Title: QnA: Does forgiveness get old? Does Paul agree with Jesus? How can I honor an abusive father? Source:
Bryan Wolfmueller URL Source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_fe-uTxjQ Published:Aug 17, 2023 Author:Pastor Bryan Wolfmueller Post Date:2023-08-17 02:40:43 by Charles_Byrd Keywords:None Views:2418 Comments:40
Pastors Bryan Wolfmueller and Andrew Packer answer your theological and Biblical questions.
Nah, I like Paul. But Paul does conflict with Jesus, James and John from time to time. Paul has good things to say, but he's not God.
See, this is the problem you Protestants have. You act as though the Bible itself is God. It isn't. God is God. Some of what God said is in the Bible, and what other people said is too. And it conflicts with itself, as any anthology covering 4000 years of history will do.
This doesn't bother me, for whom the highest authority is the most recent things God said, and Jesus is the most recent set of those things. So Jesus, not the whole Bible, is the gold standard. Where Paul conflicts with Jesus, Paul is to be ignored. Where James conflicts with Jesus, he's wrong. Where John conflicts with Jesus, ignore John. Where Yahweh conflicts with Jesus (over shellfish, for example, or death for sexual offenses), ignore Yahweh and go with Jesus.
Jesus alone is the ultimate authority. Obviously this puts Jesus above the rest of the Bible.
No Protestant can accept that. And so Protestantism is a welter of contradicting and competing sects.
The Catholic Church gets it right that the Bible isn't God, and it puts Jesus first in the Scriptures, which is better than the other positions. BUT then the Catholics (and the Orthodox) put the Church before Jesus, so if there's something they particularly like or want, they'll fetch it from Paul, or James, or themselves in the middle ages, and put that before Jesus.
Which makes the Orthodox and the Catholics wrong also, just differently wrong than the Protestants.
The Protestants place the Bible as an idol before God. The Catholics and the Orthodox place their churches as an idol before God. They're all wrong. The first authority is Jesus. Yes, he is in the Bible, but everything else in the Bible, or the Church, that conflicts with Jesus, is obviously wrong, because, simply put, Jesus was God Incarnate, and the Bible and the Church are not.
Period. Nothing more to discuss.
If you disagree, you're obviously wrong - and an idolater of the Bible or the Church. Do me a favor and go argue with the trees - I am not interested in you.
But Paul does conflict with Jesus, James and John from time to time.
Give me one example of conflict between any of the writers you mentioned...just one will do. We'll see if there is any truth in what you say.
You act as though the Bible itself is God.
Hogwash, and you know it.
But, there is the verse that states:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
We Christians know what this means, being made known to us inwardly by God's Spirit. But how can I explain this to you since you do not have God's indwelling Spirit to help you understand.
The Catholic Church gets it right that the Bible isn't God, and it puts Jesus first in the Scriptures
The Catholic Church puts Mary first, then the Pope, then a statue of dead Jesus on a cross. (Mary being the fourth member of the Trinity)
Nothing more to discuss.
Humbug. Discussion to you being to blather like a brute beast about things you do not understand.
I am not interested in you.
Well, I am a most uninteresting fellow. But then there is you, Vic, (that is, your soul) the emptiness of which is of great interest to me.
