Title: Ukraine to become 'Big Israel'? Source:
The Grayzone URL Source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmICm4qO3i4 Published:Sep 20, 2023 Author:Max Blumenthal Post Date:2023-09-20 00:18:04 by Charles_Byrd Keywords:None Views:6561 Comments:87
The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal addresses the Ron Paul Institute's 2023 Washington DC conference on the disturbing plans in Kiev and Washington to convert Ukraine into a "Big Israel," and what this means for the region and the future of US politics.
Defeating Russia in the Ukraine is the key to the future. With Russia gone, we can focus on bringing China to a more rational stance, and avoid a war with them too.
FWIW...Russia ain't going anywhere. At some point, we need to find a way to peacefully coexist. The less human blood sacrificed in that righteous quest, the better...MUD
Otherwise the war continues. Russia is in a demographic, and therefore economic, death spiral. They will, in fact, cease to exist as a state if they engage in a forever war.
They can't win, and they can't keep going forever. They can be stubborn cunts and keep it going until they screw themselves into the ground, and nobody will regret their passing. OR they could pull out, make peace, change governments and start to repair themselves.
My bet is that they will remain stubborn, stupid cunts, and screw themselves into the ground proclaiming what a great nation they are, until they utterly collapse and cease to exist as an organized power. Ok. They're just not that important.
The ONLY THING they have is nuclear weapons. And their system is so corrupt and falling backwards, there's no knowing how many of those even work.
The rest of the world is not going to stand still in awe at Russia's nuclear arsenal. Nobody is going to invade them, but that's it. Nobody is going to let them invade their neighbors because they have nukes. Yeah? So do we. And we have more accurate, newer ones, and a Western world of about 2.5 billion people. If we DID have a nuclear exchange, we would lose a lot of people, that is true. Russia only has 140 million people. The race would be exterminated forever. The world would go and repair itself, WITHOUT Russia or Russians.
There will not always be a Russia. The Russians have to start acting rationally if they want to survive. Aging nuclear weapons are the only line they have against being overrun by the Chinese, who claim Siberia. Russia doesn't have anywhere near the army to keep out the Chinese, only nukes could do it.
OR Russia could knock off the oppression, join the West, and have the whole might of the West protecting them against China.
But, like I said, the Russians are cunts, stupid cunts, so they're going to choose to fight the whole West in Ukraine, for as long as they can, and then collapse and cease to matter as a nation. Ok.
"Russia is in a demographic, and therefore economic, death spiral. They will, in fact, cease to exist as a state if they engage in a forever war."
While I agree nobody is making a bee-line to emigrate TO Russia, and with teir low, low birthrate, they--and the Chinese, btw--are facing a demographic downturn that will possibly be catastrophic. However, the U.S. is presently $33 TRILLION in debt with no will to curtail spending on domestic niceties, so engaging in a "forever war" via proxy will result in a financial collapse like we havben't seen in almost 100 years...MUD
With ATACMs and F16, Ukraine will break the Russian defenses in the South and cut off Crimea and half the Russian army, and that will lead to taking back Crimea. Donbass is much harder, because it abuts Russia.
Once Russia is driven back to just the Donbass, maybe a peace deal can be struck giving them the wrecked and depopulated Donbass.
Rev16.16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Rev19.11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
The Khazars can genocide and take the land for "big Israel" but they will only hold it for a few short agony filled years.
At which time God will come and literally cut their guts out and feed their flesh to the birds of the air.
A sort of light. The light is "He really believes that the Ukraine war has to do with John's dream in the Apocalypse." It's not "Wow, this is the end of times."
When the world doesn't end, and no riders show up with seals, or sheep covered with eyes and the lot, it will be a disappointment for you, just as the world not ending a few years ago when those guys were certain it would.
And yet they go on, convinced that the world is ending soon, and that they just miscalculated a little.
Obviously I think a story told from the perspective of an ancient fever dream is not actual future history, and it has no predictive quality whatever. And just as obviously, you think it does.
And we'll both go to our graves thinking that, but it won't be in the world ending.
I have explained ad nauseum to this forum the evidence of the white horse rider (the 1st seal) in 2020. Followed very clearly by the red horse rider in Feb. 2022, and now the unmistakable appearance of the Black horse rider of inflation for the working-class people.
Amazingly, in 2020, we witnessed a peace treaty (the Abraham Accords) that fulfills Daniel9.27
But this alone is not sufficient. The real timekeeper of prophecy is Israel, being restored in the land, currently preparing to build a temple, obtaining red heifers for the cleansing, and the revealing of the man of lawlessness (who tells you in no uncertain terms who he is) who will become the long awaited Mashiach.
Furthermore, we see the condition of humanity (delusional to believe the lies), and the churches (having fallen away, not restraining evil).
What have I over looked? I'm sure there is more but what I have presented will suffice for a while.
it will be a disappointment for you
More than that, I will cease my ministry as "watchman". There is a time constraint. If the prophesy does not keep unfolding, time will run out. Everything is very unique in its fulfillment. Israel, the opening of the seals, the strong delusion, the falling away...for all these things to reappear at some later date, there would need to be a whole resetting of the world, just to swing around again and arrive at the circumstances we see now...probably take hundreds of years.
Vic, prophesy WILL be fulfilled. Now is the time. The evidences are laid out for us to see. If all this adds up to nothing, then I resign. I am reminded of the verse where believers whose faith is based on a myth are most pathetic of all humanity...
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
So go ahead, throw your best objections at it. See if what I say will stand up to examination.
There's just no point. We come from different poles of existence. Anything I could say might be insulting, and I don't want to do that. So, go in peace.
"There's just no point. We come from different poles of existence. Anything I could say might be insulting, and I don't want to do that. So, go in peace."
Wow...I am impressed. Very enlightened response, V13...MUD
I have decided that all I can do to state my faith is what I have promised to Stone: systematically go through Jesus, and lay end-to-end the things HE said, because HE is the son of God.
Everything else ends up being "Jesus PLUS", and in my experience, everything that's "Jesus PLUS" ends up being Minus Jesus. And the only person in that whole Biblical milieu I'm willing to listen to is Jesus. The trouble with Moses, Ezra, etc., is that they're pronouncing death and exclusion. And the trouble with Paul, James and John is that what they say contradicts Jesus, and always, inevitably, in a way that I disagree with. I'm aligned with Jesus, and when somebody says something different from Jesus, that difference is invariably worse, in my experience. So I just stick with him.
This makes sense, given that he's God.
But many people have replaced Jesus with the Bible, making the Bible God.
Jesus did not say to do that. He said "Follow ME", and he didn't leave a Bible.
So, when I see Jesus excoriating the Jews time and again for their traditions that completely close off what Jesus was saying, I see Christians and their Bible doing exactly the same thing. And I am unimpressed with this. I am also unimpressed with how mean and carping they are about it.
the Bible ain't God. God is God. Now, what God said is IN the Bible, in the mouth of Jesus. Follow THAT. But the Bible ALSO contains things out of other people's mouths, that contradict Jesus.
Don't follow that.
This makes some people accuse me of being a demon.
I would say that they are tradition-mongering Pharisees, and the Bible is their tradition.
Obviously we are never going to see eye to eye, just as most of the Jews never saw eye to eye with Jesus (and the ones who did, stopped being Jews in time and became Christians). But the Christians, in later ages, erected their OWN traditions that replace Jesus, and did various terrible things like murdering people.
I have no patience for any of that.
And I have only limited patience for the cheerleaders of that, which is precisely what Christian tradition-mongers are.
Just shut up and follow Christ, and all will be well. Is that so hard? Why do people work so hard to follow everybody BUT Christ? The answer is that Christ demands things of people they don't want to do, while the others present a way of thinking and being that is easier, lets them feel holy, without actually DOING what Jesus said to do.
It's "Christian", but it ain't following Jesus.
I stick with Jesus, and I see the tempests of anger that raises.
And I provoke them - just like he did.
But I need to get through the Scriptures and present Jesus, Just Jesus. And let the storm wail away after that - I won't care!
