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   23:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Fred Mertz (#77)

Hey Tull, say hi to critter, O_I, former lurker, and a few others from me.

Reinstate yourself and say hello when u want.

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   23:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Tull (#85)

You won't last here beyond this weekend. I guarantee it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   23:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Fred Mertz (#86)

Shall we bet?

Tull  posted on  2010-05-10   23:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Fred Mertz (#84)

Lets just say after fu, I wasn't welcome...no big deal!

Murron  posted on  2010-05-10   23:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Murron (#88)

Let me know if you want to meet up at Churchill Downs in a few weeks. You know why.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-10   23:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Fred Mertz (#89)

Sorry to hear you were banned from 4UM Fredo, miss seeing your ugly horse stink of a carcass.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-05-11   0:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Murron (#88)

I know you missed me. Please, control yourself; no swooning.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-05-11   0:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Fred Mertz (#89)

Opps, forgot about the pie. There, much better.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-05-11   0:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: FredJerx, Tull (#57)

#57. To: Tull (#54)

Get the fuck out of here. You're not welcome here.

Fred Mertz posted on 2010-05-10 22:14:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Piss off Jerx......want to make the rules get that stallions last foot out of your exhaust pipe and set up your own site......bwwwaaaahhhhhaaaaaa!!!!

Just imagine the sludge that'll line your membership huh???

Welcome Tull....anyone opposite the lockstepping floorlicking neanderthal brownshirt obamatards that stink up AKA's site (thinking they make the entry rules) has GOT to be welcome here.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy...AKA Admiral Dwarf who has "shot at living things"...."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-05-11   2:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Fred Mertz (#60)

I know.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-11   9:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mininggold (#64)

I was subtly warned by two posters there that the two sacred cows are Tull and Cynicon.

Do you believe Cynicom is who he represents himself to be. I suspect he isn't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-11   10:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: A K A Stone (#95)

Cynicom

He couldn't take LP because he routinely had his arguments ridiculed.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-11   10:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone (#95)

Cynicom

He's a pompous cuss.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-11   10:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: A K A Stone (#95)

Do you believe Cynicom is who he represents himself to be. I suspect he isn't.

He said he worked for the FBI and various other LE agencies much like your manipulative newest invite.

I do believe that the Bushees and political groups hired lots of opinion shapers to massage the medium called the internet. A couple of TANGI's a few years back told me that when out in the community they were contacted by companies and offered the free use of computers and a small salary to go on the internet and post crap. Neither took up the offers.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-11   11:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: mininggold (#98)

I do believe that the Bushees and political groups hired lots of opinion shapers to massage the medium called the internet.

Hard to get through the day without a conspiracy theory, isn't it kookie?

(laughing)

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-11   11:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Badeye (#99)

Hard to get through the day without a conspiracy theory, isn't it kookie?

It's a proven one and already caught a fish.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-05-11   11:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#91)

"I know you missed me. Please, control yourself; no swooning."

TRAITORS

Murron  posted on  2010-05-11   11:37:29 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Murron (#101)

Did you tie that knot yourself?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-11   11:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: mininggold (#98)

Neil pegged the Boofer as a paid poster. It certainly explained more than left open for questioning.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-11   11:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Murron (#101)

Looks like the noose a silly goose like you would tie. A noose is supposed to have 13 wraps.

Do better next time, you will be graded on how well you do this.

Also, for a fathead like you love, you need to double up the neck loop.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-05-11   18:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Ferret Mike (#104)

"Looks like the noose a silly goose like you would tie. A noose is supposed to have 13 wraps."

You're right, it's 13 for women, 10 for leftwing, tree hugging faggots....

"And the Secret Service is in the modus to investigate the remotest possibility of a threat environment endangering someone on their 'A' list of whom they look out for".~ Corn Flake Girl aka Ferret Mike

Murron  posted on  2010-05-11   18:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Murron (#105)

hee hee, sure thing, fatso. Frankly love, I would not care a bit if I had turned out that way. Homosexuals do not bother me.

So you did the absolutely expected, I am shocked.... not. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-05-11   18:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Tull, Fred Mertz (#87)

Shall we bet?

You won Fred. The pussy went and changed his id here again.

That makes three so far by my count.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-11   19:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Skip Intro (#107)

I changed one of his names to Jethro Tull. I didn't tell him so he made another one. He found out and started using Jethro Tull. No problem.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-11   19:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: A K A Stone (#108)

What about 20 Percent Unemployment? Wasn't he using that at the same time he was posting here as Jethro Tull?

"#1. To: 20 Percent Unemployment (#0)

Same IP as Jethro Tull. Go away asswipe.

A K A Stone posted on 2010-05-09 14:16:47 ET"

It looks like you didn't have to invite him here after all. He was here already.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-11   19:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Skip Intro (#109) (Edited)

I switched the name 20 percent on him to Jethro Tull. If you notice all those posts by 20 percent are now attached to Jethro Tull. He didn't know I did that so he made a new name "tull".

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-11   19:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: lucysmom (#51)

What's up with banning posters on one site and then going to another site to engage the posters you've banned? Doesn't make sense to me.

It would if you were a sociopath.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-11   19:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: A K A Stone (#110)

If you notice all those posts by 20 percent are now attached to Jethro Tull.

Which shows he's been here since January.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-11   19:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#106)

Homosexuals do not bother me.

Especially when they are behind you!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-11   19:54:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Skip Intro (#112)

I hope he slithers away. He will in due time.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-11   22:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Fredo Mertz (#114)

No way Fredo....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-11   22:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Fred Mertz (#114)

I hope he slithers away. He will in due time.

He's hoping Stone will give him access to the ban button like he has at 4um.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-11   22:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Skip Intro (#116)

I can't believe Stoner let him here since he banned Stoney at 4um.

What a soap opera...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-11   22:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Fred Mertz (#117)

I can't believe Stoner let him here since he banned Stoney at 4um.

He was already here using the name 20 Percent Unemployment. He's been here since January.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-11   22:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Skip Intro (#118)

He'll soon be gone.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-11   22:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Fredo Mertz (#119)

He'll soon be gone.

No way Jose. Stone begged me to come, and here I be! Ask him.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-11   22:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Jethro Tull (#120)

Stone begged me to come, and here I be!

But you were already here. You lied to Stone.

oh, forgot. bout your dead mom. You don't have her propped up in the sun room, ala Bates in Psycho, do you? (chuckle) - Boofer

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-11   23:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Jethro Tull (#120)

I wouldn't say i begged you. I did ask you though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-11   23:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Fred Mertz (#117)

The more the merrier Fred. We all get mad sometimes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-11   23:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: A K A Stone (#123)

I'm not asking you to ban him. I'm just saying he's a fuckhead.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-11   23:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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