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Source: aisle.org URL Source: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm Published: May 28, 2006 Author: unattributed Post Date: 2006-05-28 11:11:23 by A K A Stone Keywords: pentagon, 911, cover up Views: 17596 Comments: 35 As everyone knows, on 11 September, less than an hour after the attack on the World Trade Center, an airplane collided with the Pentagon. The Associated Press first reported that a booby-trapped truck had caused the explosion. The Pentagon quickly denied this. The official US government version of events still holds. Here's a little game for you: Take a look at these photographs and try to find evidence to corroborate the official version. It's up to you to Hunt the Boeing! Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 27. #1. To: All, ironsage (#0) For your enlightenment. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-28   11:26:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: A K A Stone (#1) Heres another game..... Find pictures of the towers after math. Find the planes. IronSage  posted on  2006-05-28   15:38:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: IronSage (#2) Find pictures of the towers after math. Find the planes. What are you talking about. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-28   16:06:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: A K A Stone (#3) blown up airplanes. IronSage  posted on  2006-05-28   16:18:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: IronSage (#4) I think the point AK was making is this. Go look at the site he posted. Look at the hole. It isn't big enough to fit a boeing in there. So the wreckage must be outside. You know seats, luggage etc. But it isn't there. A boeing did not hit the pentagon. Have you done much research on this subject? Or you one who just believes what the MSM tells you to believe? Thinking for yourself is an empowering experience. _V_  posted on  2006-05-28   19:22:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: _V_ (#9) Got the point, did you get mine? Look up, see the black helicopters. IronSage  posted on  2006-05-28   19:42:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: IronSage (#10) Got the point, did you get mine? Look up, see the black helicopters. I was shown a site last year sating all the facts and had videos on how it couldnt have been a palne that blew up the pentagon. There is actually a shot where you can see an objest that looks like a missle hurdling towards the pentagon. There is also a site where it shows a sloed down version of the towers being blown up almost as if bombs were set up on each level. master_of_disaster  posted on  2006-05-28   19:47:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: master_of_disaster, ironsage (#11) Did you watch the clip in post 6 of this thread. The fireman cleaerly said there were bombs in the building. Here is another fireman saying the same thing. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/FDNY-explosions.mov and another http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/heavy.duty.explosion.wmv and audio from CNN talking about bombs planted in the building. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SecondaryDevices.wma A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-28   19:51:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: A K A Stone (#12) Did you watch the clip in post 6 of this thread. The fireman cleaerly said there were bombs in the building. Here is another fireman saying the same thing. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/FDNY-explosions.mov and another http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/heavy.duty.explosion.wmv and audio from CNN talking about bombs planted in the building. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SecondaryDevices.wma The great evidence that Bush bombed the WTC. IronSage  posted on  2006-05-28   22:04:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: IronSage (#25) The great evidence that Bush bombed the WTC. No. Just a very small part of the puzzle. Thousands of more things like this. LIterally. It is evidence of a possiblity of bombs being planted. The official government story is that the beams failed because of heat. Even though this never happened in ANY steel framed building in the history of the world. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-28   22:12:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: A K A Stone (#26) How many steel framed buildings as large as the world trade center were hit by airplanes in the history of the world? IronSage  posted on  2006-05-28   22:15:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 27. #29. To: IronSage (#27) How many steel framed buildings as large as the world trade center were hit by airplanes in the history of the world? After the planes hit, the wtc stood for more what 45 min hour or whatever. The load was already shifted and stabalized. Buildings don't just fall straight down either. Add to the explosions that can clearly be seen going off during its collapse. Add to that building 7 which wasn't even hit that day also collapsed. That was where some government spooks worked out of. Also this According to Hyman Brown, a University of Colorado civil engineering professor and the World Trade Center's construction manager, 1 and 2 World Trade Center were designed to survive an impact and resulting fires from a collision by the largest commercial aircraft at the time, a Boeing 707-340. 1 Contrary to widely promoted misconceptions, the 767-200s used on 9-11 were only slightly larger than 707s. The above graphic from Chapter 1 of FEMA's Report shows the sizes of a 707 and a 767 relative to the footprint of a WTC tower. 2 Flight 11 and Flight 175 were Boeing 767-200s. Although a 767-200 has a slightly wider body than a 707, the two models are very similar in overall size, weight and fuel capacity. property Boeing 707-340 Boeing 767-200 fuel capacity 23,000 gallons 23,980 gallons max takeoff weight 328,060 lbs 395,000 lbs empty weight 137,562 lbs 179,080 lbs wingspan 145.75 ft 156.08 ft wing area 3010 ft^2 3050 ft^2 length 152.92 ft 159.17 ft cruise speed 607 mph 530 mph Given the differences in cruise speeds, a 707 in normal flight would actually have more kinetic energy than a 767, despite the slightly smaller size. Note the similar fuel capacities of both aircraft. The 767s used on September 11th were estimated to be carrying about 10,000 gallons of fuel each at the time of impact, only about 40% of the capacity of a 707. Like All Skyscrapers, the Twin Towers Were Over-Engineered One aspect of engineering that is not widely understood is that structures are over-engineered as a matter of standard practice. Steel structures like bridges and buildings are typically designed to withstand five times anticipated static loads and 3 times anticipated dynamic loads. The anticipated loads are the largest ones expected during the life of the structure, like the worst hurricane or earthquake occurring while the floors are packed with standing-room-only crowds. Given that September 11th was not a windy day, and that there were not throngs of people in the upper floors, the critical load ratio was probably well over 10, meaning that more than nine-tenths of the columns at the same level would have to fail before the weight of the top could have overcome the support capacity of the remaining columns. There is evidence that the Twin Towers were designed with an even greater measure of reserve strength than typical large buildings. According to the calculations of engineers who worked on the Towers' design, all the columns on one side of a Tower could be cut, as well as the two corners and some of the columns on each adjacent side, and the building would still be strong enough to withstand a 100-mile-per-hour wind. 3 Frank Demartini's Statement Frank A. Demartini, on-site construction manager for the World Trade Center, spoke of the resilience of the towers in an interview recorded on January 25, 2001. The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door -- this intense grid -- and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting. Demartini, who had an office on the 88th floor of the North Tower, has been missing since the 9/11/01 attack, having remained in the North Tower to assist in the evacuation. 4 The Richard Roth Telegram On Feburary 13, 1965, real estate baron Lawrence Wien called reporters to his office to charge that the design of the Twin Towers was structurally unsound. Many suspected that his allegation was motivated by a desire to derail the planned World Trade Center skyscrapers to protect the value of his extensive holdings, which included the Empire State Building. In response to the charge, Richard Roth, partner at Emery Roth & Sons, the architectural firm that was designing the Twin Towers, fired back with a three-page telegram containing the following details. 5 THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS CARRIED OUT BY THE FIRM OF WORTHINGTON, SKILLING, HELLE & JACKSON IS THE MOST COMPLETE AND DETAILED OF ANY EVER MADE FOR ANY BUILDING STRUCTURE. THE PRELIMINARY CALCULATIONS ALONE COVER 1,200 PAGES AND INVOLVE OVER 100 DETAILED DRAWINGS. ... 4. BECAUSE OF ITS CONFIGURATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THAT OF A STEEL BEAM 209' DEEP, THE TOWERS ARE ACTUALLY FAR LESS DARING STRUCTURALLY THAN A CONVENTIONAL BUILDING SUCH AS THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING WERE THE SPINE OR BRACED AREA OF THE BUILDING IS FAR SMALLER IN RELATION TO ITS HEIGHT. ... 5. THE BUILDING AS DESIGNED IS SIXTEEN TIMES STIFFER THAN A CONVENTIONAL STRUCTURE. THE DESIGN CONCEPT IS SO SOUND THAT THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE IN HIS DESIGN WITHOUT ADVERSELY AFFECTING THE ECONOMICS OF THE STRUCTURE. ... At the time the Twin Towers were built, the design approach of moving the support columns to the perimeter and the core, thereby creating large expanses of unobstructed floor space, was relatively new, and unique for a skyscraper. However, that approach is commonplace in contemporary skyscrapers. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-28 22:20:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 27. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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