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Title: They’re Repeating The Word ‘Unprovoked’ Again, This Time In Defense Of Israel
Source: Caitlin Johnstone
URL Source: https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/202 ... his-time-in-defense-of-israel/
Published: Oct 12, 2023
Author: Caitlin Johnstone
Post Date: 2023-10-12 00:15:43 by Charles_Byrd
Keywords: None
Views: 2510
Comments: 34

We’re seeing the western political/media class bleating the word “unprovoked” in unison again, this time in reference to the massive multi- pronged operation launched by Hamas against Israel on Saturday morning which reportedly killed hundreds of Israelis.

“The United States unequivocally condemns the unprovoked attacks by Hamas terrorists against Israeli civilians,” reads a statement from the White House.

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#1. To: Charles_Byrd (#0)

That is correct: the attack was unprovoked, and the terrorists who did it are terrorists.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-10-12   8:00:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

" That is correct: the attack was unprovoked, and the terrorists who did it are terrorists. "

EXACTLY !!!

Stoner  posted on  2023-10-16   13:37:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#2)

Yep.

Israel has an impossible task in front of it. They can bomb Gaza, and they can occupy it. But there are two million people there, they all hate the Jews and they will never change their minds. Whoever Israel manages to kill, there is a surging mass of people who hate them and who will simply replace them in the ranks. They can't kill them all, and they can't change their minds - and you can't bomb and shoot people into liking you.

What the US did in Germany and Japan - bomb them, but then rebuild them into equal economic powers. Israel could not do this in Gaza if they wanted to (and they don't want to).

So this is just another chapter in an endless cycle of hatred, killing and retaliation. It never will end, and nobody can ever win, not as long as Muslims have their Allah, and Jews have their Yahweh.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-10-17   8:47:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

It never will end

Albert Pike says otherwise. Lucifer will step in and bring peace.

watchman  posted on  2023-10-17   9:37:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: watchman (#4)

Anyway, it can't happen. Jews and Muslims can kill each other, but they can't wipe each other out.

And Christianity is fading because of its own evils and internal contradictions, not because of either Judaism or Islam.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-10-17   11:55:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

Fading

You're fagging

Hubrissed your self to deaTh

Laughing
boris

BorisY  posted on  2023-10-17   14:17:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BorisY (#9)

Incoherent.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-10-17   21:48:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Franky, Israel is very rich, and heavily armed. It doesn't really NEED US aid shipped to it. The US politicians are falling all over themselves to do it because of their desire to be seen supporting Israel. This is partly because of the power of the Jewish lobby, and partly because snake-handing American Protestants have a fetish with the idea of Israel. Either way, it's a gesture, but it isn't necessary for Israel to beat Hamas. They are not on the threshold of defeat.

Ukraine, on the other hands, NEEDS Western aid. It is fighting Russia, biggest country in the world, and it will be overwhelmed without massive amounts of US and Western Allied support. Putting Israel first here is not in the best long-term US interest.

The aid package for Israel should have been kept tied to ongoing aid for Ukraine. Aid to Israel is nice, but aid for Ukraine is imperative, yet we have turned it right around. Foolishness.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-06   14:52:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#11)

partly because snake-handing American Protestants have a fetish with the idea of Israel

Fetish is an apt description.

Evangelicals are calling for carpet bombing and genocide. What do you suppose Christ thinks of His church right now?

Here's the kicker: evangelicals do not care one wit about the people of Israel. Most do not know any Jews and probably would not like them if they did. All they care about is the fulfillment of a prophecy that allows them the least amount of suffering i.e. the pre-trib rapture.

Christians at this time are "Laodicean", that is, they believe themselves to be rich and have need of nothing, but they are in fact poor, blind, and naked (and stupid).

watchman  posted on  2023-11-07   16:14:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: watchman (#12) (Edited)

There won't be any pre-trip rapture. Why do they think there will be? Delusion. Fantasy.

Truth is, they'll all dwell in these fantasies, until they individually succumb of heart attacks and cancer. The world will not be ending. They will be, individually, as always.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-11   23:11:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

There won't be any pre-trip rapture. Why do they think there will be?

Because the Scripture for a pre-trib rapture is compelling. Very compelling. I taught it for years.

Truth is, they'll all dwell in these fantasies, until they individually succumb of heart attacks and cancer.

It looks like they will cling to it to the bitter end. Most will not wake up until they stand before God at the judgment. They are, in fact, in a state of delusion.

Christians have waited for 2000 years in anticipation of Christ's return. Now that the moment is at hand they are looking away (with a bizarre kind of arrogance). I picture myself trying to inform the local pastors in the nearby villages and I always see myself being rudely and completely rejected. The Bible gives in-your-face clues/indicators on what to look for concerning Christ's return. Those clues are slapping us in the face and now all of a sudden...the churches are looking the other way, refusing to even consider them. Madness.

I do understand the spiritual problem because the Bible tells me what is happening, but that does not relieve my sorrow.

On the other hand, could the Great Tribulation actually occur if everyone was aware of it? I don't think so. Therefore, the condition of the churches is both necessary and prophesized, to allow the tribulation to happen.

The world will not be ending.

You live in a delusion yourself. And I understand why you do. The "end of the world" is shocking and horrific...who can look at it? Life as we know it...going way. Loved ones...dying. And the judgment...terror for those who have rejected Christ's forgiveness of sin. And this delusion of humanity is, of course, prophesized. It's right there in Scripture.

The world will end. It needs to end. We are approaching "as in the days of Noah" brutality. Corruption...off the charts. Suffering...manifold. The very earth is polluted and dying. God would be truly unloving if He does not step in and make it right again. But He must allow man the freedom to choose...God or the devil.

It's plain to see that mankind is choosing the devil instead of God.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-12   7:31:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: watchman (#14) (Edited)

there is no pre trib rapture. Jesus doesn't mention it on Matthew 24. You are confusing the second coming with it.

if you pre tribbers are wrong your doctrine will leave many people to accept the mark because they think they will be raptured out and it cant be the mark because the rapture happens first.

got it sleepy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-12   11:54:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

there is no pre trib rapture.

That is correct. The tribulation began in 2020...and we were not raptured. Obviously, I am no longer a "pre tribber".

if you pre tribbers are wrong your doctrine will leave many people to accept the mark

This is incorrect. The only thing that will occur is that believers will (hopefully) suddenly wake up to the fact that there was no pre-trib rapture. They will be momentarily confused/frightened, but they will not take the mark. What a dumb thing to say.

You are confusing the second coming with it.

The Bible teaches the rapture (resurrection), and it teaches the Second Coming. The rapture is the Church (both dead and living believers) going up to Christ in the clouds. The Second Coming is Christ coming down to the Mt. of Olives, returning to the same spot from which He left.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-12   13:55:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman (#17)

We are not in the tribulation period.

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-12   17:35:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Prove it.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-12   18:09:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: watchman (#21)

Its obvious. You need to prove we are though. You made the claim.

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-11-12   21:51:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: (#22)

what difference does it make if you die in the apocalypse at the end of the world, or die from a chest-clutcher tomorrow morning on the toilet? How does the particular manner of your death change what happens to you next?

It never made any sense to me why people look for signs of the end of the world. Each of our world's ends at some point, to accident or disease, and we go to Jesus for reward or judgment. So why care if that's tomorrow or at the end of the world?

The fact that it's the end of the world means that lots of people will die at the same time, But it's still the end of the world for you if it's just you dying on the toilet.

So why care? Seriously - what difference does it make?

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-11-12   22:02:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13 (#23)

It never made any sense to me why people look for signs of the end of the world.

Because Jesus commanded us to watch for His return...

Watch therefore...Mt.24.42

Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Rev.16.15

Partly to prevent us from being deceived. Watching also prevents us from being ashamed by our "nakedness". See the churches, how shameful they, thinking themselves to be rich when they are poor, blind and naked. They are not obeying Christ's command to watch, and they are falling for every deceitful lie.

Btw, it's not the end of the world...it's the end of THIS world, this dispensation of grace. And it's not the end of life. We are merely ending this phase of the operation and moving on to the next.

watchman  posted on  2023-11-12   22:32:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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