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Title: James Carville explains everything about Mike Johnson
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Published: Nov 12, 2023
Author: James Carville
Post Date: 2023-11-12 23:48:41 by A K A Stone
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heh heh heh...

Young Earth Creationist...into fossil fuels...heh heh heh

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-13   10:54:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

heh heh heh

Exactly.

Mike Johnson was brought to center stage with the sole intention to bring derision upon Christ and Christians.

P.S.--the Earth is less than 6000 years old.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-13   11:17:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: watchman (#3)

Exactly.

Mike Johnson was brought to center stage with the sole intention to bring derision upon Christ and Christians.

P.S.--the Earth is less than 6000 years old.

According to scripute. begat begat....

The earth is aprox 10 thousand years old.

If you believe in science fiction and reject Christ. It is billions of years old.

Do you go with Carville the athiest who thinks the Bible is a joke or the Bible?

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-13   11:47:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I don't go with either.

The earth seems to be about 4.5 billion years old.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-13   15:04:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

The earth seems to be about 4.5 billion years old.

That is what the atheist Carville thinks.

Can you explain why you believe that?

To your credit you said "seems" as opposed to is.

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-13   19:27:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#6)

I believe it because of a variety of time markers in space and on earth seem to indicate it. The "time candle" quasars appear to indicate certain ages of star systems. Uranium dating seems to indicate that certain things on earth are hundreds of millions or billions of years old. Carbon-14 dating seems to indicate the age of things back to 50,000 years. Continental drift occurs at a measurable rate. Looking at the gaps between the continents, which clearly were once connected, works out to the continents having separated several hundred million years ago. Dinosaur bones, uranium dated, give us indications of life a hundred million years ago. To me, this is convincing, mutually reinforcing evidence that the world and universe are very old, so that's why I think that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-14   7:45:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

Looking at the gaps between the continents

This seems rational

answersingenesis.org/geol...ctonics/can-catastrophic- plate-tectonics-explain-flood-geology/

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-14   8:07:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#20)

So rather than carping about it, this is what I really believe:

We are spirits that inhabit bodies. When we die we leave our bodies and go on. Ten thousand consistent NDE's tell me this. About 10% of those NDE's are hellish, and those hellish experiences tend to skew heavily towards suicides, and towards people who consciously did hellish things on earth (murderers, rapists - not people who had illicit sex).

My own contacts with God confirm this basic structure. I'll call God "the Holy Spirit" to line it up with Christian thinking, so that others can understand what I say. To me, God is God.

I don't fear death, or worry about my "salvation" (meaning, my going into the light at the end), because I don't murder people, rape them or otherwise intentionally hurt them. I don't have guilt. Sex? Men care about sex. God doesn't. I don't like the endless whining about trans- issues, but to me sex is not the issue - I care as much about actual sex as YHWH did about male masturbation (wash whatever you get spooge on with water and be unclean until evening) or female masturbation (he did not care at all).

In terms of moral judgment, I rely on God (the Holy Spirit) who speaks directly to me. I recognize that I am more violent and implacable than God. God restrains my worse nature in that respect, and I listen to him, because he's God and I know it will be better for me if I do, rather than let my own anger carry me to extremes. I am a military man by training and at heart - I want to see my enemies DEAD. It is God who reminds me that what HE wants is reconciliation, where possible.

That's my religion. I listen to God.

I note that the Shroud of Turin really does seem to show a miracle, and so I allow that Jesus probably was resurrected, and was in some sense the Son of God. So I am drawn to know what he taught. I have every church, and practically every Christian, telling me Jesus taught me what THEY thing. And when I read the Bible for greater clarity, I find eight different Jesus' in the text: Mark's, Matthew's, Luke's, John's, Revelations', Paul's, James', and Peter's. Jude doesn't really talk about Jesus, but he talks about Enoch, which should (therefore) by all rights be included in the canon.

I see the conflicts between these Jesuses, which is to say, between what these men thought about Jesus, and what they asserted was the most important thing. I think that Mark's Jesus is the closest to what Jesus himself actually SAID (it is much closer in time to him, at least). Paul never met Jesus, so what Paul is giving us is his own view of God through his encounters with the Holy Spirit.

If I want to be inspired by Jesus, I read Mark, and I look for passages in the rest that don't conflict with what Jesus says in Mark. And that's as far as I can go.

For actual day to day living, I rely on the Holy Spirit, and do what it tells me is best.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-14   8:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#24)

my going into the light at the end

Lucifer means light...so that is where you are going...to be with Lucifer.

Lucifer has tricked you...it wasn't hard for him to do. You want Lucifer instead of the omnipotent God of the Bible...and that is who you'll end up with.

I, on the other hand, want God (of the Bible) Who is Jesus Christ. I want God who created the world in 6 days. I want God Who created the teeming life forms of this earth. I want God to resurrect me from the misery and death of this life into His presence and show me an eternity of eye peeling adventure and never-ending happiness. It will be so glorious that mere words fall short of describing it.

You could have the God of the Bible too, but no, you sift through religious stuff looking for a god of your choosing, a god you can dictate to, because, well, you know better than God. You want a god who can't do much.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-14   16:16:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: watchman (#26)

What you want and what I want are irrelevant. I am interested in what IS.

I have seen much evidence, collected over a lifetime, that what I believe, is. That's why I believe it. I have no innate desire to believe in God; the evidence persuades me. By contrast, I have seen no evidence whatever, anywhere, that what you believe, is.

So, I have the evidence of my entire life, versus your angry, repetitive words.

I expect that, at the end, we will both go into the light.

You can turn to God and demand "What is HE doing here!"

What you will find is that my God is who you are speaking with. And that your God does not exist at all.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-14   17:13:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Vicomte13 (#28)

I have no innate desire to believe in God; the evidence persuades me.

I see no innate desire in you to know God. You cannot tell me much about God because you don't know Him or want to know Him. You only want to know a little about the god of your choosing.

Your god cannot create.

Your god causes no holy reverence in you.

Your god is who you say he/she/it is based on your whim at that moment.

Your god is flimsy.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-14   17:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: watchman (#29)

My God created the Universe and me and you.

Your God is a petulant little baby who stamps his feet and threatens eternal damnation to anybody who doesn't blindly accept everything you teach.

In the end, you'll meet my God. Your God is a reflection of you.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-14   18:37:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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