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Title: Republicans Dealt Blow on Health Care by U.S. Senate Official
Source: Bloomberg
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601010&sid=alRxAuQSxXHw
Published: Mar 23, 2010
Author: By Laura Litvan
Post Date: 2010-03-23 12:27:46 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 183
Comments: 4

March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The Senate parliamentarian dealt Republicans a setback in their bid to derail the Democratic health-care overhaul package, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said.

Parliamentarian Alan Frumin issued informal guidance to Republicans yesterday that he doesn’t agree with them that a proposed tax on high-end health insurance plans violates Senate budget rules, said Don Stewart, a spokesman for McConnell, a Kentucky Republican. Frumin couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.

Republicans said the so-called Cadillac plan tax has an impact on the Social Security trust fund that violates the 1974 Budget Act.

Republicans plan other challenges under a Senate rule that bars use of the budget reconciliation process for provisions that have only an incidental impact on the budget, Stewart said. That includes a separate challenge to the tax on high-end health plans, he said.

At issue are House changes to the most sweeping health-care legislation in four decades, which rewrites the rules governing medical industries and ensures that tens of millions of uninsured Americans will get medical coverage. The House passed the Senate’s version on March 21, which sent that measure to President Barack Obama for his signature into law. The House then approved the companion reconciliation measure of changes that must clear the Senate.

Under the rules, the reconciliation measure can pass with a simple majority of 51 votes. Most legislation in the Senate is subjected to vote-delaying filibusters by opponents, which take 60 votes to overcome.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

I don't think anyone expects the Republicans in the Senate to 'win' any of these procedural objections.

What will be interesting to watch is if the Supreme Court takes one of the cases that will be filed against this insane nationalization of healthcare requiring Americans to BUY something they decide tTHEY don't WANT.

Interesting debate on that aspect. We'll see. Seems legal eagles are almost exactly decided on the outcome, but almost uniformly expect the USSC to hear the case ASAP.

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Badeye  posted on  2010-03-23   12:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1) (Edited)

What will be interesting to watch is if the Supreme Court takes one of the cases that will be filed against this insane nationalization of healthcare requiring Americans to BUY something they decide tTHEY don't WANT.

If the argument is "nationalization" then there is no argument. Nothing is any more nationalized today than it was last Saturday.

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war  posted on  2010-03-23   12:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#1)

What will be interesting to watch is if the Supreme Court takes one of the cases that will be filed against this insane nationalization of healthcare requiring Americans to BUY something they decide tTHEY don't WANT.

I see two possible outcomes there:

One, the requirement to "buy" something will simply be redefined as a tax. The FEDGOVs power to tax is never in question. or,

Two, the provision to "buy" something will be dropped. They've still got the rest of the bill in place (the proverbial nose under the tent)

Which has been the desire all along.

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Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-23   12:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#3)

Maybe so. Then again, a USSC that was insulted in front of the entire world just over two months ago might be in the mood to bitch slap the Executive Branch.

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Badeye  posted on  2010-03-23   13:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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