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Title: The nightmare continues...Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nukes Even In Self-Defense...
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URL Source: http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2 ... ukes-even-in-self-defense.html
Published: Apr 6, 2010
Author: weaselzippers
Post Date: 2010-04-06 08:56:48 by dont eat that
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Views: 561
Comments: 28

President Obama said Monday that he was revamping American nuclear strategy to substantially narrow the conditions under which the United States would use nuclear weapons, even in self-defense.

But the president said in an interview that he was carving out an exception for “outliers like Iran and North Korea” that have violated or renounced the main treaty to halt nuclear proliferation.

Discussing his approach to nuclear security the day before formally releasing his new strategy, Mr. Obama described his policy as part of a broader effort to edge the world toward making nuclear weapons obsolete, and to create incentives for countries to give up any nuclear ambitions.

To set an example, the new strategy renounces the development of any new nuclear weapons, overruling the initial position of his own defense secretary.

Mr. Obama’s strategy is a sharp shift from those adopted by his predecessors and seeks to revamp the nation’s nuclear posture for a new age in which rogue states and terrorist organizations are greater threats than traditional powers like Russia and China.

It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the cold war.

For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

Those threats, Mr. Obama argued, could be deterred with “a series of graded options,” a combination of old and newly designed conventional weapons.

“I’m going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure,” he said in the interview in the Oval Office. (Barf)

White House officials said the new strategy would include the option of reconsidering the use of nuclear retaliation against a biological attack, if the development of such weapons reached a level that made the United States vulnerable to a devastating strike.

Mr. Obama’s new strategy is bound to be controversial, both among conservatives who have warned against diluting the United States’ most potent deterrent and among liberals who were hoping for a blanket statement that the United States would never be the first to use nuclear weapons.

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#1. To: All (#0)

For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons

Of what possible benefit is there in announcing to our enemies what we will not do if they attack us with WMDs? This asshole White House Resident is bat shit crazy.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-04-06   8:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Bigot Boy On Bozo (#0)

No one has the balls to use 'em...what good are they?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-06   9:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: dont eat that (#1)

This is like putting a sign in your front yard that states 'Gun Free Zone' on a international scale. We all know which house is going to get hit first in the neighborhood.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-06   10:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: dont eat that (#1)

Of what possible benefit is there in announcing to our enemies what we will not do if they attack us with WMDs?

Potentially it removes the justification for developing nuclear weapons for defensive purposes.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   12:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#2)

No one has the balls to use 'em...what good are they?

As long as we bluff with stuff we ain't got the balls to use, we risk our bluff will be called.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   12:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#5)

I like how I put it...if only because our nuclear bluff, as far as I am concerned, was called on 9/11/01.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-06   12:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#4)

Potentially it removes the justification for developing nuclear weapons for defensive purposes.

What's that supposed to mean?

You think Iran, Russia, China, and now Venezuela are going to scale back their defensive and OFFENSIVE nuclear ambitions because our dumbass President has invited terrorists to attack us with WMDs while giving them assurance we won't do use our maximum capabilities against them? We might not use our maximum capabilities, but only an idiot would preemptively take them off the table.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-04-06   12:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: dont eat that (#7)

The brain dead trust China, Russia, Iran, not to mention North Korea, and Baby Hugo down Venezuela way.

Nobody ever began a war with America because we were too strong.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-06   13:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#8)

Nobody ever began a war with America because we were too strong.

????????????

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-06   13:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#8)

As was said best in the other article on this I posted:

"That we are a country with the capacity to wipe out any other country, and that we have leaders crazy enough to do it if provoked, has been a cornerstone of United States diplomacy and self defense since those two bombs we dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

dont eat that  posted on  2010-04-06   13:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: dont eat that (#7)

You think Iran, Russia, China, and now Venezuela are going to scale back their defensive and OFFENSIVE nuclear ambitions because our dumbass President has invited terrorists to attack us with WMDs while giving them assurance we won't do use our maximum capabilities against them?

Russia agreed to do so.

China already has the advantage because they do our manufacturing.

Iran has already been engaged by us in war by proxy so I guess when George did that preemptive war thing and made them part of the axis of evil, they thought they better get ready.

Venezuela - nothin like George's thumbs up when yer ousted in a little coup to make a guy feel threatened especially when yer sittin on oil.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   13:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#11)

Russia agreed to do so.

And you buy that? Right now, they are negotiating with Hugo to supply him with nuclear materials.

China already has the advantage because they do our manufacturing.

Has nothing to do with the fact that they won't be disarming.

Iran has already been engaged by us in war by proxy so I guess when George did that preemptive war thing and made them part of the axis of evil, they thought they better get ready.

How juvenile. Ask Israel how far appeasing Muslims gets you.

Venezuela - nothin like George's thumbs up when yer ousted in a little coup to make a guy feel threatened especially when yer sittin on oil.

The guy has produced massive violence in Venezuela and a butchered economy complete with massive brownouts and shortages. He is jailing political opponents, including judges who make rulings he doesn't like. He is bed with the left wing Colombian drug lords. And you are dumb enough to think Bush is causing him to act the way he is? Bush Derangment Syndrome brain rot at its finest.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-04-06   13:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: dont eat that (#12)

Goofysmom apparently isn't a big fan of history. Remember when 'Russia' agreed to a peace agreement with Nazi Germany?

Sheesh...Russia is the only nation on earth thats attacked every one of its common border neighbors in the last century from what I can tell, including China.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-06   13:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#13)

Goofysmom apparently isn't a big fan of history. Remember when 'Russia' agreed to a peace agreement with Nazi Germany?

Sheesh...Russia is the only nation on earth thats attacked every one of its common border neighbors in the last century from what I can tell, including China.

What's even goofier is the idea that the Iranian mullahs and Chavez would be just peachy with us and good global neighbors if Bush hadn't been so mean to them.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-04-06   13:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: dont eat that (#12)

Right now, they are negotiating with Hugo to supply him with nuclear materials.

The guy has produced massive violence in Venezuela and a butchered economy complete with massive brownouts and shortages. He is jailing political opponents, including judges who make rulings he doesn't like. He is bed with the left wing Colombian drug lords. And you are dumb enough to think Bush is causing him to act the way he is? Bush Derangment Syndrome brain rot at its finest.

So then you are opposed to Russia supplying Venezuela with a nuclear power plant to address the brownouts?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   13:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#15)

So then you are opposed to Russia supplying Venezuela with a nuclear power plant to address the brownouts?

Nuclear power plant, my ass.

It doesn't take 20-20 vision to see what's going on.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-04-06   13:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: dont eat that (#14)

Or the notion that the 'only reason' Jihadist attack us is our support of Israel.

Thats exactly BACKWARDS, as the Jihadist have made clear for the last three decades. They view Israel as a 'symptom' not 'the problem'. They define the existence of a nation that guarantees religeous freedom, America, as THE PROBLEM.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-04-06   13:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Boofer (#13)

Goofysmom

You're insulting a child, Boofer. Good job, asshole...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-06   14:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Boofer (#17) (Edited)

They define the existence of a nation that guarantees religeous freedom, America, as THE PROBLEM.

Bullshit. That "they hate us for our freedoms" nonsense is absolute horsehit. The West has had trade ties with Wahabbists and their ancestors alone for over two milleniums...

/dumbfuck

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-06   14:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Boofer (#13) (Edited)

Remember when 'Russia' agreed to a peace agreement with Nazi Germany?

Actually, they agreed to a detente. Stalin wanted eastern Europe and the eastern Scandanavian states and the pact gave some of it to him. One of the least known aspects of WWII is that once this pact was signed, Stalin invaded his side of Poland, the Baltic nations and Finland ALL WITH GERMANY'S APPROVAL.

The short story to this is that Russia probably would have taken all of Poland and eventually the Polish Corridor pushing Germany out of all of Eastern Europe. In other words, the case can be made that Germany invaded Russia before Russia invaded Germany.

And, btw, Russia totally hoodwinked the West, read Churchill, into believing that Stalin's "adventurism" was to keep Germany in check. It's here that the roots of Chuchill's eventual hatred and distrust of Stalin is found.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-06   15:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#13)

Goofysmom apparently isn't a big fan of history. Remember when 'Russia' agreed to a peace agreement with Nazi Germany?

Are you referring to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pac?

Didn't Hitler attack Russia?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   18:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#20)

Oh darn. you beat me to it.

Hitler always considered them Eastern Europeans to be inferior and had plans for their termination to make room for the master race.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   19:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#22)

He played to Stalin's ego. "We'll share Europe"...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-04-06   19:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#23)

Sort of like back in the old days when Spain and Portugal agreed to share the world.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   20:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#18)

You're insulting a child, Boofer. Good job, asshole...

Isn't that just like a bully - get to the mom by attacking the child.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-04-06   20:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dwarf (#18)

You're insulting a child,

Piss off....everyone with over a room temp IQ insults you ya gaping barack love juice goblet.

F'ing moron.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy...AKA Admiral Dwarf who has "shot at living things"...."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-04-06   23:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: e_type_jag (#26)

Take a hike. Many folks will thank you.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-04-06   23:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#27)

Take a hike.

Um........no.

But, feel free to die tonight so you don't have to see my posts:)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy...AKA Admiral Dwarf who has "shot at living things"...."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-04-06   23:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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