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Title: Sarah Palin on the Gulf Spill: Prayer and the Invisible Hand Will Deliver Us From Eco-Disaster
Source: HUFFINGTON
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-m ... in-on-the-gulf-s_b_560760.html
Published: May 4, 2010
Author: Dan Manatt
Post Date: 2010-05-04 12:46:18 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 36302
Comments: 106

The Gulf disaster proves, at a minimum, that Sarah Palin's mindless slogans like "Drill Baby Drill" are not enough to make good energy or environmental policy.

A video by Americans for America PAC, which I co-direct, tries to make that case as simply as possible, juxtaposing Palin's chanting tea party hordes with a few images from the Gulf.

And yet, even in the face of the greatest disaster the Gulf has ever seen, Palin still refuses to admit any error or nuance. Malia Litman noted Sarah Palin's reaction to the Gulf Disaster here in HuffPost yesterday. Here was her tweet from Friday:

"Having worked/lived thru Exxon oil spill,my family&I understand Gulf residents' fears. Our prayers r w/u. All industry efforts must b employed..."

That's right -- Palin's 2 part response to the BP disaster is faith-based spill clean up (but no government action), and industry efforts -- the free market -- because the invisible hand is so good and scrubbing sludge from pelicans.

That's not all. On Saturday, at a public speaking gig, she said the spill was "very tragic" but added: "I want our country to be able to trust the oil industry."

Say wha?!?!?

Then, just when you would hope she would have backed off slogan-based politics out of respect for the Gulf victims, she blithely says, "My dad always says, 'Don't retreat, just reload.'"

One of these days, when Palin reloads, her slogan gun will backfire one time too many, destroying her credibility, even to the Tea Partiers, once and for all. Subscribe to *Spill-Baby-Spill*

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#26. To: lucysmom (#22)

Yes, I do have some thoughts on it.

There are approximately 3,700 oil rigs from what I recall currently in operation. We've had one very bad spill since 1968 off the coast of Santa Barbara directly related to oil platforms. Thats a better track record than oil refinery incidents from what I've seen so far. Better than the chemical industry as well.

I also think its worth noting this is a British owned and operated oil platform, not an American one from what I understand. Its my view an American owned company has more invested in safety issues, but that could be debated.

What I do find facinating is the simple fact stopping this spill, ironically, is more difficult because of the current laws regarding off shore drilling. We mandate they are so far out in deep water, its problematic getting to the problem area (5,000 feet down from what I'm hearing and reading).

Bottom line is we need oil. The more we get from our own land and ocean floor the less we need from unreliable sources like the ME.

Its ironic Canada, China, and Cuba are drilling off our shores while we hamstring American companies from doing the same thing, dont you think?

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   16:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Murron (#24)

After November, Murron.

How ya doing?

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   16:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Badeye (#26) (Edited)

I also think its worth noting this is a British owned and operated oil platform

It's owned by a Swiss company and leased by BP and that sums up the general accuracy of your post.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Badeye (#26) (Edited)

Its ironic Canada, China, and Cuba are drilling off our shores while we hamstring American companies from doing the same thing, dont you think?

Chevron is one of the most active drillers in the Gulf of Mexico. Exxon and Texaco are up there as well.

/dumbfuck

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Badeye (#26)

Its [sic] my view an American owned company has more invested in safety issues, but that could be debated.

As usual, your view is wrong. All rigs in US waters are subject to the same regulations.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Badeye (#26) (Edited)

What I do find facinating is the simple fact stopping this spill, ironically, is more difficult because of the current laws regarding off shore drilling.

Nope. It's more difficult because of how deep the well was drilled. Not how deep the wellhead is.

You should stick to one sentence posts, Boofer. In sheer numbers, it makes you less wrong.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#28)

It's owned by a Swiss company and leased by BP and that sums up the general accuracy of your post.

Halliburton completed work on the well 20 hours before it blew up.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-04   16:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Badeye (#27)

After November, Murron.

How ya doing?

You bet!

Did some shopping, had lunch at a new Italian restaurant, and now I'm multitasking....it's been a good day.

Murron  posted on  2010-05-04   16:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: lucysmom (#32)

BRITISH PETROLEUM...

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   16:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Murron (#33)

Time to cut grass. enjoy.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-05-04   16:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lucysmom (#32)

To get a sense of the magnitude of the spill's damage and cost — and how much worse it could get — here are some salient facts and figures:

11 million Size in gallons of the Exxon Valdez oil spill — until now, the worst in U.S. history

12.2 million Size, in gallons, of the BP spill as of May 1, according to one estimate from an oceanography professor at Florida State University

90 Days it will take to cap the leak, according to many estimates

1 million Gallons per day of oil currently leaking from the sunken BP rig, according to industry insiders

94 million Ultimate size of spill, in gallons, if that rate continues for 90 days

6.8 million Gallons per day BP predicts could begin gushing out of the well in the "worst- case scenario" of a complete "blowout" at the sunken rig

378 million Total spill size, in gallons, if this "worst case scenario" leak-rate were to continue for 90 days — or 34 times the size of the Valdez spill

400 Species of animals put in harm's way by the spill

29 Dead sea turtles already found washed up on shore

1,050 Estimated size of the oil slick, in square miles, on April 29th

3,850 Estimated size of the oil slick, in square miles, on April 30th (the latest such estimate)

7,000 Square miles of federal fishing areas in the Gulf that have been closed due to the slick

75 Percentage of U.S. shrimp production that comes from the Gulf Coast

$7 billion Cost of the Exxon Valdez spill

$14 billion Current estimated cost of the BP spill

$300+ billion Estimated cost of the spill in a worst case scenario, according to a top financial analyst

$20 billion BP's loss in market value, following to a 13 percent plunge in its stock price

$163 billion BP's total profits between 2001 and 2009

$6 million Amount BP has been spending per day on the spill 2,000 Number of people directly involved in the effort to stop the leak and contain the damage, as of April 30

79 Number of ships and other seafaring vessels involved

5,000 Depth, in feet, of the wellhead and the sunken rig

18,000 Depth, in feet, of the oil reservoir

30,000 The number of other oil wells in the Gulf, according to Interior Secretary Ken Salazar

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Badeye (#35)

Time to cut grass. enjoy.

Not anymore, our yard man just got here, he's finishing the weed eating, but I will put out my own flowers here in a few days.

Murron  posted on  2010-05-04   16:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Boofer, lucysmom (#34) (Edited)

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Boofer, lucysmom (#34) (Edited)

WRONG AGAIN BOOFER

Halliburton issues statement on Deepwater Horizon incident
May 2, 2010

Halliburton confirmed support of investigation of the disaster of Deepwater Horizon rig in the Gulf of Mexico. Halliburton performed several services and had 4 employees on the rig. All were evacuated by the U.S. Coast Guard. Halliburton had completed the cementation of the final production string 20 hours prior to the accident. Tests to demonstrate the integrity of the casing were completed. At the time of the accident, placement of the final cement casing plug had not occurred.

Analysis
The above is from a Rigzone Newsletter of April 30. The Halliburton report suggests casing failure. In deep water operations, the composition of the cement is carefully designed to set timely taking into consideration the high pressure/high temperature environment that would obtain in a well of that depth (about 18,000 feet). Once the job is complete, certain tests are made to insure that the job was a success. A key test is a check of the floating equipment. Long strings of casing are normally "floated" in, i.e. the string is equipped with both a float shoe and a float collar so that drilling fluid cannot enter the bottom of the string. The reason for this is to reduce the weight of the hook load which places a compressive burden on the derrick.

The accident occurred 20 hours after the cementing.

Depending on the design of the job, oil well cements are expected to set in 18- 24 hours. The final cement plug would have been set by running a string of drill pipe into the well "open ended", i.e. nothing would have been attached to the bottom joint of drill pipe. It is at this point that no further information has been released. If the final plug had been set, the remaining completion fluid would have remained in the casing. Then a cast iron bridge plug would have been set several feet blow the casing head flange. At that point the well would have been abandoned. The subsea blowout preventer stack would have been disconnected and the final operation would have been to pull the riser with the subsea stack attached to the bottom of it. This did not happen. For reasons not yet revealed and possibly not determined, a flow of natural gas and crude oil arrived at the surface and exploded. The force of the explosion must have damaged the ballast control equipment which led to the sinking of the rig. Until more information is made public, no conclusions can be drawn. The cause of the accident remains speculative.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   16:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Badeye (#34)

BRITISH PETROLEUM...

HALLIBURTON

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-04   18:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war (#36)

Sometimes conservation and the development of clean, renewable energy seems like a good idea.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-04   18:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#41)

Sometimes conservation and the development of clean, renewable energy seems like a good idea.

And real conservatives before greed took over put conservation and love of country over prosperity.

Teddy Roosevelt:

On Conservation

"Optimism is a good characteristic, but if carried to an excess, it becomes foolishness. We are prone to speak of the resources of this country as inexhaustible; this is not so." Seventh Annual Message to Congress, December 3, 1907

"We of an older generation can get along with what we have, though with growing hardship; but in your full manhood and womanhood you will want what nature once so bountifully supplied and man so thoughtlessly destroyed; and because of that want you will reproach us, not for what we have used, but for what we have wasted...So any nation which in its youth lives only for the day, reaps without sowing, and consumes without husbanding, must expect the penalty of the prodigal whose labor could with difficulty find him the bare means of life." "Arbor Day - A Message to the School-Children of the United States" April 15, 1907

"There can be no greater issue than that of conservation in this country." Confession of Faith Speech, Progressive National Convention, Chicago, IL, August 6, 1912

"Defenders of the short-sighted men who in their greed and selfishness will, if permitted, rob our country of half its charm by their reckless extermination of all useful and beautiful wild things sometimes seek to champion them by saying the 'the game belongs to the people.' So it does; and not merely to the people now alive, but to the unborn people. The 'greatest good for the greatest number' applies to the number within the womb of time, compared to which those now alive form but an insignificant fraction. Our duty to the whole, including the unborn generations, bids us restrain an unprincipled present-day minority from wasting the heritage of these unborn generations. The movement for the conservation of wild life and the larger movement for the conservation of all our natural resources are essentially democratic in spirit, purpose, and method." A Book-Lover's Holidays in the Open, 1916

"The conservation of natural resources is the fundamental problem. Unless we solve that problem it will avail us little to solve all others." Address to the Deep Waterway Convention, Memphis, TN, October 4, 1907

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2010-05-04   19:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Murron (#33)

Facebook is the place for that crap.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   20:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#43)

"Facebook is the place for that crap."

NAMBLA is the place for yours!

Murron  posted on  2010-05-04   20:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Murron (#44)

Chuckles...don't let Goldi see that...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   20:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#45)

Chuckles...don't let Goldi see that...

You sure don't know anything about me at all, you talk as if I should care. I'm a lot of things, but at least I'm not not a anonymous male(who claims to be a g- pa) , stalking other males, obsessed with the male anatomy...your posts speak for themselves.

Murron  posted on  2010-05-04   20:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Murron (#46) (Edited)

Now you're just babbling. I said that as a joke.

But let's recap me and you, eh? You claimed to be a court reporter yet you can't type a coherent sentence. You claim to have African American grandchildren yet are overtly racist. You claimed to working "undercover" for ten years, like Agent 99, scouring the internet for "secret" documents in some sort of expose that is just too daunting to talk about. You want to go there, airhead? Let's dance...

PS: Great job raising your kids that you have to raise theirs...if, of course, you are...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Murron (#46) (Edited)

How much more do I have to dish out before you call me pretending to be someone's Mom? (laughing)

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war (#47)

Now you're just babbling. You claimed to be a court reporter yet you can't type a coherent sentence. You claim to have African American grandchildren yet are overtly racist. You claimed to working "undercover" for ten years, like Agent 99, scouring the internet for "secret" documents in some sort of expose that is just too daunting to talk about. You want to go there, airhead? Let's dance...

Up until the part you dragged my sweet g-son into this, I would have talked to you about anything, but now I see there is no level you wouldn't stoop to hurt another person just to make a point.

Preceed, but do it without me!

Murron  posted on  2010-05-04   21:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war, Whitesands (#47)

You claimed to be a court reporter yet you can't type a coherent sentence.

A bit off topic but still along the line of "incoherent", have you ever read Whitesands first postings on LP?

It was either 5 years old or not of our language.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-05-04   21:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Murron (#49) (Edited)

Chuckles...but it's okay for you to bring mine in and claim I belong to NAMBLA...real high brow stuff...

You're too easy...in a different way now...but easy none the less...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Brian S (#50) (Edited)

Yep. He actually used to have some good thoughts and observations, tho, even if he was brief. He was very anti-neocon.

He lost it when Boof melted down and got banned as a result...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: war (#52)

He was very anti-neocon.

Of christ I don't remember that...

We get a rainy day I'll have to go back and look.

I got into reading my old FR posts a couple of weeks ago and forgot how much fun I had before the zionist takeover.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-05-04   21:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Brian S (#53)

I have about 700 threads saved on my HD...some classic Boofer lines and meltdowns in there...for someone who claims to not take the internet very seriously he sure took it seriously at LP...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: war (#54)

.for someone who claims to not take the internet very seriously he sure took it seriously at LP...

What gave it away? His 100 to 200 posts a day?

I know Neil came up with his total number of posts while he was still there. Do you remember what it was? It seems to me it was 25,000+, and that was years ago.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   21:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Brian S (#50)

war lied about the 'court reporter' part BS. If he were smart, he'd have gone back over my post about sitting in on court trials and writing articles for our local newspaper, which were edited before being published, a far cry from 'court reporter, but I guess that wouldn't have sound half as exciting as what he'd rather spread about me....It's like the msm taking bits and pieces of circumstancial evidence, creating a story around it, and making the public believe it.

Murron  posted on  2010-05-04   21:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Skip Intro (#55)

I do remember when Neil showed up to push his buttons every very now and again. Say what you want about my ability to get under Boof's skin, Neil was able to take it to a whole new level.

I think Neil showed up to congratulate Boof on his 50,000th post.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Murron (#56)

Nobody gives a shit.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#57)

It was a dark day when Neil left as co-owner of LP, indeed...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-05-04   21:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Skip Intro, Brian S (#55) (Edited)

One of my favorite Booferisms:

Sorry, the english language isn't the personal sandbox of those that can't describe opposing viewpoints accurately.

Badeye posted on 2004-11-15 15:07:43 ET Reply Trace

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   21:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Brian S (#59)

It was a dark day when Neil left as co-owner of LP, indeed...

I was just looking at some posts from 2003-2004 there. It was a really good site then, with a lot of interesting people.

By driving off everyone who doesn't agree with her, Goldi has completely run it into the sewer.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   21:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Moderate Mammal (#42)

And real conservatives before greed took over put conservation and love of country over prosperity.

Or traded our inheritance for a bowl of mush.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-05-04   21:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Skip Intro (#61)

It'll be dead the next time that she needs money. She has no clue how to run a business. She was lucky that her last ISP was as clueless as she was and she got away without paying her ISP bill.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   22:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#60)

One of my favorite Booferisms:

I remember when he posted that he stopped at a Best Buy the night the first PS3 came out, and there were boxes and boxes of them stacked everywhere, so he bought one.

This was when there wasn't a PS3 to be had anywhere in the country except on ebay, at 300% to 400% markups.

I wonder if he still has it in his office to entertain himself when he isn't doing everything else he does to entertain himself.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-05-04   22:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Skip Intro (#61)

By driving off everyone who doesn't agree with her, Goldi has completely run it into the sewer.

Bill Mayer did the same thing to his site.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   22:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Skip Intro (#64)

Don't those PSwhatevers require TWO hands to operate?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-04   22:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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