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Title: Bernanke: This is the Obama Depression. You are screwed. Get used to it.
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URL Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Why-E ... s-etfguide-3718079981.html?x=0
Published: Apr 22, 2010
Author: Simon Maierhofer
Post Date: 2010-04-22 13:16:13 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 246
Comments: 12

Just as you can't be a motivational speaker with a constant frown, you can't be the Fed President without being a 'glass half full' kind of guy. Ben Bernanke fits the bill well.

In 2005, Mr. Bernanke said that a housing bubble was a 'pretty unlikely possibility.' His judgment echoed Mr. Greenspan's assessment given in 2004 that the rise in home values was 'not enough in our judgment to raise major concerns.'

Even in 2007, Bernanke went on record to state that the Fed 'does not expect significant spillovers from the subprime market to the rest of the economy.'

I am not sure what Mr. Bernanke considers a significant spill, but what we got is more than your average Bounty paper towel can mop up.

According to Bernanke's assessment we are at the tail end of a minor spill, or are we?

Some of the comments made at the last Fed meeting certainly leave much room for concern. And when even Bernanke's outlook is less than rosy, there must be trouble looming. Let's take a look at what Ben had to say:

Fed statement:

'The staff did make modest downward adjustments to its projections for real GDP growth in response to unfavorable news on housing activity, unexpectedly weak spending by state and local governments, and a substantial reduction in the estimated level of household income in the second half of 2009.'

Interpretation:

GDP was lowered from its initial projection once again. Real estate (NYSEArca: IYR - News) remains the troubled sector and housing income is not recovering. Spending for consumer discretionary (NYSEArca: XLY - News) remains muted.

Much has been written about strategic mortgage defaults lately. Bank of American (NYSE: BAC - News) is fielding more than 125,000 calls a day from people seeking mortgage help. Hundreds of thousands haven't made a mortgage payment in more than a year.

That is hundreds of thousands of home-owners who decided that they won't pay the mortgage on an underwater home. The only way banks (NYSEArca: KBE - News) could motivate mortgage holders is to reduce the loan principal. If banks were to do just that, they'd have to report some $500 billion in losses, so they don't.

Meanwhile, the banks (NYSEArca: KRE - News) can successfully hide a big black hole, called shadow inventory while home-owners spend their mortgage money on the new iPad or flat screen TV. How does that affect GDP?

Fed statement:

'Real disposable personal income in January was virtually unchanged from a year earlier and would have been even lower in the absence of a substantial rise in federal transfer payments to households.'

Interpretation:

Despite massive government stimulus and billions of dollars freed up via strategic defaults, disposable income is the same as it was in January 2009. We look at the GDP and wonder how much of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is based on real economic growth?

By extension, it would be prudent to ask how much of the 75% gain in the S&P (SNP: ^GSPC), Dow Jones (DJI: ^DJI), Nasdaq (Nasdaq: ^IXIC), Russell 3000 (NYSEArca: IWV - News) and many other indexes is based on real growth? How much of the profits that financial corporations' (NYSEArca: XLF - News) are reporting are 'true' profits?

Fed statement:

'While recent data pointed to a noticeable pickup in the pace of consumer spending during the first quarter, participants agreed that household spending going forward was likely to remain constrained by weak labor market conditions, lower housing wealth, tight credit, and modest income growth.'

Even Mr. Bernanke expects household spending to remain constrained by weak labor conditions. The employment picture is the lynchpin for the U.S. economy. Without jobs, consumer spending won't see real growth, real estate will continue to fall and banks will continue to hoard money rather than lend money.

The chart below shows money on banks balance sheets categorized as cash. More money for banks means less money for loans, which translates into lower consumer spending and business development. This ultimately results in a negative feedback loop.

Perhaps you don't buy the whole 'new bull market' scenario but think that we could have a multi-year secular bull ahead of us. Let's see what we can learn from past secular bull markets.

Real or fake bull market?

As long as stocks (NYSEArca: VTI - News) go up, who cares if the rally is a real or fake bull? It doesn't matter until stocks go down. In a real bull market, stocks recover and continue rallying. In a fake bull market, stocks fall off the cliff.

But, even a fake bull market can last for several years. Take the 2002-07 bull market. The party went on for five years before the 2008 bear drew prices below the 2002 low.

Could this be another 2002-07-like rally?

Theoretically, it could. The optimism we see on Wall Street and in Washington has certainly returned. Now the administration and the Fed simply have to sort out who gets the credit for the recovery.

In fact, this is the same kind of sentiment that we saw in 1930. Right before the onset of the second leg of the Great Depression, President Hoover exclaimed the following:

'While the crash only took place six months ago, I am convinced we have now passed through the worst and with continued unity of effort we shall rapidly recover. There has been no significant bank or industrial failure. That danger, too, is safely behind us.'

Sorry, I went off track. But today's optimism does parallel the 1930s events. More importantly, many sentiment indicators have reached levels not seen since the last market top in 2007 or right before the technology (NYSEArca: XLK - News) bust in 2000.

If this is a 2002-07-like rally, however, the market will plow past those roadblocks and we have another couple years of rising prices ahead.

To see whether this might be the case, the May issue of the ETF Profit Strategy Newsletter compares today's corporate earnings, consumer confidence, Gross Domestic Product and employment picture with what we saw one year into the 2002-07 rally.

Even more important than past patterns are valuations. The ETF Profit Strategy Newsletter also looks at trustworthy and commonly used valuation metrics - P/E ratios, dividend yields, Dow (NYSEArca: DIA - News) measured in gold (NYSEArca: GLD - News) - and compares today's prices with valuations seen at historic market bottoms.

Having a 'glass half full' type of an attitude is not an investment strategy. It's simply an approach that renders you a genius in a bull market, but what happens when the market turns? Do you remember 2008? (1 image)

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Real Title: Why Even Bernanke Sees Trouble Ahead

"I could give a flying crap about the political process. We're an entertainment company". - Glen Beck

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-04-22   13:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Skip Intro (#1)

Real Title: Why Even Bernanke Sees Trouble Ahead

He just acting tribal, he can't help it. Non tribe members are not considered human, with deceit and trickery allowed. Seventh day Adventists believe the same.

It's the war, stupid.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-22   13:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mininggold (#2)

Seventh day Adventists believe the same.

What's the deal with you and 7th Day Adventists? Do you here their voices in your head? Will tinfoil help?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-04-22   13:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: no gnu taxes (#3)

What's the deal with you and 7th Day Adventists? Do you here their voices in your head? Will tinfoil help?

They are popular in my area. And believe in stealing from helpless vets. Otherwise I rarely if ever have mentioned them. So why are you so paranoid? You an adventist?

It's the war, stupid.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-22   13:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mininggold (#4)

I've seen you mention them a couple of other times. I think I even asked you if you were one because of this.

I know some Adventists and unlike Jehovah's Witnesses, they seem pretty normal.

They are popular in my area. And believe in stealing from helpless vets.

Since they are staunch believers in the 10 Commandments, I don't think they are stealing from anybody.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-04-22   13:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: no gnu taxes (#5)

Since they are staunch believers in the 10 Commandments, I don't think they are stealing from anybody.

They believe just like many Jews that the 10 commandments only apply to those within the cult.

It's the war, stupid.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-22   13:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: all (#6)

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, this article makes some very good points worth considering.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-22   13:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#7)

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, this article makes some very good points worth considering.

Why don't you mention and expound on one?

It's the war, stupid.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-22   13:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mininggold (#8)

In fact, this is the same kind of sentiment that we saw in 1930. Right before the onset of the second leg of the Great Depression, President Hoover exclaimed the following:

'While the crash only took place six months ago, I am convinced we have now passed through the worst and with continued unity of effort we shall rapidly recover. There has been no significant bank or industrial failure. That danger, too, is safely behind us.'

Sorry, I went off track. But today's optimism does parallel the 1930s events.

Sure, see the above. Its been my view - stated here at LF more than once - we will limp through 2010, and see a sharp decline in 2011.

This insane 'the economy is getting better!' wishful thinking is setting up the average American for one helluva economic suckerpunch.

Its tactically sound politics short term, meaning through the end of this year. But strategically, in politically terms, its going to cost this administration dearly, have the same effect on the Democratic Party its anti military hysteria of the 60's and 70's did with voters related to national security issues (difference obviously is this will destroy them related to economic issues for a decade, maybe longer).

The bottom line is the American people are going to remember all this ridiculous propaganda about 'green shoots' from last year, this years 'its getting better!' even as foreclosures are over 300k per month, and unemployment is at record highs, earnings continue to drop as they did last year by 3.2 percent on average.

We're in the 'eye' of this economic hurricane, in short. And as most know, its the backside of a hurricane that is the most damaging.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-22   14:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Boofer (#9)

Sure, see the above. Its been my view - stated here at LF more than once - we will limp through 2010, and see a sharp decline in 2011.

That wasn';t your stated opinion in January or February. It wasn't until March that you started espousing the view that we would limp through 2010.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-22   14:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Boofer (#9)

The bottom line is the American people are going to remember all this ridiculous propaganda about 'green shoots' from last year

The bottom line is that no one knows or has known what the fuck you are talking about when you continually misuse a term that not too many people knew about in the first place.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-22   14:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#7)

what's the difference between Ben Bernanke and the Fed and a circa 1881 Faro dealer.

Answer: The Faro dealer was more honest.

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The Fed EXPOSED!!! The FARO RESERVE BANK!!!

Coral Snake  posted on  2010-04-22   23:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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