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Title: Obama Health Care Bill Votes Secured; Tea Party Racism Unites Democrats
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SF GATE
URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs ... tail??blogid=95&entry_id=59589
Published: Mar 21, 2010
Author: SF GATE
Post Date: 2010-03-21 19:25:00 by Brian S
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Views: 4484
Comments: 28
The new news is that according to CNN the 216 Democratic votes to pass the Obama health care bill have been secured and that's in no small measure to this impassioned speech The President gave to the House Democrats Saturday: Obama's health care reform speech was a great one because it was from the heart, emotive, unscripted, and timely. President Obama's candidacy was a reminder of what it meant to be a Democrat. And while some may feel President Obama lost his Democratic way, no one who's listened to his speech can argue that he's found his path. Heath Care Reform is an idea who's time came long ago. Today, something can be done about it. What's sad are those I call "Couch Potato Conservatives who have resulted to racist name calling and insults. Over on Twitter there's a really angry guy named Stan Solomon @stansolomon who has to toss insults at anyone who backs Heath Care Reform. Or take this guy with the Texas shirt who's so hateful he has to attack blacks, but obviously can't spell. The perfect representative for Couch Potato Conservatives. And of course yesterday we had news of Tea Party members tossing the N-word and spitting at members of Congress like Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) and Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.). It's that action as well that unified Democrats. Here's Representative Tim Ryan expressing his outrage over the incident: And here's a video of the scene that Rep. Ryan's talking about, or at least part of it. What can be seen from this are people blocking and booing at the members of The Congressional Black Congress who are on the way to The Capital. It's events like this one, and the behavior of Tea Party People, that have united Democrats: The Health Care Bill will pass and it will not result in higher taxes or jail time for those who don't get care. But it will work to lower premiums and produce greater access for all who wish to get health care. That's what's needed most. Stay tuned.
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
The majority of Americans were against this particular healthcare bill. The arrogance required to suggest they are all racists is stunning.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Nope: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/87875-kaiser-poll-shows-uptick-in-support-for-health-reform And since most polls show people support the provisions of the bill, expect overall approval for the bill to go up. Frum is right, the GOP will not be able to go to the American people and say "Vote for us and we'll restore the ability of Insurance companies to cancel your policy!"
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
You're right. We're stupid for dis-believing. I've decided I'm going to be onboard with Socialism now. Where's my check? Where's my health-care. I I I I me me me me Just one question: At what point does cradle-to-grave socialism become unsustainable? And what happens then? (oops . . . that was two questions. Sue me. Oh you can't. You'll have to sue the gov't instead, cuz I have no assets. Sorry. HAHAHAHAHAHA)
Obammy sez it Brian, you and your ilk are plainly, and as always full of sh*t. The Dems are United by LIES. BY definition, the Congressional BLACK Caucus is....Racist. And so is the Hispanic Caucus. And that goes for any another other Caucus defined by the color of their skin.
The hell they do. You as usual dwell in an alternative universe.
Good question, so far the experience of more socialized systems (like Costa Rica) is that they cost less and provide better care.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Is it your claims that: People are happy that their health care is not portable? People are happy that insurance is not affordable? People are happy that insurance companies can liberally define pre existing conditions and thus deny coverage? People are happy that insurance is sold in one size fits all pricing? People are happy that their coverage can be terminated when they suffer long term or catastrophic illnesses? People are happy that they cannot "shop" for companies and plans?
Day 29 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 27 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...
I reject the notion that the government has "taken over" health care.
Day 29 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 27 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...
Good question, so far the experience of more socialized systems (like Costa Rica) is that they cost less and provide better care. Area of Costa Rica - 19,560 sq. miles. (Smaller than W. Va, slightly larger than Maryland) Population of Costa Rica - 4,195,914 (July 2008 est.) Apples to oranges, don't you think?
Obammy sez it Yes, they were, GO65. The majority felt healthcare reform was necessary. Including me. But they overwhelmingly rejected THIS BILL. In poll after poll after poll.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
It has been demonstrated to goat boy that Costa Rica's PUBLIC health care sucks big time, and if you want decent health care there, you need to seek a private supplier, and goat boy continues to want to ignore that: For example; Matt Hogan, 35, co-founder of Finca Bella Vista, a sustainable treehouse community near the Osa Peninsula. In late 2009 he had a motorcycle accident, and was taken to the newly opened public hospital in Ciudad Cortéz. “All the newspapers had been boasting about the brand-new, state-of-the-art facilities and medical equipment, 300 clean new beds, and the rest,” says Matt. What the newspaper accounts failed to mention, according to Matt, was that all those new beds were serviced by only a few doctors who showed up only once in a while. Matt says he suffered serious neglect and misdiagnosis (they told him he was fine). Feeling anything but fine, he had himself driven by ambulance to San José and checked himself into private Clínica Bíblica. There he was found to have one collapsed lung and the other in mid-collapse, as well as severe internal bleeding in his chest cavity. The doctors at Bíblica said that if Matt had waited another day to seek proper care he most likely would have suffocated. Matt was very happy with the care he received at Bíblica, adding with a smile that “all the nurses were very attractive young Ticas.” __ Alaska native Alex Murray, 72 at the time of a fire that burned over 20 percent of his body, endured an extended hospital stay that also allowed him to compare private and public care in Costa Rica. “While expat friends with residency have had important procedures successfully performed at slight cost in the public system,” he says. “I recommend avoiding it in life-threatening situations if at all possible.” Alex was burning garden trash at his home in the Lake Arenal region when he spilled some gas, causing the fire to flare up and burn him over much of his body. Alex spent the next 20 days in two hospitals in the capital city of San Jose, first at the public Hospital San Juan de Dios, and then at private. “Of course,” he admits, “it’s a foregone conclusion that such a comparison is unfair to the underfunded public hospital, but the devil’s in the personal details.” Alex was first picked up by a Red Cross ambulance and taken to a clinic in nearby Tilarán. Then he was moved to the public hospital in Liberia (about an hour north), where the doctors decided to send him to the burn unit at San Juan de Dios (a public hospital) in the capital city of San José, 4 hours away. “Arriving in San Jose,” says Alex, “we should have directed the driver immediately to Bíblica or Clinica Católica [two private hospitals], but, ignorant of the quality of the public hospital and anxious to get treatment, we let the driver take us to the teeming mystery that is San Juan.” Three days at a Public Hospital: San Juan de Dios “In our three days there,” says Alex, “no doctor ever consulted us, though one led a group of students into my room each day. The nurses, male and female, sometimes seemed like the proverbial five or six workmen who stand around a pothole gabbing while one guy fills the hole. For the most part, they were not dedicated, not attentive, not very competent, and not sympathetic. They seemed the dregs of the nursing schools. A friendly nurse assigned to draw blood samples spent three days drilling mostly dry holes all over my landscape, partly due to my extremely low blood pressure. One rough middle-aged nurse told me that I was not much hurt nor in pain. I finally had to yell at her, “Don’t touch me. Don’t touch me.” She desisted, smiling to herself, it seemed. “A night crew came on and half-heartedly started to bathe me and change my dressings. Three stood on one side of the bed and made little come-hither motions with their fingers. Two stood on the other side and made little shooing gestures. Finally, they decided to help me turn. “They would not let my wife sleep in one of the three extra beds crowded into my room. Instead she spent her nights trying to sleep in a plastic chair. In the not-very-clean bathroom, she found bloody bandages in a corner.” Seventeen Days at a Private Hospital: Clínica Bíblica Alex and his wife decided that they needed to move him to a private facility. “When I was admitted to Clínica Bíblica,” he says, “I recognized immediately that here was a competent staff. The emergency room nurse quickly found a vein and soon had a set of color-coded vials filled with my blood. All staff were purposeful and attentive. “The next evening I began to rave and tried to tear off my bandages and leave the hospital. A doctor soon arrived and said my actions were due to a lack of oxygen to the brain. I was then moved to intensive care where a coma was induced and I was intubated, remaining thus for five days, not a reassuring sight for my four daughters who arrived from points around the globe. “I doubt that these measures would have been taken at San Juan de Dios. Three doctors tended me at Bíblica, one a burn doctor, one a plastic surgeon who moved skin from my thigh to my hip, and one a staff doctor. They each came by almost every day to talk with us. The nursing staff was a no-nonsense but friendly and attentive group, evidently the better graduates of the nursing schools. Midway through my stay, physical therapists began visiting daily to exercise my wasted muscles. When I left, I had lost 14 pounds and could walk only a few steps unassisted, but I was recovering.
I was perhaps being somewhat generous in allowing - in relatively small laboratories - that socialism MIGHT succeed. Though even in those few cases, I believe it will eventually collapse in upon itself. I don't believe he/she can cite a country the area and population size of the US where cradle-to-grave socialism has worked for an extended period of time. Not a country in which I would care to live, anyway.
Obammy sez it Is it your claims that: People rejected health care as portable? People rejected insurance as affordable? People rejected insurance companies no longer liberally defining pre existing conditions and thus able to deny coverage? People rejected insurance no longer being sold in one size fits all pricing? People rejected their coverage can no longer be terminated when they suffer long term or catastrophic illnesses? People rejected being empowered to "shop" for companies and plans?
Day 29 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 27 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...
lol, settle down already! If you'd learn to trust your government you'd have less stress and wouldn't need healthcare. No one is out to get you. They're trying to make this a better country. Relax. Relaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxx
Undoubtedly you've obvious refuse to read the link Bill D Berger posted regard 9/11 ... Luberator
If you'd learn to trust your government you'd have less stress and wouldn't need healthcare. No one is out to get you. They're trying to make this a better country. Relax. Relaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxx Today's my 57th birthday, so I won't be around that much longer to "enjoy" the wonders of cradle-to-grave socialism. Even with all it's faults, this was a pretty damn good country. We've just had piss-poor leaders for the last 70 years or so. It's inevitable - and human history shows - that without violent revolutions, governing bodies grow from smaller, less intrusive to larger, more intrusive. Such is the case here and, if you think about it, why should we be different?
Obammy sez it You'd have to understand the term before you could enjoy it.
Day 29 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 27 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...
Why not? 57 ain't that old. You got another 20 years left. It still is a good country. Great, even. Take the time you have left and enjoy the country. 99% of the people born on this planet since the beginning of time would switch places with you in an instant. Go forth and enjoy yourself.
Undoubtedly you've obvious refuse to read the link Bill D Berger posted regard 9/11 ... Luberator
Somalia seems to be free of big government intrusion, perhaps you'd prefer life there. Of course one of the conditions necessary for economic growth is stability.
Nope, per the KFF poll I posted, 49% supported THIS bill versus 46% who opposed. You guys seem to have completely forget Obama ran on healthcare reform as the centerpiece of his 2008 campaign, and outside the public option, he got just about everything he wanted, and told the country he supported
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Health care Polls: Rasmussen Reports 3/19 - 3/20 For 41 Against 54 FOX News 3/16 - 3/17 For 35 Against 55 PPP (D) 3/12 - 3/14 For 45 Against 49 NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 3/11 - 3/14 For 36 Against 48 Pew Research 3/10 - 3/14 For 38 Against 48 Associated Press/GfK 3/3 - 3/8 For 41 Against 43 Gallup 3/4 - 3/7 For 45 Against 48 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
You'll have to excuse Boof...he had a bad weekend beginning with believing - or if not believing, promoting - that CA experienced a population DECLINE over the last decade.
Day 29 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 27 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...
You have the only poll, and I question the data to say the least. The American people didn't want this. Now, you get to bask in the glow of a victory...enjoy it. Owe-Bama's poll numbers will undoubtedly go up over the next ten days to two weeks. But then the details will become 'common knowledge'. Enjoy it while it lasts.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
False. His centerpiece was fluff 'HOpe and Change'. Nice try no ceegar.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Wha...chuckle...huh? That's like claiming that the centerpiece of Boy Blunder's 2000 campaign was Compassionate Conservatism as opposed to tax cuts to destroy us fiscally... /dumbfuck
Day 29 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 27 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...
Obammy sez it China is a little short on human rights and environmental protections for my taste.
China is a little short on human rights and environmental protections for my taste. Well what the hell? All the more reason for you to go. Or don't you think the Chinese people deserve human rights and environmental protections? Make a difference! I'm sure the Chinese "ruling democrats" are waiting to hear from you!
Obammy sez it Awww look at you...you found the girls' sandbox... How nice...how wonderful...how fitting
Day 29 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 27 of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...
#2. To: Badeye (#1)
The majority of Americans were against this particular healthcare bill.
The latest poll by the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation found 46 percent of Americans support the healthcare bill and 42 percent oppose it.
#3. To: go65 (#2)
(Edited)
And since most polls show people support the provisions of the bill, expect overall approval for the bill to go up.
I me mine I me mine by the Beatles.
I believes it
an' that settles it!
#4. To: Brian S (#0)
Tea Party Racism Unites Democrats
#5. To: go65 (#2)
most polls show people support the provisions of the bill
#6. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#3)
Just one question: At what point does cradle-to-grave socialism become unsustainable?
#7. To: Liberator (#5)
#8. To: go65 (#6)
#9. To: go65 (#6)
Just one question: At what point does cradle-to-grave socialism become unsustainable?
Area of the 50 United States - 3,717,813 sq. miles
Population of USA - 308,918,000 (2010 est.)
I believes it
an' that settles it!
#10. To: go65 (#2)
#11. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#9)
#12. To: dont eat that, go65 (#11)
It has been demonstrated to goat boy that Costa Rica's PUBLIC health care sucks big time, and if you want decent health care there, you need to seek a private supplier, and goat boy continues to want to ignore that:
I believes it
an' that settles it!
#13. To: Badeye (#10)
#14. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12)
#15. To: Abu el Banat (#14)
lol, settle down already!
I believes it
an' that settles it!
#16. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#15)
(Edited)
so I won't be around that much longer to "enjoy" the wonders of cradle-to-grave socialism.
#17. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#15)
(Edited)
Today's my 57th birthday, so I won't be around that much longer ...
#18. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#15)
It's inevitable - and human history shows - that without violent revolutions, governing bodies grow from smaller, less intrusive to larger, more intrusive.
#19. To: Badeye (#10)
But they overwhelmingly rejected THIS BILL.
#20. To: go65 (#19)
#21. To: go65 (#19)
#22. To: go65 (#19)
#23. To: go65 (#19)
You guys seem to have completely forget Obama ran on healthcare reform as the centerpiece of his 2008 campaign
#24. To: Boofer (#23)
(Edited)
#25. To: lucysmom (#18)
Somalia seems to be free of big government intrusion, perhaps you'd prefer life there.
Nah - anarchy doesn't appeal to me. But thanks for playing. Of course one of the conditions necessary for economic growth is stability.
China has fantastic economic growth and it is stable. Perhaps you'd prefer life there.
I believes it
an' that settles it!
#26. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#25)
#27. To: lucysmom (#26)
China has fantastic economic growth and it is stable. Perhaps you'd prefer life there.
I believes it
an' that settles it!
#28. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#25)
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