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Bible Study Title: TOP 10 Eastern Orthodox Heresies. 1) They deny the Holy Trinity - Theosis adds to the Trinity. Theosis denies the Trinity, they have a different God. Theosis involves becoming united with God himself, not in a metaphor, but in reality, and their theological excuses that it is unity with God in energia (not in ousia) does not negate the blasphemy. You will see later that I say Orthodox Theology is far more movable and indistinct in doctrine than Catholicism, and this topic is becoming such a total embarrassment to Orthodoxy they are starting to "manoeuvre" the concept of Theosis away from unity with God himself. Once we get them swapping and changing like that their whole house of cards will eventually fall over. Theosis heresy 2 -the other evil doctrine regarding Theosis is in effect making sanctification and spiritual growth into part of a process that contributes to actual salvation. (see later in the list of salvation errors) and is therefore also turning a fruit of salvation into a root of salvation, this time this time not so much works, rather Christian maturity and sanctification. 2) A false gospel by which we are saved. - that adds works, and acts of priestcraft, and is a quote "process of salvation" or synergy - but in reality is far more complex than just that, including works of Mary, dead saints, passing tests in Aerial Toll houses etc. (later in this list I give dozens of examples of these heresies of salvation by works and priestcraft). 3) A fake bible & A fake canon of scripture. The Eastern Orthodox bible is heretical as it translates the Old testament from the Greek LXX, which in effect calls Matthew 4:4 a lie, as the Hebrew OT has been perfectly preserved and they deny that by absurdly translating out of the corrupted Greek. By choosing these OT corrupted ms to translate and use, they have also added heretical books to the OT canon, such as the clearly bogus book "Bel and the Dragon". Thus they also have a fake canon of scripture.as well as a fake text of scripture. Can you imagine how stupid it is to translate the Old Testament from Greek? Absurd! (Another more modern heresy is that some Orthodox websites in order to be "more trendy and modern" have started to use and quote the corrupt Alexandrian modern bibles such as the NIV.) 4) Apostolic Succession 1 - (hand-me-down power) - the heresy of hand me-down-power and the faking of historical "proof" to so called prove it. It has a massive influence in the damnation of Orthodox souls who buy the lie. It should be dealt with far more by Protestants and Evangelicals. There is another heresy involved with it (dealt with later) which is that salvation can only be acquired by these hand-me-down powers that don't even exist in the first place. 5) That Orthodoxy is a church . 6) That the Orthodox Church is Infallible . 7) The Titular Head - the Orthodox Pope . 8) They deny literal Everlasting Hell fire . The belief in Everlasting Hell is tied into the very definition of the "gospel by which we are saved" (1 Cor 15: 1-4) and is thus fundamental to the Faith. Saved from what? Saved from eternal Hell fire, and saved from the wrath of God against sin. The Orthodox deny God has any wrath, and say "Hell" is God loving you. Preposterous. They cannot even get Heaven and Hell right. They are doctrinal dunces and dwarfs masquerading as spiritual giants, and know nothing about anything. Ther priest, bishops and Titular Hea of the church will all go into the same Hell fir they deny exists. 9) Murder and violence. They believe in killing in wars. Yet pretend to be pacifist . They believe in killing in wars. Yet pretend to be pacifist . In the new and better covenant it is murder to kill in wars. if the Orthodox are pacifist, why do they give communion to the hundreds of thousands of soldiers in their churches? In fact why don't they excommunicate them for believing in murder? Orthodoxy is the most oxymoronic Faith in the world. They have dozens of such complete oxymoronic doctrines. (as I believe the 3 main heresies of modern Protestantism are war, adultery by second marriage {it was not always the case} and fake Alexandrian modern bibles, I feel it necessary to put murder in the Top 10 of Orthodoxy). This includes Historical proof of capital punishment, and mutilation of "heretics" and "sinners", yet claim to be pacifist. Also assaults on those "possessed by devils" or "the devil". The relationship between "church and state" in Orthodoxy is so intermingled it is a certain heresy, as the state is always so corrupt in itself. and results in their church making saints out of murdering monarchs. 10) Traditions of men . The great identifying characteristic of the fake religion called Judaism, that resulted in the Talmud, the multiplying of man made ideas has results in an Orthodox Talmud of human Traditions usurping authority over The Word of God, declare infallible by God himself. It results also in the "strange fire" heresy of the sons of Aaron. TOP 10. 1) THEOSIS meaning: They have a different God. They deny the Holy Trinity. The doctrine of Theosis states that God is made up of essence (ousia) and energies (energeia), and that the believers who are eventually saved will become one with God in his energies. This heresy doctrinally merges millions of other beings into God, theologically defiling the Holy Trinity, Theosis also blasphemously feminizes God. as women are also supposed to go through the process of Theosis. The doctrine of Theosis is not the Protestant and Evangelical doctrine of sanctification, neither is it the doctrine of the imitation of Christ, that is to become more Christlike, it clearly states they will become one with God himself. This is becoming a complete embarrassment to the Orthodox church, as born again theologians and teachers take the heresy apart and prove them a false church, and so, after hundreds of years of deception, some Orthodox writers are now trying to disguise the true meaning of the doctrine as "a process whose aim is likeness to or union with God" and by inferring both statements are synonymous and that Catholics have taught the former but not the latter, this means. Orthodoxy has never taught the union with God heresy as "likeness" is identical to what they meant by "union". Do not be deceived by the u- turn by some of their teachers, the doctrine of Theosis is pure blasphemy. metaphors in the bible like "ye are gods" are precisely that, just similes. As Shakespeare said, "What a piece of work is a man!...... in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god!" We are not gods and will never unite into God. It is blasphemy to say so. The devil tempted Eve by saying "ye shall be as gods" and in Isaiah 14 Lucifer said he wanted to be God. The doctrine of Orthodoxy that man is deified is for those vain enough to believe it. 2) A false "gospel by which we are saved". The gospel is "salvation by belief in Jesus Christ, crucified, buried and resurrected," (see 1 Cor 15: 1-4, Luke 24: 44-48, and John 3:16) they add works and priestcraft as a root (not the fruit) of salvation, relegating Jesus into a semi-Saviour, and making sinners and priests into co-saviours. 3) A fake bible: The Orthodox Bible is fake. Translating the Old Testament out of the Greek Septuagint borders on farce and racism also. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew (and a small amount of Aramaic) and should be translated directly out of it into whatever other language is chosen. Their fake bible includes also many clearly bogus books such as Bel and the Dragon, and apocryphal old testament, books not to be considered scripture. False Books they include into the bible have never been accepted as scripture by the Jews. 4) Apostolic Succession. The heretical belief in hand-me-down spiritual power from person to person. The root of this heresy goes all the way back to the Gainsaying of Core (mentioned in the Epistle of Jude), who was jealous of Moses and challenged him for power, but was swallowed up into a fissure that opened up in the earth. This heretical lust for power on a level with Moses persisted among the Jews, and the 70 elders began to create hundreds of man made traditions over the centuries, laying down an oral law that was partly inspired by the corrupt practices they had witnessed in the Babylonian and Assyrian captivities. Throughout his ministry Jesus challenged these man made traditions that often directly contradicted the word of God. After the resurrection, and the death of the apostles, the true extent of this corruption became apparent after the Jews wrote down these oral laws in what became the Babylonian Talmud and the Palestinian Talmud. It is no coincidence that the Orthodox doctrine of the Synaxis of the 70 Apostles says Jesus chose 70 other apostles beside the 12, the apostles appointing other apostles later on. This was a deliberate ploy to forge a counterfeit connection between the 70 elders in each generation of the old testament, and a similar concept of repeating apostolic bishops throughout the last 2,000 years. However by the very act of doing this they have inadvertently proven the connection between themselves and the rebellion among the Jews that led to the oral law of the Talmud in the first, it was all heresy from the very beginning, from the old testament to the modern day equivalent, a kind of pseudo Christian Talmud, which is the avalanche of Orthodox literature created to distract people away from the law of God found in the new testament, declared infallible by God, and profitable for doctrine. This created the necessity for a pseudo ancestral line of apostlic bishops to be created, which therefore resulted in the forging of historical "proof" of the concept in order to invent an unbroken lineage back to the apostles, example one - the "fact" that Onesimus from the Epistle of Philemon is supposed to have become a bishop (when in fact there is no evidence whatsoever that he did), example 2 - that Stachys, a name they simply lifted and cynically used from Romans 16 also became an early bishop and martyr. and that Onesimus and Stachys were both similar in teachings to modern day Orthodox pharisees, putting golden crowns on their heads, wearing God inspired whited sephulcre uniforms, reading liturgies of bits of parchment and praying to Mary in front of icons of her etc. oh by the way, the early church was in fact identical to the modern day evangelical born again christian house group movement. +++++++++++++ It is at the level of a religious farce that the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics have variously declared each other anathema, false bishops, and without sacramental power, after the Great Schism of 1054, and by doing this the Orthodox themselves point to a fake line of Roman Catholic apostolic bishops. Well...... It therefore only remains for them to see that their own bishops are just as false and heretical and the job of defending the Faith is completed. Apostolic succession you see is the belief that heretic bishops are somehow holy, passing down their corruption from one pseudo bishop to another like infectious disease is spread from person to person, with zero emphasis on the purity of a bishops beliefs in comparison to new testament and new covenant law. The Catholics say that all the historical evidence points to the fact that all these characters and pseudo bishops were Catholic in their beliefs. and the Orthodox say that all of these men, all of them, were provably Orthodox in their beliefs from the historical evidence, proving them liars - just check out the long list of contradictions between their two religions, and as they both say all the evidence shows the early church was like them you will soon see that both sides are experts at falsifying historical evidence and ignoring real evidence, like the evidence that shows that the bible description matches the Evangelicals. 5) They are not part of the new covenant. by altering the belief in how we are "born again" and denying the laws written on our hearts, by substituting them with man made laws, they have altered, and therefore have not entered into, the new and better covenant described in Jeremiah 31: 31-32. 6) Metousiosis - or "holy cannibalism". The Orthodox form of transubstantiation, identical to the belief of Roman Catholics, but not seeking to explain as precisely how this imaginary process happens, and thus they also believe they eat the body and blood of Jesus Christ. 7) Chrismation. Chrismation is the belief that the Apostles replaced the laying on of hands for the receipt of the Holy Spirit, resulting in the born again experience, with a rite of anointing with special consecrated oil to achieve the same result, when in fact the born again experience happens the moment you have faith in Christ, without the laying on of hands in the first place, meaning that in reality true salvation is between a person and God alone, without a human "middle man". It amounts to a "magic potion" that is only in the hands of the Orthodox, empowering them to minister grace for salvation, and is an example of the sin in the heart of Simon the Sorcerer in Acts chapter 8. 8) Triple Baptism. 1) That belief is not required 2) It is triple (to emphasize their priestcraft) singular in bible. 3) Baptism helps save (as part of a process of salvation). 4) As they say the water in John 3:5 is baptism, and you cannot enter or see the kingdom of God without it, this act of priestcraft has a man involved in your actual salvation, a co-saviour. 5) You become a co-saviour by your obedience. 6) It makes you part of the church. important: this means all triple baptized babies in Eastern Orthodoxy are considered full members of the church (through the work of a man) but in Roman Catholicism everyone (not just adult proselytes) go through confirmation before being considered "full" church members. 7) A plethora or rites and other bogus ceremonies are attached to the baptismal service (to emphasize bogus priestly powers) 8) With adults it only proceeds after a long indoctrination catechumen that amounts to an exam."exam". 9) It is connected in adults with a lot of superfluous beliefs, an oxymoronic fact if you baptize babies! 10) Connected to the man made rite of Chrismation. 11) You cannot become born again without the priest. 9) They deny Everlasting Hell fire. The classic interpretation of everlasting Hell, or the Lake of Fire (as distinct from Hades - in that Hades is not eternal, as it is emptied into the Lake of Fire or Hell), is that it is a literal lake of fire, burning sulphur and smoke, where the people physically suffer in physical bodies, with worms in their bodies. and dry tongues in their mouths from thirst etc - for everlasting time. The Orthodox version of Hell is a watered down, effete, extenuated, enfeebled, downplayed scenario, crippled of all proper threat and warning, changed and warped into simply being tormented torment by God's loving presence, quote: "Thus it is the Church’s spiritual teaching that God does not punish man by some material fire or physical torment. God simply reveals Himself in the risen Lord Jesus in such a glorious way that no man can fail to behold His glory. It is the presence of God’s splendid glory and love that is the scourge of those who reject its radiant power and light." oca.com Such an effete watered down doctrine encourages sinners to continue in sin. 10) Mariolatry. They say Mary has the attributes of God. This leads to both the overt and the covert worship of Mary, and multiple Mary heresies. There are so many heresies about Mary to prove this, but I will give here just 10 which should suffice: 1) Mary gives grace to believers for salvation. Saving grace comes from God alone. 2) Mary is a mediator between God and man. The bible says "there is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus". 3) They Pray to Mary (an act of worship). 4) They say Mary can hear millions of prayers and answer them, something only God can do, giving her superhuman powers, 5) The Dormition - that is Mary Floated up to heaven after she died, 6) Theotokos means "God bearer" and to be fair does not mean the identical same thing as the RC heresy of calling her "Mother of God", but some, especially ecumenical Orthodox believers, do call her the mother of God, 7) They make icons of Mary, which become objects of idolatry., and they pray toward icons of Mary. 8) Mary never had "original sin", and was sinless. - another superhuman attribute. 9) The perpetual virginity of Mary. Jesus had brothers and sisters. 10) That Mary is the Queen of Heaven. They sometimes say she was Crowned "Queen of Heaven" in Revelation 12. (an heretical interpretation). This is sometimes called "Mary Regina". 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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Who is the Bishop over the person who wrote this piece of heretical trash? If he doesn't have a Bishop with a direct line back to Jesus Christ, he isn't a member of the Church and has zero authority to speak about it. Here is the line of succession for my Bishop: Primates of the Apostolic See of Antioch (Orthodox Succession) 1 45-53 The Episcopacy of St. Peter, the Apostle, in Antioch. 2 53 The Episcopacy of Eudoius in Antioch. 3 68 The Episcopacy of St. Ignatius (d. 107) in Antioch. 4 100 The Episcopacy of Heros in Antioch. 5 127 The Episcopacy of Cornelius in Antioch. 6 151 The Episcopacy of Heros II in Antioch. 7 169 The Episcopacy of Theophilus (d. 181/182) in Antioch. 8 188 The Episcopacy of Maximianus (d. 190/191) in Antioch. 9 191-212 The Episcopacy of Serapion in Antioch. 10 212-218 The Episcopacy of Aslipiades in Antioch. 11 218-231 The Episcopacy of Philetus in Antioch. 12 232 The Episcopacy of Zebinus (a.k.a. Zenobius) in Antioch. 13 240 The Episcopacy of St. Babylas in Antioch. 14 253 The Episcopacy of Fabius in Antioch. 15 256 The Episcopacy of Demetrian in Antioch. 16 263 The Episcopacy of Amphilochius in Antioch. 17 267 The Episcopacy of Paul of Samosata in Antioch. 18 270 The Episcopacy of Dmonus in Antioch. 19 273 The Episcopacy of Timaeus in Antioch. 20 277 The Episcopacy of Cyril in Antioch. 21 299 The Episcopacy of Tyrannion in Antioch. 22 308 The Episcopacy of Vitalius in Antioch. 23 314 The Episcopacy of Philogonius in Antioch. 24 324 The Episcopacy of Paulinus in Antioch. 25 325 The Episcopacy of Eustathius in Antioch. 26 332 The Episcopacy of Paulinus in Antioch. 27 332 The Episcopacy of Eulalius (5 months) in Antioch. 28 333 The Episcopacy of Euphronius in Antioch. 29 334 The Episcopacy of Placentius in Antioch. 30 341 The Episcopacy of Stephanus in Antioch. 31 345 The Episcopacy of Leontius in Antioch. 32 350 The Episcopacy of Eudoxius in Antioch. 33 354 The Episcopacy of Meletius in Antioch. 34 354 The Episcopacy of Eudoxius in Antioch. 35 357 The Episcopacy of Annias (a.k.a. Ammianus) in Antioch. 36 360 The Episcopacy of Eudozius in Antioch. 37 370 The Episcopacy of Dorotheus in Antioch. 38 371 The Episcopacy of Paulinus in Antioch. 39 376 The Episcopacy of Vitalius in Antioch. 40 384 The Episcopacy of Flavian in Antioch. 41 404 The Episcopacy of Porphyrius in Antioch. 42 408 The Episcopacy of Alexander in Antioch. 43 418 The Episcopacy of Theodotus in Antioch. 44 427 The Episcopacy of John in Antioch. 45 443 The Episcopacy of Domnus II in Antioch. 46 450 The Episcopacy of Maximus in Antioch. See elevated to dignity of a Patriarchate by the Council of Chalcedon in 451 47 459 The Patriarchate of Basil in Antioch. 48 459 The Patriarchate of Acacius in Antioch. 49 461 The Patriarchate of Martyrius in Antioch. 50 465 The Patriarchate of Peter the Fuller in Antioch. 51 466 The Patriarchate of Julian in Antioch. 52 474 The Patriarchate of Peter the Fuller in Antioch. 53 475 The Patriarchate of John II in Antioch. 54 490 The Patriarchate of Stephen II in Antioch. 55 493 The Patriarchate of Stephen III in Antioch. 56 495 The Patriarchate of Callandion in Antioch. 57 495 The Patriarchate of John Codonatus in Antioch. 58 497 The Patriarchate of Palladius in Antioch. 59 505 The Patriarchate of Flavian II in Antioch. 60 513 The Patriarchate of Severus in Antioch. 61 518 The Patriarchate of Paul II in Antioch. 62 521 The Patriarchate of Euphrasius in Antioch. 63 526 The Patriarchate of Ephraim in Antioch. 64 546 The Patriarchate of Domnus III in Antioch. 65 561 The Patriarchate of Anastasius the Sinaite in Antioch. 66 571 The Patriarchate of Gregory in Antioch. 67 594 The Patriarchate of Anastasius the Sinaite in Antioch. 68 599 The Patriarchate of Anastasius II in Antioch. 69 610 The Patriarchate of Gregory II, in Antioch. 70 620 The Patriarchate of Anastasius III in Antioch. 71 628 The Patriarchate of Macedonius in Antioch. 72 640 The Patriarchate of George in Antioch. 73 656 The Patriarchate of Macarius in Antioch. 74 681 The Patriarchate of Theophanes in Antioch. 75 687 The Patriarchate of Sebastian in Antioch. 76 690 The Patriarchate of George II in Antioch. 77 695 The Patriarchate of Alexander in Antioch. 78 742 The Patriarchate of Stephen IV in Antioch. 79 748 The Patriarchate of Theophylact in Antioch. 80 767 The Patriarchate of Theodore in Antioch. 81 797 The Patriarchate of John IV in Antioch. 82 810 The Patriarchate of Job in Antioch. 83 826 The Patriarchate of Nicholas in Antioch. 84 834 The Patriarchate of Simeon in Antioch. 85 840 The Patriarchate of Elias in Antioch. 86 852 The Patriarchate of Theodosius in Antioch. 87 860 The Patriarchate of Nicholas II in Antioch. 88 879 The Patriarchate of Michael in Antioch. 89 890 The Patriarchate of Zacharias in Antioch. 90 902 The Patriarchate of George III in Antioch. 91 917 The Patriarchate of Job II in Antioch. 92 939 The Patriarchate of Eustratius in Antioch. 93 960 The Patriarchate of Christopher in Antioch. 94 966 The Patriarchate of Theodorus II in Antioch. 95 977 The Patriarchate of Agapius in Antioch. 96 995 The Patriarchate of John IV in Antioch. 97 1000 The Patriarchate of Nicholas III in Antioch. 98 1003 The Patriarchate of Elias II in Antioch. 99 1010 The Patriarchate of George Lascaris in Antioch. 100 1015 The Patriarchate of Macarius the Virtuous in Antioch. 101 1023 The Patriarchate of Eleutherius in Antioch. 102 1028 The Patriarchate of Peter III in Antioch. 103 1051 The Patriarchate of John VI in Antioch. 104 1062 The Patriarchate of Aemilian in Antioch. 105 1075 The Patriarchate of Theodosius II in Antioch. 106 1084 The Patriarchate of Nicephorus in Antioch. 107 1090 The Patriarchate of John VII in Antioch. 108 1155 The Patriarchate of John IX in Antioch. 109 1159 The Patriarchate of Euthymius in Antioch. 110 1164 The Patriarchate of Macarius in Antioch. 111 1166 The Patriarchate of Athanasius in Antioch. 112 1180 The Patriarchate of Theodosius III in Antioch. 113 1182 The Patriarchate of Elias III in Antioch. 114 1184 The Patriarchate of Christopher II in Antioch. 115 1185 The Patriarchate of Theodore IV (Balsamon) in exile in Constantinople. 116 1199 The Patriarchate of Joachim in exile in Constantinople. 117 1219 The Patriarchate of Dorotheus in exile in Constantinople. 118 1245 The Patriarchate of Simeon II in exile in Constantinople. 119 1268 The Patriarchate of Euthymius II in exile in Constantinople. 120 1269 The Patriarchate of Theodosius IV in Antioch. 121 1276 The Patriarchate of Theodosius V in Antioch. 122 1285 The Patriarchate of Arsenius in Antioch. 123 1293 The Patriarchate of Dionysius in Antioch. 124 1308 The Patriarchate of Mark in Antioch. Patriarchal See transferred to Damascus in 1342 125 1342 The Patriarchate of Ignatius II in Damascus. 127 1386 The Patriarchate of Pachomius in Damascus. 128 1393 The Patriarchate of Nilus in Damascus. 129 1401 The Patriarchate of Michael III in Damascus. 130 1410 The Patriarchate of Pachomius II in Damascus. 131 1411 The Patriarchate of Joachim II in Damascus. 132 1426 The Patriarchate of Mark III in Damascus. 133 1436 The Patriarchate of Dorotheus II in Damascus. 134 1454 The Patriarchate of Michael IV in Damascus. 135 1476 The Patriarchate of Mark IV in Damascus. 136 1476 The Patriarchate of Joachim III in Damascus. 137 1483 The Patriarchate of Gregory III in Damascus. 139 1497-1523 The Patriarchate of Dorotheus III in Damascus. 140 1523-1541 The Patriarchate of Michael V in Damascus. 141 1541-1543 The Patriarchate of Dorotheus IV in Damascus. 142 1543-1576 The Patriarchate of Joachim IV (Ibn Juma) in Damascus. 143 1577-1581 The Patriarchate of Michael VI (Sabbagh) in Damascus. 144 1581-1592 The Patriarchate of Joachim V in Damascus. 145 1593-1604 The Patriarchate of Joachim VI in Damascus. 146 1604-1611 The Patriarchate of Dorotheus V in Damascus. 147 1611-1619 The Patriarchate of Athanasius III (Dabbas) in Damascus. 148 1619-1631 The Patriarchate of Ignatius III (Attiyah) in Damascus. 149 1635-1636 The Patriarchate of Euthymius III in Damascus. 150 1636-1648 The Patriarchate of Euthymius IV in Damascus. 151 1648-1672 The Patriarchate of Michael III (Zaim) in Damascus. 152 1674-1684 The Patriarchate of Neophytos I in Damascus. 153 1686-1694 The Patriarchate of Athanasius IV (Dabbas) in Damascus. 154 1694-1720 The Patriarchate of Cyril III (Zaim) in Damascus. 155 1720-1724 The Patriarchate of Athanasius IV (Dabbas) in Damascus. 156 1724-1766 The Patriarchate of Sylvester I in Damascus. 157 1766-1767 The Patriarchate of Philemon I in Damascus. 158 1767-1791 The Patriarchate of Daniel I in Damascus. 159 1792-1813 The Patriarchate of Euthymius I in Damascus. 160 1813-1823 The Patriarchate of Seraphim I in Damascus. 161 1843-1859 The Patriarchate of Methodius I in Damascus. 162 1850-1885 The Patriarchate of Hierotheos I in Damascus. 163 1885-1891 The Patriarchate of Gerasimos I in Damascus. 164 1892-1898 The Patriarchate of Spyridon I in Damascus. 165 1899-1906 The Patriarchate of Meletius II (Doumani) in Damascus. 166 1906-1928 The Patriarchate of Gregory IV(Haddad) in Damascus. 167 1928-1958 The Patriarchate of Alexander III (Tahan) in Damascus. 168 1958-1970 The Patriarchate of Theodosius VI (Abourjaily) in Damascus. 169 1970-1979 The Patriarchate of Elias IV (Muawad) in Damascus. 170 1979-2012 The Patriarchate of Ignatius IV (Hazim, 1921-2012) in Damascus. 171 2013-present The Patriarchate of John X (Yazigi, 1955- ) in Damascus.
Jesus didn't have children, you heretic. But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law, for they are unprofitable and vain. That is why God says "Avoid...genealogies" because they are vain.
#3. To: watchman (#2)
I did not ask about a geneology, dummy. "Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained." Jesus ordained the first Bishops of the Church. If someone has not been ordained from one of the original Apostolic lines of succession, they are not part of the Church. If I walked onto a US military base and tried to order people around, they would rightfully think that I am crazy, because I am not a US military officer. In the same way, if some dumb-ass Protestant heretic tries to act like he's a member of the Church when he has zero historical connection to the real historical Church, then he or she is crazy. Jesus ordained the Apostles, and they ordained successors. Bubba the Baptist can't just proclaim that he's in charge of some brand new "church" just because he feels like it.
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