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Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: A K A Stone (#0) The site source has the verbiage but also a link for full article, which is broken. But it's fairly routine that predictions don't work out in cosmology. Though a great many predictions do work out. It was just over 100 years ago when Andromeda was determined to be, in fact, a galaxy outside of our Milky Way galaxy. The constant stream of mysteries, discoveries from the universe and theorizing & predicting explanations makes the field very exciting for those who can fathom it. The problem with Creationism is that there is no experiment or observation that can either prove or disprove it. It's basically a "default" theory that one could resort to when there is no other explanation that is satisfactory for any reason. And I say that as a Michael Newton subscriber, and he writes that the tinkering with life is something advanced souls do, which basically amounts to a creationist element in at least explaining one way new life emerges and mutates, not just on earth but throughout the cosmos. Pinguinite  posted on  2024-03-05   0:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Pinguinite (#1) The problem with Creationism is that there is no experiment or observation that can either prove or disprove it. Well it can't be disproved because it is true. But if there was some data that contadicted what is in Gods word that would contradict it. For example the Bible says there was a worldwide flood. If that happened you would expect to see lots of dead things buried in mud laid down by water all over the earth. By God that is what you see. If you didn't see that than that would disprove it. Another example. The Bible says that like things beget like things. If we saw for example a frog giving birth to cow (new species) then that would disprove creationism. But that is exactly what we see things begetting like things. There has in the billions of cumulative years people have lived all over the earth. Never ever even once had something been born to a creature that wasn't the same type as that creature. In that same time no plant has ever turned into something else. If things were changing like the examples I provided, that would disprove creationism. There is nothing in the Bible pertaining to the processes on earth that has ever been wrong. Just like you can't prove that 2 + 2 = 135.6, you can't disprove creationism because it is like in math it is always true that 2 + 2 is 4. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-03-05   19:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Pinguinite (#1) But it's fairly routine that predictions don't work out in cosmology. That is why predictions that are obviously false shouldn't be called science because it is not science. Science is something that you can prove. Like evolution isn't science because it has never been proved, not even close. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-03-05   19:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Pinguinite (#1) which basically amounts to a creationist element in at least explaining one way new life emerges and mutates Life doesn't mutate into new beings or creatures or plants. Sure my kid might have blonde hair and I have brown hair. But that isn't mutating in the sense of a new creature. Different characteristics isn't mutating in the sense of evolution. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-03-05   19:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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