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Title: Goldi-Lox Explains the Civil War
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URL Source: http://69.164.197.124/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=287235&Disp=13#C13
Published: Apr 9, 2010
Author: Goldi-Lox
Post Date: 2010-04-09 19:08:35 by Skip Intro
Keywords: None
Views: 19233
Comments: 145

THAT is bullshit.

The civil war was all about MONEY.

The South wanted to sell their crops to Foreign Nations and use their own ports.

FEDGOV said NO. You have to ship them up North, and let our middlemen sell them to nations WE choose at prices we select.

The South was getting HOSED. One of the reasons they had slaves was due to the North imposing these rules on them. They couldn't afford to pay wages.

Now, some of them were very greedy, no doubt...and that is evidenced in the grand homes they built.

However, many southern farmers were barely breaking even and were sick and tired of it. They wanted to use the ports in SC and GA to ship their products and wanted to sell to France and others at better prices than they were getting.

FEDGOV imposed rules on them....so they seceded in order to run their own farms.

However, once fighting broke out, and a civil war was in place Lincoln decided to break the backs of the South, by freeing the slaves who he hoped would fight them in their own towns and plantations. That didn't happen.

Lincoln used Slavery as an excuse for a lot of the actions he engaged in. He was as bad as Obastard...he imprisoned the entire Maryland Assembly (Govt) including the Governor, so they could not vote to seceed. He kept them imprisoned in Fort McHenry for MONTHS. He committed a lot of atrocities. He is no hero. He was a jerk - and an abuser of our Constitution. In fact, read the words of the state song "Maryland my Maryland" - where it says "The tyrants food is on our shores/neck"...that tyrant was Lincoln.

Most blacks who were slaves were well treated, and did not want to leave their homes...and most didn't. Those who were mistreated did, and flooded the cities in the north...from which they have never recovered.

But few slaves - or freedmen - were engaged in the fighting.

Booth was a hero to the South. And still is today.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2010-04-09 18:57:04 ET Reply Trace

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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

oh my...I'm so glad I'm not associated with stormfront lite.

Somebody should tell this silly woman it was about State Rights.

The primary Right the South asserted was to allow Slavery. Hence its being codified within the CSA's Constitution, cleary...consisely..and beyond any doubt of even a total idiot.

Which is why the CSA never could obtain an intervention from any civilized nation, and lost the war.

More to it, obviously...but given Sally's small mind, figure I'd keep it simple.

What a fuckin nutcase.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-09   19:22:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#1)

Somebody should tell this silly woman it was about State Rights.

Somebody needs to tell YOU that State's Rights include the right to export goods without having to go through a central government.

Goldi is pretty much correct with everything she wrote.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-04-09   19:32:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#4)

Ah...no.

You have nothing to export from the Antebellum South without SLAVES. Thats simply fact. Without the RIGHT to OWN SLAVES, everything Sally writes is IRRELEVANT.

What you are citing is the infamous 'Lost Cause Theory' thats so ridiculously discredited by historians from both the North and the South its amusing anyone clings to it in the year 2010. You're actually bird talking Jubal Early's defense of The South from the 1868 - 1880's. Early concocted this ridiculous revisionist history in an attempt to paint the South in 'glory' but also to discredit that evil Republican, former General James 'Pete" Longstreet, who despised each other til the day they died.

I'm not making any of this up, you can read it in dozens of legitimate historical texts, or the letters and books from the particpants themselves.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-10   1:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Badeye (#16)

Ah...no.

You have nothing to export from the Antebellum South without SLAVES. Thats simply fact. Without the RIGHT to OWN SLAVES, everything Sally writes is IRRELEVANT.

Not true. We (the original colonies)started out exporting goods to Europe before slavery existed here. We used indentured servants,both black and white.

In fact,it was a former indentured servant that created slavery as a legal institution by going to court and having his indentured servant declared to be his property. This man was black and the indentured servant he enslaved were both black.

Slavery was just more profitable at that time. A condition which would have changed as machinery became available to do the work more efficiently and cheaply.

After all,the slaves all had "free health care,free housing,free food,and free clothing".

Hell,they even had a retirement plan that allowed them to sit around and still be fed and housed once they got too old to work. Slavery was a wet dream come true for the left,and Obama is trying to bring it back to thundering applause from them. The only difference is he wants the whites to be the slaves.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-04-10   9:00:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: sneakypete (#27)

Sorry, sneaky, but the fact is the South wanted slavery to continue. If it had not been THE issue throughout the 1850's, the Civil War would not have occured.

'The Lost Cause' myth says it was a war about 'States Rights'.

What was the 'primary Right' the South desired above all others?

As the CSA Constitution Clearly STATES - the Right to maintain SLAVERY as a institution.

Had the CSA abolished slavery, THEN fired on Ft Sumter, they would have won.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-12   9:02:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Badeye (#100)

Sorry, sneaky, but the fact is the South wanted slavery to continue. If it had not been THE issue throughout the 1850's, the Civil War would not have occured.

Sorry Badeye, but you are dead wrong. You simply do not understand the Southern psyche. Southerners are a very proud group, and the aristrocrats by the time of the CW had already decided slavery was morally wrong, but in spite of that they were not about to allow outsiders to push something down their throats.

GarySpFC  posted on  2010-04-12   10:15:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: GarySpFC (#102)

Sorry, but those 'aristocrats' codified it in the CSA Constitution, as a post way up above quoted exactly.

I understand the 'Southern psyche' quite well. I also know today its based on the Lost Cause bullshit thats been utterly discredited by historians from both Northern and Southern perspectives.

The South today likes to either pretend it 'wasn't about slavery' or pretends the war never happened (See Atlanta - who's historical time line ends in the 1850's and picks back up in the 1870's).

Your statement is further 'gutted' by the simple fact that the notion of arming 'blacks' in the South to bolster the vastly outnumbered CSA forces was considered by a vast majority within the legislature to be 'treason'. Or suicidal, take your pick.

And tell me, if they had decided it was 'morally wrong' and only resisted because 'they wouldn't allow it to be pushed down their throats'....ah, morally wrong is MORALLY WRONG.

What you state here is something I noted way up above, the South - like the British Empire of that ear, would rather 'lose the war than admit the mistake'.

They could have won. The decision to codify Slavery in their Constitution was in the end the deciding factor. It prevented any possibility of the worlds great powers from siding with the CSA. It gave Lincoln a huge advantage in the North to 'define' the war as it was taking place, not only taking and holding the 'moral highground' of the era, but to this day. Not saying he was fighting the war over slavery, thats simply not true as his own words up until his assasination clearly demonstrate.

But the fact is the CSA died of a theory. The theory was they could suceed from the Union AND keep a Institution (Slavery) without repercussions that doomed it to failure.

The simple fact of this matter is the Union, despite all of its advantages in manpower, and manufacturing, couldn't get out of its own way til Grant was promoted to command of ALL Union forces, in both theaters. The war shouldn't have lasted more than 18 months, tops, given the disparity in military and economic forces. It was only due to Union incompetence the war lasted four years in my view.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-12   11:05:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Boofer (#109)

It was only due to Union incompetence the war lasted four years in my view.

And everyone else's, Boof. (eyes rolling)

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