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Title: VA Gov. McDonnell Longs for the Confederacy, Slavery Not ‘Significant’
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ChattahBox
URL Source: http://chattahbox.com/us/2010/04/07 ... eracy-slavery-not-significant/
Published: Apr 7, 2010
Author: ChattahBox
Post Date: 2010-04-07 14:19:33 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 8575
Comments: 34
(ChattahBox)—- Since his inauguration in January, the Republican Gov. of Virginia, Bob McDonnell, has been busy transforming the Southern commonwealth into a right-wing mecca. The devotee of televangelist Pat Robertson, first issued an executive order excluding gays from state discrimination protections. Now, McDonnell is angering civil rights leaders, by issuing a state proclamation declaring April Confederate History Month. The proclamation calls for Virginians to “understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War.” Glaringly absent from the language is a reference to slavery. McDonnell knew what he was doing. When asked about the exclusion of anti-slavery statements in his racially charged Confederate manifesto, he responded that slavery was not “significant” enough to be included. McDonnell defended his Confederate declaration, saying it’s intended to promote Virginia “tourism” by drawing attention to the upcoming anniversary honoring Virginia’s secession from the Union on April 17, 1861. What sort of tourists would such an anniversary attract? Mike Vanderboegh for one, a 57-year old former militia member from Alabama, who called for “patriots” opposing the healthcare On April 19, Vanderboegh will be a featured speaker at the “Restore the Constitution Open-Carry Rally” held at Fort Hunt National Park, VA. The purpose of the rally is to parade around armed to the teeth, “as close to DC as possible.” April 19 was deliberately chosen as a special date for the open-carry rally: it’s the same day Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City and also marks the end of the Branch Davidian siege outside Waco, TX. McDonnell is apparently happy with his new militia patriot tourism: “McDonnell said Tuesday that the move was designed to promote tourism in the state, which next year will mark the 150th anniversary of the start of the war. McDonnell said he did not include a reference to slavery because “there were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states. Obviously, it involved slavery. It involved other issues. But I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia.”‘ 
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
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One teensy problem with this 'right wing mecca' thingy, Brian S. Democrats backed THE SOUTH IN THE CIVIL WAR, by overwhelming margins. In fact, the Democrats platform of 1864 - when everybody KNEW the North would finally triumph, featured McClellan as their nominee. His postion was make peace with the CSA, and LET SLAVERY CONTINUE. That said, celebrating April as 'Confederate History Month' is a very very good idea, if your an American. What transpired in April of 1865 probably saved America. I recommend 'April, 1865 - The month that saved America' very highly. If nothing else, you can then tell your Leftwingnut friends 'don't go there, you'll expose our party's role in trying to preserve slavery'.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
yes, back then Democrats were the Conservatives, Republicans were the liberals. Things have changed.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Horsehit, GO65. They were exactly the same in the 1960's when they filibustered civil rights legislation. You don't want to play games about that particular era with me. You'll get your ass kicked all over this forum.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Since civil rights legislation was new and considered "progressive" by some just what party was conservative again?
Don't even think of questioning Boofer about that era or you'll get your ass kicked all over this forum...(laughing!) /sarc
Ah, the grammar king makes an appearance. You would know, having had your ass handed to you three times in the past ten days, Freddie.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
/sarc Those nasty internet tough guys can sure beat someone to a pulp. lol. And keep jamming those square pegs into round holes.
According to him I'm lucky I'm not on life support....(chuckle)
No one can say he's not delusional.
Who Freddie?
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
His head is up his ass.
Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?
About 80% of the time. The other 20% he appears to be quite lucid.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
It's 2010 Badeye.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
You don't dare dispute the facts, so pretend what you want. The voting records are crystal clear.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
I haven't the slightest idea what "facts" I'm supposed to be disputing. Sorry.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
McDonnell issued an apology tonight: Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
I saw that on the news earlier this evening. Thanks.
You do know that it's 2010, Boof? You do know that democrats who got so thoroughly disgusted with the CRA in the 60's became republicans?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
He's an expert, once again, on that time period.
Badeye's historical analysis: Republicans always good...Democrats always bad. lolol
The second I take racially based lectures from filthy dimtard plantation massauh asswipes like you and your hypocritical regressive locksteppers...thinking you leftist fucks have any.....ANY...high ground to lecture from on racial issues....... well..... that second will not be coming during your lifetime.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy...AKA Admiral Dwarf who has "shot at living things"...."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36
Ugly little crowd of honky stringy haired phonies here BE.....tards are never going to be comfortable with their "plantation massuh" history. Any more than they'll admit their current tact of regressive welfare-ism is anything but a continuation of plantation politics. People like me scare them when we roll off the plantation ...... and no way do we exist in the teaparty movement either:):) Anyway.....I've already selected November election nights' celebration music starting with a fitting Chambers Brothers tune. "Time" And that night will mark a fitting end to all this hopey changey si si puede crap.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy...AKA Admiral Dwarf who has "shot at living things"...."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36
He's a fucking moron. BTW, Boof claims that he handed your ass to you several times...a) when and whewre and b) what was HE doing trying to hold your ass in the first place?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
He read a book that sympathizes with the Southern POV...that offers up rumor as historical fact and was one of the most boring pieces of history that I have read since Dante decided to give us the history of Hell.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Sorry. Duh.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Super. And your point? Nobody disputes slavery was 'the issue'. The fact is the Democratic Party wanted to 'make nice' with slave owners. Ironically, its the same mindset they have with today's Jihadist. Some things never change.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Being a liberal democrat means you ignore reality.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
You are 100% incorrect Boofer. McClellan was not a "Copperhead democrat". IN fact, he advocated continuing the war and defeating the South. Pendleton, McClellan's VP candidate, WAS a "peace at all costs" Copperhead. McClellan was continually at odds with both his running mate AND his party and, in the end, it cost him the election. But to claim that McClellan wanted to end the war is as ignorant a statement as you can make about the man. From what we know about him and the election of 1864, the opposite is true.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
In accepting the nomination McClellan left no doubt as to where he stood, rejecting the peace plank outright and made reunion with the South a precondition for any armistice. Unlike Lincoln, who required not only reunion but abolition of slavery, McClellan would only require reunion. http://blueandgraytrail.com/event/Election_of_1864 McClellan's position about negotiating an end to the war was modified to 'continuing the war' when the public realized the end was in sight, that the Union would in fact win the war. Before that point, midway through 1864, he was for ending it, and letting the CSA exist as its Constitution dictated. But there is no dispute the Democrats platform of 1864 called for ending it, and letting the South go, in effect beginning a move to making North America resemble Europe as we see it today. Small nation/states unable to defend themselves, among other things. Many don't realize, and a few refuse to recognize, that by 1864, the South was heavily engaged in a debate about 'succession' from the Confederate States of America. And that had the Democrats gotten what they clearly desired in the Platform of 1864, the CSA would absolutely have fragmented into at least three seperate entites within the first 36 months after the end of hostilities with the north. Eventually, many historians of the era have theorized it would have resulted in as many as ten seperate 'nation/states' trying to co exist in what is now defined as North America. Shelby Foote is by far the best source for the 'ins and outs' of this era via his triology 'The Civil War'. Completely sourced, extensively foot noted, its unquestionable. He documents McClellan's positions as they changed with the political whirlwinds between his second firing by Lincoln for gross incompetence (McClellan should have won the war outright in 1862, TWICE). But the fact is he desired the war to end in a negotiated settlement right up until several WEEKS before the DNC of that era's convention, after what is best described as a cessation of hostilities with all army's remaining in place while the negotiations continued. Basically, he favored the South returning to its 'natural state' the Antebellum Period, with no repercussions, and the institution of slavery remaining.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Boof...you're talking out yer ass...McClellan NEVER agreed to negotiate a peace.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
That's obvious. McConnel shouldn't have apologized either - apologizing to a lib is like throwing cows blood in a shark tank.
Except perhaps that recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, Mars Byrd. And people like Thurmond and Faircloth didn't become Republicans until Newt whiped out the dems in the 90's. - it had nothing to do with CRA, it had to do with being re-elected. Democrats haven't changed - they simply discriminate against Whites now.
Thurmond switched parties in 1970.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Shh....he's on a roll...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
#2. To: Badeye (#1)
Democrats backed THE SOUTH IN THE CIVIL WAR, by overwhelming margins.
#3. To: go65 (#2)
#4. To: Badeye (#3)
Horsehit, GO65. They were exactly the same in the 1960's when they filibustered civil rights legislation.
#5. To: mininggold (#4)
#6. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
#7. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
(Edited)
Don't even think of questioning Boofer about that era or you'll get your ass kicked all over this forum...(laughing!)
#8. To: mininggold (#7)
#9. To: Fred Mertz (#8)
According to him I'm lucky I'm not on life support....(chuckle)
#10. To: Fred Mertz (#8)
#11. To: Badeye, Fred Mertz (#6)
You would know, having had your ass handed to you three times in the past ten days, Freddie.
#12. To: Ibluafartsky (#11)
#13. To: Badeye (#3)
Horsehit, GO65. They were exactly the same in the 1960's when they filibustered civil rights legislation.
#14. To: go65 (#13)
#15. To: Badeye (#14)
You don't dare dispute the facts, so pretend what you want. The voting records are crystal clear.
#16. To: Brian S, badeye, fred mertz (#0)
RICHMOND, Va. - Gov. Bob McDonnell has conceded a "major omission" for not noting slavery in declaring April Confederate History Month in Virginia.
As part of his mea culpa, McDonnell inserted into the proclamation a paragraph condemning slavery as "evil and inhumane" and blaming it as the cause of the Civil War.
In a 400-word statement his office issued, McDonnell said the failure to include a slavery reference was a mistake and apologized to any Virginian who was offended or disappointed.
#17. To: go65 (#16)
#18. To: Boofer (#1)
#19. To: war (#18)
You don't want to play games about that particular era with me. You'll get your ass kicked all over this forum.
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
He's an expert, once again, on that time period.
#21. To: Brian S (#0)
#22. To: Badeye (#3)
#23. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
#24. To: mininggold (#20)
#25. To: go65 (#15)
I haven't the slightest idea what "facts" I'm supposed to be disputing.
#26. To: go65 (#16)
#27. To: e_type_jag (#22)
#28. To: Boofer, go65 (#1)
His postion was make peace with the CSA, and LET SLAVERY CONTINUE.
#29. To: go65 (#16)
At the Chicago convention, August Belmont began by accusing the Lincoln administration of "learning nothing since Charleston," a reference to the battle of Fort Sumter and not the failed Democratic Convention there in 1860. Western Democrats tended towards the pro-peace wing and were more formidable than the War Democrats thought. Although Samuel Tilden could have defeated the Westerner's peace plank in committee or on the floor of the convention, he let it be added to the platform to ensure the Peace Democrats would vote for McClellan. The move gave McClellan 174 votes on the first ballot, well above the 151 needed to win. The Democrats chose George B. McClellan as their candidate for president, a War Democrat and George H Pendleton, a Peace Democrat for vice-president, although the platform contained a call for peace.
#30. To: Boof (#29)
McClellan's position about negotiating an end to the war was modified to 'continuing the war' when the public realized the end was in sight, that the Union would in fact win the war. Before that point, midway through 1864, he was for ending it, and letting the CSA exist as its Constitution dictated.
#31. To: go65 (#15)
I haven't the slightest idea what "facts" I'm supposed to be disputing.
#32. To: war (#18)
You do know that democrats who got so thoroughly disgusted with the CRA in the 60's became republicans?
#33. To: Rowdy Roddy Piper (#32)
#34. To: Badeye (#33)
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