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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Science-Technology See other Science-Technology Articles Title: Fears For Crops As Shock Figures From America Show Scale Of Bee Catastrophe Source: GUARDIAN UK URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environme ... fear-mystery-beehives-collapse Published: May 4, 2010 Author: Alison Benjamin Post Date: 2010-05-04 12:55:33 by Brian S Keywords: None Views: 20690 Comments: 63 Disturbing evidence that honeybees are in terminal decline has emerged from the United States where, for the fourth year in a row, more than a third of colonies have failed to survive the winter. The decline of the country's estimated 2.4 million beehives began in 2006, when a phenomenon dubbed colony collapse disorder (CCD) led to the disappearance of hundreds of thousands of colonies. Since then more than three million colonies in the US and billions of honeybees worldwide have died and scientists are no nearer to knowing what is causing the catastrophic fall in numbers. The number of managed honeybee colonies in the US fell by 33.8% last winter, according to the annual survey by the Apiary Inspectors of America and the US government's Agricultural Research Service (ARS). The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to crops. It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon honeybee pollination, which means that bees contribute some £26bn to the global economy. Potential causes range from parasites, such as the bloodsucking varroa mite, to viral and bacterial infections, pesticides and poor nutrition stemming from intensive farming methods. The disappearance of so many colonies has also been dubbed "Mary Celeste syndrome" due to the absence of dead bees in many of the empty hives. US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of bees, wax and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides are a key problem. "We believe that some subtle interactions between nutrition, pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill colonies," said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS's bee research laboratory. A global review of honeybee deaths by the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE) reported last week that there was no one single cause, but pointed the finger at the "irresponsible use" of pesticides that may damage bee health and make them more susceptible to diseases. Bernard Vallat, the OIE's director-general, warned: "Bees contribute to global food security, and their extinction would represent a terrible biological disaster." Dave Hackenberg of Hackenberg Apiaries, the Pennsylvania-based commercial beekeeper who first raised the alarm about CCD, said that last year had been the worst yet for bee losses, with 62% of his 2,600 hives dying between May 2009 and April 2010. "It's getting worse," he said. "The AIA survey doesn't give you the full picture because it is only measuring losses through the winter. In the summer the bees are exposed to lots of pesticides. Farmers mix them together and no one has any idea what the effects might be." Pettis agreed that losses in some commercial operations are running at 50% or greater. "Continued losses of this magnitude are not economically sustainable for commercial beekeepers," he said, adding that a solution may be years away. "Look at Aids, they have billions in research dollars and a causative agent and still no cure. Research takes time and beehives are complex organisms." In the UK it is still too early to judge how Britain's estimated 250,000 honeybee colonies have fared during the long winter. Tim Lovett, president of the British Beekeepers' Association, said: "Anecdotally, it is hugely variable. There are reports of some beekeepers losing almost a third of their hives and others losing none." Results from a survey of the association's 15,000 members are expected this month. John Chapple, chairman of the London Beekeepers' Association, put losses among his 150 members at between a fifth and a quarter. Eight of his 36 hives across the capital did not survive. "There are still a lot of mysterious disappearances," he said. "We are no nearer to knowing what is causing them." Bee farmers in Scotland have reported losses on the American scale for the past three years. Andrew Scarlett, a Perthshire-based bee farmer and honey packer, lost 80% of his 1,200 hives this winter. But he attributed the massive decline to a virulent bacterial infection that quickly spread because of a lack of bee inspectors, coupled with sustained poor weather that prevented honeybees from building up sufficient pollen and nectar stores. The government's National Bee Unit has always denied the existence of CCD in Britain, despite honeybee losses of 20% during the winter of 2008-09 and close to a third the previous year. It attributes the demise to the varroa mite – which is found in almost every UK hive – and rainy summers that stop bees foraging for food. In a hard-hitting report last year, the National Audit Office suggested that amateur beekeepers who failed to spot diseases in bees were a threat to honeybees' survival and called for the National Bee Unit to carry out more inspections and train more beekeepers. Last summer MPs on the influential cross-party public accounts committee called on the government to fund more research into what it called the "alarming" decline of honeybees. The Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has contributed £2.5m towards a £10m fund for research on pollinators. The public accounts committee has called for a significant proportion of this funding to be "ring-fenced" for honeybees. Decisions on which research projects to back are expected this month. Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Brian S (#0) The government's National Bee Unit has always denied the existence of CCD in Britain, despite honeybee losses of 20% during the winter of 2008-09 and close to a third the previous year. That's strange. I've been following this news for about three years now about the honeybee problems. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   13:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Fred Mertz (#1) (Edited) Boofer will be along any moment to allay our fears. #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   13:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: war (#2) He seems to be an expert in every walk of life. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   13:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Fred Mertz (#1) (Edited) That's strange. I've been following this news for about three years now about the honeybee problems. One of my hives absconded as they call it. It swarmed twice in 10 days, leaving only an old queen and a few attendants. She died a couple of days later. The attendants probably went into another hive. We tried to lure in one of the swarms that stayed overnight about four feet off the ground on a peach tree branch into a bee trap. They went in then they flew out. I guess I need to ask Badeye for advice because the local county beekeeper couldn't offer any. Making the world safe for United Fruit. mininggold  posted on  2010-05-04   13:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: mininggold (#4) (Edited) My old uncle, bless his soul, was an amateur beekeeper. I know a queen bee is essential to each hive, I just don't know how one goes about getting one. I guess badeye should be able to clear that up for me. I vaguely remember my dad had a couple of hives when I was under ten, but I don't think we had much success with them. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   13:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Fred Mertz, Badeye (#3) He seems to be an expert in every walk of life. Plus he's an integral part of the company he co-owns, posts constantly on FR, LP, Facebook, and God knows where else, listens to talk radio and watches Fox News and sports all day, and is most likely the go-to guy for the Encyclopedia Britannica when they've got a particularly vexatious problem stumping their experts. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   13:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Fred Mertz (#5) I know a queen bee is essential to each hive, I just don't know how one goes about getting one. I guess badeye should be able to clear that up for me. You can buy them on the internet or from professional beekeepers, but hives make their own queen cells and they can be raided to provide queens for new hives. I knew we should have sprayed sugar water on the swarm, dropped them into a bucket and just put them back in the old hive but the beekeeper wanted to trap them and sell them to a student. They were a real docile strain. Making the world safe for United Fruit. mininggold  posted on  2010-05-04   13:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: mininggold (#7) Thanks. How much does a queen bee typically cost? It sounds like an interesting hobby. I think we have some beekeepers in the area and I should seek them out. They've got to be cheaper than thoroughbreds;^) Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   14:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Skip Intro (#6) I'm flattered you find me worthy of a insane fixation, skippy. My anti groupies obsessive nature is documented for over a decade now...yours is relatively new....(laughing) Ironic when I don't post a comment ya'll get goofy bout THAT. Make up your pinheads. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   14:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Skip Intro, Fred Mertz, Badeye (#6) Plus he's an integral part of the company he co-owns, posts constantly on FR, LP, Facebook, and God knows where else, listens to talk radio and watches Fox News and sports all day, and is most likely the go-to guy for the Encyclopedia Britannica when they've got a particularly vexatious problem stumping their experts. Poor skippy, just dripping with envy! (For obvious reasons)LOL! Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted? Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-04   14:37:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Skip Intro (#6) Oh, and I haven't posted on LP in years, skippy. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   14:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Ibluafartsky (#10) Poor skippy, just dripping with envy! (For obvious reasons)LOL! I don't mind. He's obviously housebound. So I guess I'm doing a public service, his tracking of my internet journey's keeps him from stealing grocery carts, and scaring middle aged women on downtown streets as he mutters incoherently from the gutter about conspiracy theories and the voices inside his head. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   14:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Boofer, Skip Intro (#12) He's obviously housebound. So I guess I'm doing a public service, his tracking of my internet journey's keeps him from stealing grocery carts, and scaring middle aged women on downtown streets as he mutters incoherently from the gutter about conspiracy theories and the voices inside his head. Um,...Boof...if he's "housebound" how's he scaring people in the streets? And btw, Boofer, when you slithered back, YOU informed everyone of where you had been posting... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   14:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: war, Skip Intro, Badeye (#13) YOU informed everyone of where you had been posting... Of course you two libfags, being conscientious posters, did in fact verify, correct? LOL! Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted? Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-04   14:47:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Badeye (#11) Oh, and I haven't posted on LP in years, skippy. You're right there. You got your ass thrown out. Then you went back to FR and whined about it for months. I apologize for the error. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   14:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Badeye (#9) I'm flattered you find me worthy of a insane fixation, skippy. What fixation? Unless I put you on bozo I can't help but see all the BS you post. Everything I posted about came right from you - except LP, which I admit was an error. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   14:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Badeye (#12) He's obviously housebound. That's pretty funny, considering who you're posting it to. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   14:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: Skip Intro (#15) He's STILL whining about it... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   14:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Fred Mertz (#8) (Edited) It sounds like an interesting hobby. I think we have some beekeepers in the area and I should seek them out. They've got to be cheaper than thoroughbreds;^) Definitely cheaper than thoroughbreds. The joke on the backstretch used to be the only people who profited were the vets and feed sellers. Bees do require a certain amount of time and upkeep but often you can get a beekeeper to do it for a nominal fee, for honey or for the queens. Fifteen to fifty dollars per queen is normal in my area. Sometimes more from hives with certain characteristics, like resistance to certain diseases and docility. Making the world safe for United Fruit. mininggold  posted on  2010-05-04   15:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: war (#18) And he still refers to Goldi by her real name....and that's what got him shitcanned from elPee...revealing other poster's names. He can be a real dickhead. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   15:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Skip Intro (#16) Everything I posted about came right from you - except LP, which I admit was an error. Badeye sees the admission of an error as a lethal weakness. Making the world safe for United Fruit. mininggold  posted on  2010-05-04   15:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: mininggold (#21) Badeye sees the admission of an error as a lethal weakness. That's because he has never made a mistake. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   15:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Skip Intro (#22) That's because he has never made a mistake. I bet his mother has his name tattoed on her arm like that Dos Equis guy's. lol Making the world safe for United Fruit. mininggold  posted on  2010-05-04   15:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: Ibluafartsky (#14) (chuckle) Apparently they have a weird fear of facebook. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   15:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Skip Intro (#15) Yes, I was 'thrown out' and in hindsight I was very lucky. I could have still been there when it went into full blown 'stormfront lite'. Not to mention the hostess was insane then. Interesting how many threads are popping up here demonstrating it this year. I've always been ahead of the curve...(grin) I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   15:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: Skip Intro (#16) Make up your mind, skippy. And ask somebody to explain how the filter works, cause if you used it correctly you'd never see my posts. Unless one of your fellow kooks is cutting and pasting them obsessively.... I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   15:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Boofer (#24) (Edited) Apparently they have a weird fear of facebook. #16. To: Abu el Banat (#0) Face Book would be more your speed. Start a Goldi is ugly page. ----------------------------------------------------------- Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in. WhiteSands posted on 2010-05-04 11:30:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply ***Think*** she meant that for you, Boof... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Fred Mertz (#20) Oh, Grammar King...everybody knows what happened. I returned fire with the same fire after asking Sally to put a stop to it for over 18 months. I didn't reveal other posters names, the site owners from other web forums fed up with them did...along with the infamous clown posse. I just noted the names, and when Sally didn't do her job as forum owner, after being warned repeatedly, I did unto kooks what kooks did unto me. I NEVER posted anyone's picture. Or address. Or contacted them at their place of work, or at their home. Never contacted county officials. Never wrote a review on Amazon (my personal kook favorite btw). But no matter. If I don't post here, ya'll whine about it. If I do post here, ya'll whine about it. Basically, ya'll whine....(laughing) I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   15:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Boofer, Fred Mertz (#28) Chuckles...Boofer is STILL in denial. Never contacted county officials. Nice parse, Boofer. #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: Badeye (#28) (Edited) I NEVER posted anyone's picture. Chuckles...simply because you knew what awaited...YOUR ugly Hagar suit clad Starsky glasses wearing mug being posted in return. How many times are we going to play this over, Boof? Do you know how many times YOU posted your own name on LP? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Badeye (#28) (Edited) Never wrote a review on Amazon (my personal kook favorite btw). I did a search for IMstillRight the other day and it pointed me to a review on Amazon...it was from 2007 or so. His screen name was mentioned by the reviewer as was war's as interesting posters. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   15:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Badeye (#26) And ask somebody to explain how the filter works, cause if you used it correctly you'd never see my posts. No, I want to see your posts. They're funny. The only person I block is your pal Ibluayukonfartsky. I guess you two have a lot in common. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   15:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Boofer, Skip Intro (#26) And ask somebody to explain how the filter works Maybe YOU should ask someone how the English language works. He never claimed to have you on filter. #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: war (#33) ping to #31; the edit feature doesn't let me edit the to: block...no biggie. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   15:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: Fred Mertz (#34) Thanks... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: war (#33) Maybe YOU should ask someone how the English language works. He never claimed to have you on filter. It's understandable why he gets confused. He's got the radio on, the tv on, three browser windows (at least) open and, occasionally, someone may have to ask him a business question. There's also his Facebook page to update, so his fans always know exactly what he's doing at all times. The poor guy must be exhausted. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   15:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: Skip Intro (#36) (Edited) ... someone may have to ask him a business question. "Excuse me, Mr. Boofer, can you sweep up in aisle 2??" #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Fred Mertz (#31) Pretty sure he left the web after realizing my anti groupie got him banned from multiple political forums. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   15:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: Skip Intro (#36) The poor guy must be exhausted. Like you after a day of playing Obama's flute, skippy? (Laughing!!!!!!!) Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted? Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-04   15:51:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: Skip Intro (#32) I see. So bascially you just proved you are bi polar, on this thread. Hmmm. Not that there is anything wrong with that......lmao I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   15:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: Boofer, Fred Mertz (#38) (Edited) Pretty sure he left the web after realizing my anti groupie got him banned from multiple political forums. Chyea...took him two years to realize it tho which still makes him smarter than you... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: Badeye (#38) I hope he's doing okay. Do you have his credit records/rating? I guess I just want to know if he's still alive. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   15:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #43. To: Boofer (#40) So bascially you just proved you are bi polar, on this thread. Chuckles...basically you just proved that you throw terms out there without knowing what they mean... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: Ibluafartsky (#39) Its always satisfying to see my anti groupie can't help but press his nose against the window and try to look in to this day....(chuckle) Its the only time he takes it out of Owe-bama's asshole apparently. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   15:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: Fred Mertz (#42) (Edited) (roaring with laughter) #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: Badeye (#44) Riiight Boofer...you're not called Mr. Inside for nuttin'... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   15:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: war (#46) Dang it, now I'm going to miss part of Bonanza....it's been fun...outie. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   15:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: Badeye (#40) I see. So bascially you just proved you are bi polar, on this thread. The correct word is bipolar, no space, and no, I didn't. You ought to look up the meaning of a word before you use it. The reason people read your stuff is to watch you backtrack and obfuscate once you get caught in a lie. It's entertaining, nothing more. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   16:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: Skip Intro (#48) Pre or post Pernell Roberts? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: Skip Intro, Badeye (#48) It's entertaining, Is that why you play Obama's flute, skippy? Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted? Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-05-04   16:04:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: Skip Intro (#48) The correct word is bipolar, no space, and no, I didn't. You sure he wasn't "talking" geography? /sarc #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: Fred Mertz (#42) Hardly. I didn't know who he was. And I wouldn't 'go there' under any circumstances if I did. Felony ya know. And I'd have to give a shit, which I don't. Taht said, hope he's okay, but posters disappear. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   16:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: Skip Intro (#48) No, the reason is, in this forum anyway, is they like watching kooks like yourself. And I've never lied in any forum, skippy. That would require giving a shit, which I don't. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   16:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #54. To: Badeye (#52) I didn't know who he was. And I wouldn't 'go there' under any circumstances if I did. Felony ya know. I see that you took my advice and talked to a lawyer. #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #55. To: Badeye (#53) And I've never lied in any forum, skippy. See, there you're doing it again. You ought to look up a diagnosis for yourself, BE. Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   16:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #56. To: war (#49) Pre or post Pernell Roberts? He wasn't in today's show...1965. I read that he passed away in January...the last of the crew. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-04   22:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: Fred Mertz (#56) He wasn't in today's show...1965. One of my older brother's favorite stories about me is how I cried my ass off when he "left" the Ponderosa... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-05   8:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #58. To: Brian S (#0) I wonder if it has anything to do with all the crap we spray all over our lawns so that the soil is so acidic that nothing lives except for the grass. A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-05   8:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #59. To: Skip Intro (#55) Skippy...I know, I know. Kooks are required to use the internet to affirm their worth. I think its because of the lack of any affirmation in the 'real world'. This ridiculous assertion is a case in point. You aren't worth a lie to me. Nobody is. I can see NOVEMBER from my House.... Badeye  posted on  2010-05-05   8:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #60. To: war (#57) ...when he "left" the Ponderosa... I didn't know it until a few years ago when an old man friend of mine told me that Pernell wore a hair piece. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-05   10:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #61. To: Fred Mertz (#60) (Edited) He was bald in Trapper John, MD... But Ben Cartwright wore one too... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-05   10:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: war (#61) I never watched that one. Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-05-05   10:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #63. To: Fred Mertz (#62) (Edited) Watched it when I was in college and it was in re-runs on afternoon TV... was trying to think about this... 3-3:30 - Brady Bunch 3:30-4PM - Happy Days 4-5 Trapper John MD 5-6 was back to back M*A*S*H 6-7 Back to back M*A*S*H on a different channel. Think the top two were on a different channel from the next two. Also, for a while, WGAL8 in Lancaster had Looney Tunes on @ 4... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war  posted on  2010-05-05   10:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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