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Title: Goldi-Lox Explains the Civil War
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URL Source: http://69.164.197.124/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=287235&Disp=13#C13
Published: Apr 9, 2010
Author: Goldi-Lox
Post Date: 2010-04-09 19:08:35 by Skip Intro
Keywords: None
Views: 18988
Comments: 145

THAT is bullshit.

The civil war was all about MONEY.

The South wanted to sell their crops to Foreign Nations and use their own ports.

FEDGOV said NO. You have to ship them up North, and let our middlemen sell them to nations WE choose at prices we select.

The South was getting HOSED. One of the reasons they had slaves was due to the North imposing these rules on them. They couldn't afford to pay wages.

Now, some of them were very greedy, no doubt...and that is evidenced in the grand homes they built.

However, many southern farmers were barely breaking even and were sick and tired of it. They wanted to use the ports in SC and GA to ship their products and wanted to sell to France and others at better prices than they were getting.

FEDGOV imposed rules on them....so they seceded in order to run their own farms.

However, once fighting broke out, and a civil war was in place Lincoln decided to break the backs of the South, by freeing the slaves who he hoped would fight them in their own towns and plantations. That didn't happen.

Lincoln used Slavery as an excuse for a lot of the actions he engaged in. He was as bad as Obastard...he imprisoned the entire Maryland Assembly (Govt) including the Governor, so they could not vote to seceed. He kept them imprisoned in Fort McHenry for MONTHS. He committed a lot of atrocities. He is no hero. He was a jerk - and an abuser of our Constitution. In fact, read the words of the state song "Maryland my Maryland" - where it says "The tyrants food is on our shores/neck"...that tyrant was Lincoln.

Most blacks who were slaves were well treated, and did not want to leave their homes...and most didn't. Those who were mistreated did, and flooded the cities in the north...from which they have never recovered.

But few slaves - or freedmen - were engaged in the fighting.

Booth was a hero to the South. And still is today.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2010-04-09 18:57:04 ET Reply Trace

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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

oh my...I'm so glad I'm not associated with stormfront lite.

Somebody should tell this silly woman it was about State Rights.

The primary Right the South asserted was to allow Slavery. Hence its being codified within the CSA's Constitution, cleary...consisely..and beyond any doubt of even a total idiot.

Which is why the CSA never could obtain an intervention from any civilized nation, and lost the war.

More to it, obviously...but given Sally's small mind, figure I'd keep it simple.

What a fuckin nutcase.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-09   19:22:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#1)

Somebody should tell this silly woman it was about State Rights.

Somebody needs to tell YOU that State's Rights include the right to export goods without having to go through a central government.

Goldi is pretty much correct with everything she wrote.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-04-09   19:32:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete, badeye (#4)

Somebody needs to tell YOU that State's Rights include the right to export goods without having to go through a central government.

I hate agreeing with Badeye as much as the next guy, but when he's right, he's right:

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Confederate President Jefferson Davis, April 29, 1861:

[T]he productions in the South of cotton, rice, sugar, and tobacco, for the full development and continuance of which the labor of African slaves was and is indispensable, had swollen to an amount which formed nearly three-fourths of the exports of the whole United States and had become absolutely necessary to the wants of civilized man. With interests of such overwhelming magnitude imperiled, the people of the Southern states were driven by the conduct of the North to the adoption of some course of action to avert the danger with which they were openly menaced.

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Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens. March 26, 1861

The prevailing ideas entertained by … most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. … Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of the races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a government built upon it — "When the storm came and the wind blew, it fell."

Our new government is built upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and moral condition. This, our new Government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

go65  posted on  2010-04-09   22:34:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#12)

This one is a keeper:


#15. To: JoeSnuffy (#12)

Israel will never do something just because the UOTUS wants it, but only what is in Israel's interest. Contrary to the general idea circulating here and there, Israel is NOT the US vassal.

Marguerite posted on 2010-04-09 21:53:10 ET

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-04-09   23:39:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

Here's a goody from our friend.

#6. To: Goldi-Lox (#5)

He should send a few Mossad agents over here to poke the bogus potus in the chest - but I don't think they'd use a finger.

You know that I have no beef with Israel and will chose it over the Muzzies any day but at some point the Jews are going to have use what ever influence they have to support conservatives.

Even with their small numbers its just symbolic.

The put themselves in the situation they are in.

Mossad out to target the liberal Jewish community and "persuade" them to support conservatives.

WhiteSands posted on 2010-04-10 0:02:39 ET Reply Trace

LOL These people never learn from history.

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-10   0:13:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#14)

but at some point the Jews are going to have use what ever influence they have to support conservatives.

NOT going to happen. Not now,not ever. Israel is a socialist nation.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-04-10   8:50:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#24)

Israel is a socialist nation.

Socialism will work under a system of non-freeloading, like minded moral people.

The problem is keeping the riff-raff out.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-04-10   11:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: no gnu taxes (#32)

Socialism will work under a system of non-freeloading, like minded moral people.

The problem is keeping the riff-raff out.

LOLOLOL So when does the free loading off the rest of the world stop there?

mininggold  posted on  2010-04-10 11:38:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: no gnu taxes (#32)

Socialism will work under a system of non-freeloading, like minded moral people.

Are you referring to Heaven, because it doesn't work in any of the countries I have been in.

GarySpFC  posted on  2010-04-10 12:11:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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