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Published: Feb 11, 2024
Author: Vicomte13
Post Date: 2024-02-11 10:25:51 by Vicomte13
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I've decided that it's time to offer my services for deep reading and interpreting of passages of the Bible.

I have exhaustively read the Bible in English, Middle English and French, and have studies portions of it Latin, Koine Greek and Ancient Hebrew, including reading the ancient Hebrew pictographs.

I did so for a simple reason: I'm alive because of God - 3 unambiguous episodes, and 6 other circumstances where God intervened to save my life. I have spoken with God on occasion, particularly during two 40-day water fasts. I know God exists, through direct personal contact.

The scientific nature of God? Well, God never told me that he is the powers of nature. All that I know for certain is that he can read my thoughts and manipulate my physical body (including by healing it). In my thoughts, I extend this command over local nature, and the fact of intelligence, to control of the cosmos. God never told me that, but that's my logic and assumption.

Now, the religious texts of the world, therefore, interest me. God exists, do these texts give any insight into him?

In the West, we have the Bible. People here know it. I know it so well, so deeply BECAUSE I have looked through it, not for faith in God - I know God exists - but for factual details. As such, certain things in the text particularly interested me: the Genesis accounts, the Flood, the story of the Nephilim, the "soul", "Thou shall not kill...or murder", "Haaretz" - the land, the world?, "ha olam" and "ha slam va ed" (to.a distant time or forever?), "Kosmos", "Gehenna", "Sheol", the criteria for the afterlife, charity, Jesus on his return, "Spirit", "breath" and "wind" (Reach). These are the subjects that fascinate ME, and into which, therefore, I have placed the focus of my studies.

I CAN, however, apply the same deep examination techniques to any part of the Bible. Just because these things fascinate me does not mean that they are the things that fascinate others

So, if there is a particular aspect of the Bible that you want me to do a deep dive on, something that puzzles you, that you would like to hear an analysis of, reach out to me here and tell me. I will do an analysis and tell you what I see there. It may give you guidance, comfort, or something disturbing to think about. I have no agenda, just the ability to do deep study in multiple languages.

That is all.

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#13. To: Vicomte13 (#0)

Can you give your thoughts on these verses from Proverbs chapter 26?

1As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not seemly for a fool.

2As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come.

3A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

6He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.

7The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools.

8As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool.

9As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools.

10The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.

11As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

12Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2024-02-13   21:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Sure: the author doesn't like fools.

Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-13   21:31:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Here is an example of what I mean by flat out contradictions in the Bible.

In Luke 24, Jesus says this: “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

Written WHERE? None of that is anywhere in the Hebrew Old Testament. That is Christian belief, stated by Christ, but what he says "is written" is NOT, in fact, written ANYWHERE in the Old Testament.

The Bible is shot through with these contradictions. It isn't surprising that a book composed of books, written over the course of hundreds of years by different authors, none of whom had the whole collection of books we call "the Bible", come up with a welter of contradictions, write things that contradict other things that are written. The assertion of some Protestants that God gave us the Bible perfect - the problem with that is passages like this, where Jesus himself says that the Jewish Scriptures say that the Messiah will be killed and rise from the dead on the third day. That is not anywhere in the Hebrew Scriptures. But Jesus says outright that it is.

That's either a lie, or a statement from ignorance. It is not possible for me to simply overlook things like that because I want to believe. I don't want to believe so badly that I will ignore obvious error and deceit.

If you want to argue with me, it's really easy: cite the old testament passage that says that the Messiah will be killed and rise from the dead, on the third day, and preach reptentance to the whole world starting at Jerusalem.

Go ahead, cite it. I'll wait.

Crickets. Crickets.

More crickets.

Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-14   21:30:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Who Is the Prophet Iddo in the Bible?

In ancient Israel and Judah, the prophets of God repeated God’s words to the people, guiding them in the way they should go. While a lesser-known prophet, Iddo’s presence and influence are seen through some of the most pivotal moments in redemption history.

Which Books of the Bible Mention the Prophet Iddo? The prophet Iddo is particularly mentioned in the Old Testament’s historical and prophetic books. His name could have meant “lovely” or “God’s witness.” Up to seven people possibly had that name in the Old Testament. We will focus on the Iddo mentioned in association with the first few kings of Judah.

The first mention of the prophet Iddo is in 1 Kings 4:14, where he is referred to as a prophet during the reign of King Solomon. Iddo’s prophetic ministry likely occurred during Solomon’s reign, a time of great prosperity and wisdom in Israel’s history.

The prophet Iddo is mentioned several times in the book of 2 Chronicles, where his importance is further emphasized. In 2 Chronicles 9:29, it is stated that Iddo wrote a history or chronicle of King Solomon’s reign. This work is commonly known as the “Annals of Iddo the Seer” and is considered a valuable historical account of the period.

1 and 2 Kings and 1 and 2 Chronicles are compilations of other historical accounts—accounts referenced many times within Kings and Chronicles. The compilers took information from books written about these individual kings, and many of the books referenced were books written by God’s prophets, people like Iddo. This is clear evidence those writers viewed the writings of the prophets as authoritative historical accounts.

In 2 Chronicles 12:15, the prophet Iddo is mentioned in connection with the reign of King Rehoboam, the son of Solomon, after the split between Israel and Judah. Iddo’s presence during this time indicates his prophetic activity spanned multiple generations and that he was a respected and influential figure in the royal court.

2 Chronicles 13:22 mentions Iddo’s involvement during the reign of Abijah, another king of Judah. Again, his continued presence and influence in the lives of successive kings highlight his significant role as a prophet during that era.

Other prophets named Iddo are mentioned in later kings, such as Jehoshaphat, Uzziah, and Hezekiah. Still, if he were the same prophet at the time of Solomon and Rehoboam, he would have been well over a hundred years old, so it’s hard to say whether he was the same Iddo.

What Kings Ruled When Iddo Was Prophet? The prophet Iddo lived during a significant period in the history of the Kingdom of Judah. He witnessed and prophesied during the reigns of several kings, each contributing to the kingdom’s spiritual and political landscape. While the exact duration of Iddo’s prophetic ministry is not specified in the Bible, the historical books provide insights into the reigns of the kings he served under.

As mentioned earlier, Iddo’s prophetic ministry is believed to have begun during the reign of King Solomon, the son of King David. Solomon was renowned for his wisdom; his reign is considered a time of prominence for the Kingdom of Israel (1 Kings 4:29-34). Iddo’s presence during Solomon’s rule suggests that he witnessed the golden era of Israel’s united kingdom.

After Solomon’s death, his son Rehoboam ascended to the throne. Iddo continued to serve as a prophet during Rehoboam’s reign, which marked the division of the kingdom into the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the Southern Kingdom of Judah due to political unrest (1 Kings 12:1-24).

Iddo was also present during the reign of Abijah, the son of Rehoboam and the second king of Judah. Abijah’s reign was characterized by conflict with the Northern Kingdom, and Iddo’s prophetic ministry likely influenced the course of events during this turbulent time (2 Chronicles 13:1-22).

Iddo served as a prophet during the reign of King Asa, the third king of Judah. Asa was known for his religious reforms and efforts to root out idolatry from the land (1 Kings 15:9-15). Iddo’s prophetic counsel might have shaped Asa’s dedication to God and his commitment to righteousness.

Since Iddo wrote about the kings through Abijah (who had a brief reign), he likely lived into Asa’s long period as king.

While the Bible does not provide an exhaustive list of all the kings during Iddo’s prophetic ministry, these accounts reveal that he witnessed and prophesied during a crucial period in Judah’s history. Throughout these reigns, Iddo remained a faithful servant of God, offering guidance, counsel, and prophecies to the kings and people of Judah.

Is Iddo the Unnamed Prophet in 1 Kings 13? Scholars debate whether Iddo is the unnamed prophet in 1 Kings 13. The passage narrates a significant event involving two prophets—a younger one from Judah and an older one from Bethel. The story presents a cautionary tale obeying God’s commands and the consequences of deviating from them.

In 1 Kings 13, a young prophet from Judah was sent by God to deliver a message to King Jeroboam of the Northern Kingdom of Israel. The prophet boldly delivered God’s word, foretelling the downfall of Jeroboam’s idolatrous altar and the dynasty of the house of Jeroboam (1 Kings 13:1- 3). As a sign of the prophecy’s fulfillment, the young prophet demonstrated a miraculous sign: the altar split apart, and the ashes spilled out.

After delivering the message, God commanded the young prophet not to eat or drink anything in the region and to return home by a different route. However, an older prophet who lived in Bethel heard about the young prophet’s arrival and invited him to his house. The older prophet claimed an angel had told him to bring the young prophet back to eat and drink. Despite the direct command from God, the young prophet was deceived by the older prophet and agreed to go to his house (1 Kings 13:11-19).

www.christianity.com/wiki...o-prophet-iddo-bible.html

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