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Title: Obama and the Democrats Just Raised the Price and Lowered the Quality of Your Health Insurance. Give Them the Proper Thanks.
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... 3775504575135881813148208.html
Published: Mar 22, 2010
Author: WSJ
Post Date: 2010-03-22 13:11:53 by dont eat that
Keywords: None
Views: 698
Comments: 22

While the subsidies don't start until 2014, many of the new taxes and insurance mandates will take effect within six months. The first result will be turmoil in the insurance industry, as small insurers in particular find it impossible to make money under the new rules. A wave of consolidation is likely, and so are higher premiums as insurers absorb the cost of new benefits and the mandate to take all comers.

Liberals will try to blame insurers once again, but the public shouldn't be fooled. WellPoint, Aetna and the rest are from now on going to be public utilities, essentially creatures of Congress and the Health and Human Services Department. When prices rise and quality and choice suffer, the fault will lie with ObamaCare.

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#1. To: dont eat that (#0)

Anyone who doesn't see this as the just the first step to single-payer isn't paying attention.

In one of his few honest moments, barry has said as much

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-22   13:27:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#1)

Anyone who doesn't see this as the just the first step to single-payer isn't paying attention.

I certainly hope so.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-03-23   0:07:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#8)

Anyone who doesn't see this as the just the first step to single-payer isn't paying attention.

I certainly hope so.

At least you're honest about it.

Let me pose the same questions to you that I posed to go65:

At what point does cradle-to-grave socialism become unsustainable?, and,

what happens then?

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-23   10:43:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#10)

At what point does cradle-to-grave socialism become unsustainable?, and,

what happens then?

I don't know. I've been waiting for Europe's economic demise for decades now.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-03-23   19:34:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#14)

At what point does cradle-to-grave socialism become unsustainable?, and what happens then?

I don't know. I've been waiting for Europe's economic demise for decades now.

Here's some facts for you:

The USA's military expenditures are 4.06 percent of its GDP

France's 2.60 percent; UK 2.4 percent; Norway 1.9 percent; Italy 1.8 percent; Netherlands 1.6 percent; Germany 1.5 percent; Denmark 1.3 percent; Spain 1.2 percent; Iceland 0.0 percent. Link

So I'll tell you what: If you and your fellow socialists come up with a plan to slash the USA's military budgets to European levels (i.e. 2 percent of GDP or less) so we can use the money for socialized medicine, I'll come on board.

And I'll bet a lot of others would, too.

If we're going to have this bullshit, let's at least pay for it.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-23   21:17:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#15)

If we're going to have this bullshit, let's at least pay for it.

That's not the way we do things here. Not for wars and not for social spending.

We just spend the money now and pass the costs on to the future. It's been that way a looooooooong time now, but it's only recently that the term "socialism" has been applied to it.

I'm sure once the Republicans are back in power, all this "socialism" talk will just evaporate.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-03-23   21:25:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Skip Intro (#16)

That's not the way we do things here. Not for wars and not for social spending.

We just spend the money now and pass the costs on to the future. It's been that way a looooooooong time now,

The day of reckoning may be fast approaching.
but it's only recently that the term "socialism" has been applied to it.
Hmmmmmmmm. . . help me out here. There was a program (for retirees, I believe) that was started by FDR back in, oh, about 1936. It started out small, and it was flush with money because way more was paid into it than was taken out of it. But it changed drastically over the decades. Now, way more is taken out of it than is paid into it. And it covers a lot of things that have nothing to do with retirement. Last I checked, it was almost bankrupt.

What was that program called? The second word was Security. The first began with S. Soc - Social. Yeah, that's it. SOCIAL

I'm sure once the Republicans are back in power, all this "socialism" talk will just evaporate.
The republicans won't do squat. They never have, and they never will.

You have nothing to fear from republicans. About the only purpose they serve is to provide fodder for democrat fund raising letters*

*see Sarah Palin

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-23   21:53:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#18)

Hmmmmmmmm. . . help me out here. There was a program (for retirees, I believe) that was started by FDR back in, oh, about 1936. It started out small, and it was flush with money because way more was paid into it than was taken out of it. But it changed drastically over the decades. Now, way more is taken out of it than is paid into it. And it covers a lot of things that have nothing to do with retirement. Last I checked, it was almost bankrupt. What was that program called? The second word was Security. The first began with S. Soc - Social. Yeah, that's it. SOCIAL

Uh.... that's before it was used mainly for those with disabilities and evidently for those from other countries who put in a claim. The SS admin in 2006 used to brag on their website and when they put you on hold that they were servicing 400 million recipients.

mininggold  posted on  2010-03-23   22:11:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#19)

Uh.... that's before it was used mainly for those with disabilities and evidently for those from other countries who put in a claim.

Expanding its scope and growing beyond maintainability?

Isn't that one of the criticisms that **gasp** "right wingnuts" generally lodge against government programs?

You're not becoming a **gasp** right wingnut, are you?

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-23   22:19:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#20)

Expanding its scope and growing beyond maintainability?

Isn't that one of the criticisms that **gasp** "right wingnuts" generally lodge against government programs?

You're not becoming a **gasp** right wingnut, are you?

I was not in favor of the plan that just passed. I was in favor of it being discussed..... something you and the posters you troll with seem to have a problem with.

mininggold  posted on  2010-03-24   1:00:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#21)

I was not in favor of the plan that just passed.
Why not? But too bad, I suppose. You're going to have to suffer under it just like the rest of us.
I was in favor of it being discussed.....
Okay. But it's been "being discussed" for over a year now. What was there about it that you think you needed more discussion on?
something you and the posters you troll with seem to have a problem with.
Awwwwwww, there you go again. And we were getting along so well, too.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-24   6:21:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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