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Title: Newly-minted Sen. Scott Brown refuses Palin, Tea Party invite
Source: RAW STORY
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0412/ne ... rown-snubs-palin-tea-partiers/
Published: Apr 12, 2010
Author: John Byrne
Post Date: 2010-04-12 11:47:10 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 20451
Comments: 60

The honeymoon, it seems, is over.

Sen. Scott Brown, whose unexpected victory saw the end of a legacy of liberalism in Massachusetts, is now refusing an invitation from the Tea Party movement -- and Sarah Palin, the very figures who helped Brown score his Senate seat.

Tea Partiers are gathering for a massive rally on Boston Common where Palin is scheduled to speak Wednesday.

Some experts, not surprisingly, are saying Brown has tossed the Tea Party overboard.

“He wants to mainstream himself before the election,” Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist, told the Boston Herald, which broke the story.

“You’re worried at a rally that there’s a sign, a statement, an incident that’s certifiably cuckoo occurs,” political analyst Lou DiNatale told the paper. “To win re-election, Scott Brown floating to the right is a serious problem.

“And showing up at a Sarah Palin, Tea Party event is not the way to the middle.”

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#5. To: Brian S (#0)

are these folks not aware that Scott Brown voted for RomneyCare?

go65  posted on  2010-04-12   12:49:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#5)

You unaware it wasn't a national vote, but a state one?

both the Masscare and nationalization of healthcare are failures...citing it the Masscare as a 'negative' seems a bit self destructive given your view.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-12   12:58:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#6) (Edited)

both the Masscare and nationalization of healthcare are failures...citing it the Masscare as a 'negative' seems a bit self destructive given your view.

Then why does the Tea Party want Scott Brown, who endorsed Masscare, to speak?

And why did Rush Limbaugh praise Mitt Romney as a true Conservative?

And why did Mitt Romney just win the Southern Republican Leadership Conference straw-poll for President in 2012 (and the CPAC straw poll 3 out of the last 4 years)?

So if I read this right, Tea Partiers/Conservatives love Scott Brown and Mitt Romney but hate their policies?

Is hypocrisy a requirement to join this movement?

go65  posted on  2010-04-12   13:07:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#8)

Because he learned from Masscare, and wants to cut spending and taxes, which are the two primary concerns of the Tea Party's base. You'd know this if you spent 1/10th of the time you have mocking them, and actually listen.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-12   13:17:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#11)

Because he learned from Masscare, and wants to cut spending and taxes, which are the two primary concerns of the Tea Party's base.

I keep reverting back to my tag line Badeye:

So in the second vote of his Senate career, Brown promptly voted to help Democrats cut off a Republican filibuster of a $15 billion jobs bill engineered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV).

"It's not a perfect bill," Brown said shortly after voting. "I was comfortable with that vote."

And yet the Tea Party invites him to speak at their rally, and we're supposed to take the Tea Party seriously?

go65  posted on  2010-04-12   13:52:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#14)

You pretend he didn't learn anything from that vote, and its now documented repercussions.

He KNOWS what it did to the financial state of affairs in Mass. He's said it enough times...so what, exactly, is your point?

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-12   13:57:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#17)

"I believe that all Americans deserve health care coverage"

Scott Brown.

go65  posted on  2010-04-12   17:17:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: go65 (#19)

And? He doesn't believe its efficent to have the Federal Government provide it, as you know from the rest of the quote.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-13   10:34:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#20)

And? He doesn't believe its efficent to have the Federal Government provide it, as you know from the rest of the quote.

Whoa, Brown supports eliminating the VA medical system? Since when? Do you have a quote?

After all, the VA system is the only method by which the Federal Government provides healthcare (other than for active duty service personnel). Does Brown want to eliminate the Medical Services Corps as well?

Did you even bother to put the slightest bit of thought into this argument?

go65  posted on  2010-04-13   20:09:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#21) (Edited)

Did you even bother to put the slightest bit of thought into this argument?

Is that one of them whatchamacallit questions? Reformical? But FOX News told me that Obama is GIVING me health care...are you stating that he isn't? Why would FOX News lie to me?

war  posted on  2010-04-14   10:38:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war, badeye, bartcoprules (#22)

Is that one of them whatchamacallit questions? Reformical? But FOX News told me that Obama is GIVING me health care...are you stating that he isn't? Why would FOX News lie to me?

Did you see O'Reilly attack Tom Coburn for Coburn's claim that Fox News misleads? O'Reilly claimed that nobody at Fox ever said anyone would go to jail if they didn't have health insurance. Yet there are numerous examples of O'Reilly himself, and Glenn Beck, claiming exactly that.

But you and I keep making the mistake in thinking facts matter to folks like Badeye.

The reality is the bill enacted a few weeks ago reforms insurance, it doesn't result in the federal government providing care. The only place where that happens is in the VA system and the military.

So if the GOP wants to advocate that military medical services and VA hospitals should be eliminated, let them go for it.

go65  posted on  2010-04-14   20:58:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#26)

Did you see O'Reilly attack Tom Coburn for Coburn's claim that Fox News misleads? O'Reilly claimed that nobody at Fox ever said anyone would go to jail if they didn't have health insurance. Yet there are numerous examples of O'Reilly himself, and Glenn Beck, claiming exactly that.

Coburn couldn't cite a single example when pressed repeatedly by O'Reilly.

Neither can you, I suspect.

Facts do matter, thats why I ask you to cut and paste the absurd claim you made on another thread about Brown and the VA. You made something up, attributed it to me, and then demand I answer you.

Facts indeed, GO65.

Give me the quotes you claim were made by O'Reilly on this thread. I'll check back.

Nobody has advocated eliminating 'military medical services' or the VA that I'm aware of. Show me who, with the quote, I'll join you in denouncing them.

And lets not confuse demanding waste be cut from both as a 'demand they be eliminated'.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-15   9:37:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Badeye (#29)

Coburn couldn't cite a single example when pressed repeatedly by O'Reilly.

This:

BECK: I don't have universal health care.

O'REILLY: Now, let's get -- well, you will soon.

BECK: Or I'll go to jail.

And this:

BECK: This is the first time in history in the country where, just to be a citizen, just to be -- not go to jail you have to buy something.

And it's also true that last month, Bill O'Reilly said this:

O'REILLY: The IRS is now going to have to enforce ObamaCare. ... The IRS gets them if they don't pay the taxes. Ask Wesley Snipes.

go65  posted on  2010-04-15   11:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: go65 (#32)

Coburn couldn't cite a single comment remains true.

O'Reilly didn't say anyone was going to jail, he said the IRS is tasked with enforcement.

Yep, Beck is a commentator. Not a 'news/journalist'.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-15   12:01:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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