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Title: Republicans Were For Obama's Health Insurance Rule Before They Were Against It
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/27/republicans-were-fo
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Published: Mar 27, 2010
Author: RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR
Post Date: 2010-03-27 10:43:09 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 197
Comments: 13

WASHINGTON — Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it.

The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.

Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed.

Republicans say Obama and the Democrats co-opted their original concept, minus a mechanism they proposed for controlling costs. More than a dozen GOP attorneys general are determined to challenge the requirement in federal court as unconstitutional.

Starting in 2014, the new law will require nearly all Americans to have health insurance through an employer, a government program or by buying it directly. That year, new insurance markets will open for business, health plans will be required to accept all applicants and tax credits will start flowing to millions of people, helping them pay the premiums.

Those who continue to go without coverage will have to pay a penalty to the IRS, except in cases of financial hardship. Fines vary by income and family size. For example, a single person making $45,000 would pay an extra $1,125 in taxes when the penalty is fully phased in, in 2016.

Conservatives today say that's unacceptable. Not long ago, many of them saw a national mandate as a free-market route to guarantee coverage for all Americans – the answer to liberal ambitions for a government-run entitlement like Medicare. Most experts agree some kind of requirement is needed in a reformed system because health insurance doesn't work if people can put off joining the risk pool until they get sick.

In the early 1970s, President Richard Nixon favored a mandate that employers provide insurance. In the 1990s, the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, embraced an individual requirement. Not anymore.

"The idea of an individual mandate as an alternative to single-payer was a Republican idea," said health economist Mark Pauly of the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. In 1991, he published a paper that explained how a mandate could be combined with tax credits – two ideas that are now part of Obama's law. Pauly's paper was well-received – by the George H.W. Bush administration.

"It could have been the basis for a bipartisan compromise, but it wasn't," said Pauly. "Because the Democrats were in favor, the Republicans more or less had to be against it."

Obama rejected a key part of Pauly's proposal: doing away with the tax-free status of employer-sponsored health care and replacing it with a standard tax credit for all Americans. Labor strongly opposes that approach because union members usually have better-than-average coverage and suddenly would have to pay taxes on it. But many economists believe it's a rational solution to America's health care dilemma since it would raise enough money to cover the uninsured and nudge people with coverage into cost-conscious plans.

Romney's success in Massachusetts with a bipartisan health plan that featured a mandate put the idea on the table for the 2008 presidential candidates.

Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, who failed in the 1990s to require employers to offer coverage, embraced the individual requirement, an idea advocated by her Republican opponents in the earlier health care debate.

"Hillary Clinton believed strongly in universal coverage," said Neera Tanden, her top health care adviser in the 2008 Democratic campaign. "I said to her, 'You are not going to be able to say it's universal coverage unless you have a mandate.' She said, 'I don't want to run unless it's universal coverage.'"

Obama was not prepared to go that far. His health care proposal in the campaign required coverage for children, not adults. Clinton hammered him because his plan didn't guarantee coverage for all. He shot back that health insurance is too expensive to force people to buy it.

Obama remained cool to an individual requirement even once in office. But Tanden, who went on to serve in the Obama administration, said the first sign of a shift came in a letter to congressional leaders last summer in which Obama said he'd be open to the idea if it included a hardship waiver. Obama openly endorsed a mandate in his speech to a joint session of Congress in September.

It remains one of the most unpopular parts of his plan. Even the insurance industry is unhappy. Although the federal government will be requiring Americans to buy their products – and providing subsidies worth billions – insurers don't think the penalties are high enough.

Tanden, now at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank, says she's confident the mandate will work. In Massachusetts, coverage has gone up and only a tiny fraction of residents have been hit with fines.

Brown, whose election to replace the late Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy almost led to the collapse of Obama's plan, said his opposition to the new law is over tax increases, Medicare cuts and federal overreach on a matter that should be left up to states. Not so much the requirement, which he voted for as a state lawmaker.

"In Massachusetts, it helped us deal with the very real problem of uncompensated care," Brown said.

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

Huffington Post rotflmao.

Its the economy, stupid.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-27   11:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

Heritage Foundation:

But as part of that [social] contract, it is also reasonable to expect residents of the society who can do so to contribute an appropriate amount to their own health care. This translates into a requirement on individuals to enroll themselves and their dependents in at least a basic health plan – one that at the minimum should protect the rest of society from large and unexpected medical costs incurred by the family. And as any social contract, there would also be an obligation on society. To the extent that the family cannot reasonably afford reasonable basic coverage, the rest of society, via government, should take responsibility for financing that minimum coverage.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-03-27   17:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#2)

Its the economy, stupid.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-27   19:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#3)

Its the economy, stupid.

Yep:

U.S. Stocks Rise in Longest S&P 500 Winning Streak Since August

March 27 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks rose for a fourth week, sending the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index to its longest winning streak since August, on speculation the economy is recovering from the worst contraction since the 1930s

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-03-27   19:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4)

Its the economy, and if you think the stockmarket is the economy...you are stupid.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-27   20:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#5)

Its the economy, and if you think the stockmarket is the economy...you are stupid.

Chuckles....I see the obama gerbil worked it's way out of baracks stink tunnel to post more happy hopey changey bloviations....

Between this 2 legged vertical obama yardsign and the bulging foreheaded gasbag dwarf, it seems baracks floor all around him must be licked spotless.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy......."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-03-27   22:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: e_type_jag, badeye (#6)

Released: Thursday, March 18, 2010

The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the U.S. increased 0.1 percent in February, following a 0.3 percent gain in January, and a 1.2 percent rise in December.

Says Ataman Ozyildirim, Economist at The Conference Board: "The LEI for the U.S. has risen rapidly for almost a year now and it has reached its highest level. But, the sharp pick up in the LEI appears to be stabilizing. As the economy moves from recovery into early phases of an expansion, the leading economic index points to moderately improving economic conditions in the near term. Correspondingly, the coincident economic index has been rising since July 2009, albeit slightly because of continued weakness in employment."

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-03-27   23:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#7)

GO, I don't post to you....I make fun of you and the other lockstepping nazi regressive lemmings.

No need to ping me as frankly I don't really care for your "bagdhad bob" spin....go back to floorlicking barack's slime trails ok?

Your tagline is positively hilarious BTW....considering you as the source:):)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And the latest Eisteinian revelation from LF's resident Barack poodleboy......."Yeah, and Oswald was a right winger, too. He was... war posted on 2010-03-22 20:12:36

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-03-27   23:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Boofer, go65 (#5)

A month or so ago you were all verklempt at how the stock market was a direct reflection of the economy and the fully invested retirees and those about to be were suffering.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace Day 34 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 32 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-03-27   23:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: e_type_jag (#6)

Great example of what happens when you live by 'talking points'. As I've noted previously, we'll limp along this year economically. The real implosion begins in 2011. You throw this much cash into the system, it provides a false 'floor' upon which some are attempting to build a political 'house'.

Whats amusing is the second 'plunge' will occur as Owe-bama tries to get reelected. If I had to guess, we're going to see a repeat in 2012 of 1980. meaning a seated President will be seriously challenged in the primaries by somebody within his own party, ala Teddy 'Drown Em!' Kennedy v Jimmy 'Malaise' Carter.

The only difference is the economy wasn't this fucked up in 1980.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-28   11:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: e_type_jag (#8)

Being a Democrat in 2010 means you ignore reality.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-28   11:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#5)

Its the economy, and if you think the stockmarket is the economy...you are stupid.

I think what people are not realizing (or ignoring) is that there has been a direct correlation between the weakening of the dollar and the rise of the stock market (and oil prices).

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-28   12:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: dont eat that (#12)

bingo. Its equally obvious some want to pretend they don't understand this, purely for partisan reasons.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-28   12:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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