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Title: Neocons Attack Rand Paul By Tying Him To His Dad's Foreign Policy
Source: TPM
URL Source: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/ ... to-his-dads-foreign-policy.php
Published: Apr 21, 2010
Author: Eric Kleefeld
Post Date: 2010-04-21 11:43:10 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 7340
Comments: 26

The Republican primary in the Kentucky Senate race is shaping up to be a proxy fight between the neoconservative wing of the Republican party and the more libertarian strands. Key neocons are backing Secretary of State Trey Grayson over conservative activist Rand Paul -- and attacking Paul by criticizing his father Ron Paul's (R-TX) stances on Iraq, 9/11 and Guantanamo Bay.

Rudy Giuliani endorsed Trey Grayson yesterday, boldly vilifying the opposition: "He [Grayson] is not part of the 'blame America first' crowd that wants to bestow the rights of U.S. citizens on terrorists and point fingers at America for somehow causing 9/11." Another big-name neoconservative endorsing Grayson is former Vice President Dick Cheney, who in his own endorsement spoke of Grayson's dedication to keeping Guantanamo open and upholding the surges in Iraq and Afghanistan.

TPMDC asked Rand Paul campaign manager David Adams for comment on efforts by Giuliani and others to tie Rand Paul to his father's foreign policy stances, and whether this might reflect an effort to stop a candidate with ties to Ron Paul. "I wouldn't speculate on what their motivations are," said Adams. "We'll put our endorsements up against anybody, and so far I think it's clear that Sarah Palin and Sen. Jim Bunning and the conservative pro-life groups that have endorsed Rand far outweigh what Secretary Grayson's been able to pull together."

Asked about what differences there might be between Rand Paul and his father Ron Paul, Adams declined to characterize the elder Paul's issue positions. But he was able to tell us about some of his own candidate's views.

On Gitmo: "Bottom line, Rand is not in favor of closing down Guantanamo Bay."

And on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars: "He is not for wholesale withdrawal. Rand has advocated better defining the mission, but now that we're there we have to win."

Ron Paul's campaign sent out an e-mail to its own supporter list, coming to Rand's defense in the wake of Giuliani's statement.

"The Neo-Con establishment is pulling out all the stops to beat Rand. First, Dick Cheney endorsed his opponent. Next, Rick Santorum. And today, Mr. Big Government Republican himself is slithering into the race," the e-mail said. "That's right. Rudy Giuliani has stuck his beak into Rand's race, endorsing his opponent and blaming Rand for being part of the "blame America" crowd. Disgusting."

The TPM Poll Average has Paul ahead of Grayson by 42.3%-25.3%. The Republican primary will be held on May 18.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Rand Paul is running a good campaign.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-21   13:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

What's wrong with Ron's foreign policy?

“There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”

Abcdefg  posted on  2010-04-21   20:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Neocons Attack Rand Paul By Tying Him To His Dad's Foreign Policy

Eric Kleefeld feels that Dr Ron Paul's foreign policy is wrong.

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-04-21   20:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye, brian S (#1)

it's interesting to see the neo-cons turning their lies against an actual conservative.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-04-21   21:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Abcdefg (#2)

What's wrong with Ron's foreign policy?

he crossed the neo-con line of actually suggesting that we could cut defense spending. he also opposes foreign aid, including to Israel.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-04-21   21:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#5)

he also opposes foreign aid, including to Israel.

That right there makes him an anti-semite, and probably a closet Nazi.

"I could give a flying crap about the political process. We're an entertainment company". - Glen Beck

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-04-21   21:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#4)

Riiight, thats why Rand Paul is leading, cause everybody knows the hotbed of the dreaded neocon hords is in Kentucky.....(roaring with laughter)

Me? Could care less, I'm just glad cranky Bunning is done.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-21   22:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#7)

Me? Could care less,

You apparently don't care about shit.

This is an important race, dog breath.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-04-21   23:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#8) (Edited)

Kentucky's Senate race is of interest, after they get the nominees. Till then, no big deal, I'm in Ohio as you know, horse breath.

I'm still laughing about the hords of eeevil neocons lurking in Kentucky...

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-21   23:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#9)

I'm still laughing about the hords of eeevil neocons lurking in Kentucky...

It's nice to see you finally admit they are evil.

It's the war, stupid.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-21   23:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#10)

Up a bit late to be muttering nonsense, ain't ya, kookie? Sheesh. They are your imaginary adversary's, not mine.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-21   23:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz (#8)

You apparently don't care about shit.

This is an important race, dog breath.

Narcissists only believe that the world revolves around THEM.

It's the war, stupid.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-21   23:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#9)

It's good that you aren't posting from the library.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-04-21   23:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

Its good you have a horse for sex.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-21   23:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Badeye (#14) (Edited)

Its good you have a horse for sex.

BBBWWWAAAAHGHHHHAAAAA!!!!!

I'd feel bad for the victim of that backhand.....OTOH this is jerx you blasted......chuckles:):):)

It'll take him a few minutes to get back up on his stool and clear his noggin from that Paquio-ism:):)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy...AKA Admiral Dwarf who has "shot at living things"...."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-04-21   23:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#12)

You are a narcissist, no denying it.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-22   9:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Boofer, Fred Mertz (#16)

What's a "hords"? Is that a typo for "horse" or "hordes"?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-22   10:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war, mininggold (#17)

Hi guys...I'm hitting Keeneland today...wish me luck....outie.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-04-22   11:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Fred Mertz (#18)

Good luck...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-22   11:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#18)

Good luck. Remember if you win, don't deposit more than 9,999 lest Owe-bama come lookin for payment....(chuckle)

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-22   11:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Boefer (#20)

(chuckle)

There was something rating mild on the amusement scale there, Boof?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-22   11:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#20)

Remember if you win, don't deposit more than 9,999

He might still have a "structuring" problem.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-04-22   11:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: no gnu taxes (#22)

Easy enough to get around if you know what your doing.

I can see NOVEMBER from my House....

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-22   11:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: go65 (#4)

Neo-Cons and modern "Liberals" are both "PROGRESSIVE" GovLuv philosophies.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2010-04-22   22:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: go65 (#5)

we should cut both defense spending and "gun control" and bring our manned defenses back to the unorganized non standing militias that the founders intended when they put the word militia in the Second Amendment.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2010-04-22   22:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#17)

What's a "hords"? Is that a typo for "horse" or "hordes"?

Or those who hoard as in the hotbed of "neocon hoarders". lol

It's the war, stupid.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-22   23:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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