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Title: James Carville explains everything about Mike Johnson
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Published: Nov 12, 2023
Author: James Carville
Post Date: 2023-11-12 23:48:41 by A K A Stone
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heh heh heh...

Young Earth Creationist...into fossil fuels...heh heh heh

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-13   10:54:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

heh heh heh

Exactly.

Mike Johnson was brought to center stage with the sole intention to bring derision upon Christ and Christians.

P.S.--the Earth is less than 6000 years old.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-13   11:17:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: watchman (#3)

Exactly.

Mike Johnson was brought to center stage with the sole intention to bring derision upon Christ and Christians.

P.S.--the Earth is less than 6000 years old.

According to scripute. begat begat....

The earth is aprox 10 thousand years old.

If you believe in science fiction and reject Christ. It is billions of years old.

Do you go with Carville the athiest who thinks the Bible is a joke or the Bible?

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-13   11:47:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I don't go with either.

The earth seems to be about 4.5 billion years old.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-13   15:04:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

The earth seems to be about 4.5 billion years old.

That is what the atheist Carville thinks.

Can you explain why you believe that?

To your credit you said "seems" as opposed to is.

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-13   19:27:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#6)

I believe it because of a variety of time markers in space and on earth seem to indicate it. The "time candle" quasars appear to indicate certain ages of star systems. Uranium dating seems to indicate that certain things on earth are hundreds of millions or billions of years old. Carbon-14 dating seems to indicate the age of things back to 50,000 years. Continental drift occurs at a measurable rate. Looking at the gaps between the continents, which clearly were once connected, works out to the continents having separated several hundred million years ago. Dinosaur bones, uranium dated, give us indications of life a hundred million years ago. To me, this is convincing, mutually reinforcing evidence that the world and universe are very old, so that's why I think that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-14   7:45:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

To me, this is convincing, mutually reinforcing evidence

No. Actually it is circular reasoning. Asumptions about X. So the assumptions about X make Y true. Since We claim Y is True. Assumptions can be made that Z is true.

Then you have to assume life evolved over millions of years and lots of dead things before Adam and Eve.

But there was no death before sin.

How do you reconcile that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-14   8:05:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

That there was no death before sin?

Well, the dinosaurs lived millions of years before men, and died, and when men and animals eat plants, even before Adam and Eve fell, the plants died. So there was death before sin.

I reconcile what the Bible says to what happened by thinking that the Bible is telling a story for the purpose of teaching something, but that it is not literally true.

I'd be fine with that. But so many people have forced the conflict into my face and told me that No, I cannot be gentle with the text that way, I cannot read it as a metaphor, that I have to CHOOSE between accepting it all as literally true, or rejecting it all.

My answer to that is really "Who are you to pretend that you can demand such a thing?"

But my answer to other men, who anger me by their stance, is "Easy then, I reject it all."

I don't, really, but if my choice is between believing the inane, or believing the evidence that I trust, I'll choose the evidence and reject the inane. This is not something I actually do, internally, it is in response to the all-or-nothing approach of Protestants, which really strikes me as rather desperate and pathetic. I don't believe what they believe about the Bible. To THEM, this means that I can't believe anything. I do anyway. But in annoyance at being shoved into that stupid dichotomy, I'll tell them that I reject the Bible.

It is actually true to say that I understand the Bible to be what it is: a book, with contradictions and errors in it, but nevertheless something that carries in it some of what God said, and needing to be studied - carefully. If you take it literally, you will oppress women and burn witches, and it would be better to never have read it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-14   8:23:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Vicomte13 (#22)

Well, the dinosaurs lived millions of years before men, and died, and when men and animals eat plants, even before Adam and Eve fell, the plants died. So there was death before sin.

No they didn't. No proof of that at all.

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-17   13:18:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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