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Title: State of the health care debate: Talk radio attacks an 11-year old
Source: McClatchey
URL Source: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/ ... of-the-health-care-debate.html
Published: Mar 18, 2010
Author: McClatchey
Post Date: 2010-03-18 21:37:21 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 27262
Comments: 58

WASHINGTON — Conservative talk show hosts and columnists have ridiculed an 11-year-old Washington state boy's account of his mother's death as a "sob story" exploited by the White House and congressional Democrats like a "kiddie shield" to defend their health care legislation.

Marcelas Owens, whose mother got sick, lost her job, lost her health insurance and died, said Thursday he's taking the attacks from Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin in stride.

"My mother always taught me they can have their own opinion but that doesn't mean they are right," Owens, who lives in Seattle, said in an interview.

Owens' grandmother, Gina, who watched her daughter die, isn't quite so generous.

"These are adults, and he is an 11-year-old boy who lost his mother," Gina Owens said. "They should be ashamed."

Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., told Marcelas Owens' story to President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden at the White House health care summit last month. Murray also has spoken about it on the Senate floor. Last week, Owens was in the nation's capital to speak at a health care rally and to meet with Senate Democratic leadership.

Limbaugh, Beck and Malkin are skeptical about the story, saying there were other forms of medical help available after Owens' mother, Tifanny, lost her health insurance. They lambasted Democrats for using the story.

"Now this is unseemly, exploitative, an 11-year-old boy being forced to tell his story all over just to benefit the Democrat Party and Barack Obama," Limbaugh said on March 12, according to a transcript his show. "And, I would say this to Marcelas Owens: 'Well, your mom would still have died, because Obamacare doesn't kick in until 2014.'"

Beck, according to a transcript of his March 15 show, pointed out that Owens' recent trip to Washington was paid for by Healthcare of America, a group that has been lobbying for a health care overhaul.

"That's the George Soros-funded Obama-approved group fighting for health care," Beck said. "Since all of the groups are so concerned and involved now, may I ask where were you when Marcelas' mother was vomiting blood?"

Beck, who's from Mount Vernon, Wash., said there were plenty of programs in Washington state that could have helped Tifanny Owens.

Malkin dismissed Marcelas Owens as "one of Obama's youngest lobbyists" who has been "goaded by a left-wing activist grandmother," promoted by Murray and has become a regular on the "pro-Obamacare circuit."

Malkin also suggested there were other programs that could have helped Tifanny Owens, adding, "It's not clear that additional doctors' visits in the subsequent months would have prevented her death."

Tifanny Owens died in June 2007 of pulmonary hypertension, which is described as high blood pressure in the arteries of the lungs that can lead to heart failure. The disease is considered rare. While there's no cure, it can be treated.

The treatments can cost as much as $100,000 a year and must be "consistent and constant," said Katie Kroner, the director of advocacy and awareness for the Pulmonary Hypertension Association.

"It's extremely important to have health coverage," she said.

Owens was an assistant manager at a fast food restaurant when she became sick in September 2006. As she became sicker, she missed work and was eventually fired, leaving her without health insurance. She was treated twice in an emergency room and died at age 27 after a week of unconsciousness. Gina Owens has custody of Marcelas and his two younger sisters.

Gina Owens said her daughter didn't qualify for Medicaid. State officials said that without knowing the details, it was impossible to speculate on whether Tifanny Owens would have qualified.

Tifanny Owens might have been eligible for Washington state's basic health care plan, which is aimed at the working poor. The plan has had a long waiting list for some time, said Sharon Michael of the Washington state Health Care Authority.

"Right now, we have 100,000 people on the wait list," Michael said.

Limbaugh has gone after young people before. In 2007, he told listeners that Democrats were exploiting an 18-year-old Yup'ik Eskimo and that her congressional testimony of global warming made him want to "puke."

Murray said she was appalled at how vicious the health care debate has become.

"The mom in me is getting really mad," she said. "You don't tear apart an 11-year-old because his mom died."

Marcelas Owens said he'll never know if his mother might have lived if she had health insurance.

"At least if she had it she would've had a fighting chance," he said.

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#28. To: go65 (#0)

"The mom in me is getting really mad," she said. "You don't tear apart an 11-year-old because his mom died."

Nobody did this. Every comment about this matter, when you review it, has not one attack on the 11 year old.

There are a wide array of programs in Washington State to provide medical care to anyone that chooses to avail themselves of it. If this woman did not do so, obviously she fucked up big time.

Nobody is denied healthcare in this nation, especially in a life threatening situation. Nobody.

Bottom line is politicians should not be using CHILDREN in such a manner. To pretend if one side mentions 'children' and thereby you cannot question the point being made is absurd.

I feel sorry for the kid. Losing your mom at such and early age...the only thing worse is the mother seeing her child die before her in my view.

But its pretty obvious to anyone rational the mother made a fatal error here by not seeking medical treatment in a timely fashion. There is nothing in this insane healthcare bill that prevents stupidity on the part of the patient.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-19   10:20:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Badeye (#28)

There are a wide array of programs in Washington State to provide medical care to anyone that chooses to avail themselves of it. If this woman did not do so, obviously she fucked up big time.

so far nobody has produced an example of a program that would have helped her, the medicaid program she would have qualified for has a long wait list.

This is the vision of folks like yourself for healthcare: if you can't afford insurance or care, and you can't get help from charity, you die.

I don't see why the GOP is fussing, they should be holding this dead mother up as an example for the kind of change they want to bring to this country.

go65  posted on  2010-03-19   12:17:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: go65 (#34)

so far nobody has produced an example of a program that would have helped her, the medicaid program she would have qualified for has a long wait list.

I see. Its now MY responsibility? Get a grip, mom. She was an adult, in Washington State. Its on HER to take care of HER medical issues.

You nanny state types kill me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-19   12:34:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Boofer Nightengale (#35) (Edited)

Its on HER to take care of HER medical issues.

She did. Look where it got her.

And I will try to keep in mind how you folks opposed reform becauise of the false issue of "Death Panels". I will also recall how incensed you were when Grayson correctly pointed out that your health care policy is: GET SICK DIE QUICK.

war  posted on  2010-03-19   12:37:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war, fred mertz, badeye (#36)

And I will try to keep in mind how you folks opposed reform becauise of the false issue of "Death Panels". I will also recall how incensed you were when Grayson correctly pointed out that your health care policy is: GET SICK DIE QUICK.

That's the nut, on the one hand the GOP says they will oppose any cuts from medicare. On the other hand they argue that there shouldn't be any government assistance for the uninsured.

Maybe you can correlate those views, because I sure can't.

go65  posted on  2010-03-19   13:21:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: go65 (#40)

That's the nut, on the one hand the GOP says they will oppose any cuts from medicare.

For whatever you might think of Medicare, it is mostly used by people who have payed into the system their whole lives. Money is proposed to be stolen from the program to provide coverage for illegal aliens and deadbeats.

Medicare is almost insolvent as it is. So I guess the actual people who will be told to DIE QUICK will be the seniors who otherwise could have used Medicare.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-19   13:35:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: dont eat that (#41)

Medicaid, along with Mass-health are the two best examples of why this bill has to be stopped, tossed out, and then redone in my view.

Yet you bring up Mass-health, you are told 'why are you just citing one state' (another forum not here).

And you get the blah blah blah we all see related to Medicaid.

Bottom line is both are insolvent. That should be a clear warning to all against the design and intent of this healthcare bill thats scaring the living hell out of small business owners today.

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