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Title: Here’s a BIG Difference Between Bush and Obama Policy
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03 ... between-bush-and-obama-policy/
Published: Mar 3, 2010
Author: David Forsmark
Post Date: 2010-03-03 10:10:53 by dont eat that
Keywords: None
Views: 14333
Comments: 86

Under Obama foreign policy, this guy would be still doing this to other people.

Here’s a BIG Difference Between Bush and Obama Policy 2010 March 3 by David Forsmark

Under Obama foreign policy, this guy would be still doing this to other people.

Ryan Mauro replied to my post that it does matter whether Republicans and Democrats are in charge of foreign policy with this fair point:

David Forsmark replied to my post about the George W. Obama Administration here, titled “Yes, Ryan, There IS a Difference Between the 2 Parties on National Security.” Just a little clarification: I was comparing the Obama and Bush Administrations, not necessarily both parties, and I didn’t say there was no difference at all, just nothing really decisive in my opinion.

Well, I’d say Saddam could point out one decisive difference for you, Ryan.

And, as you yourself point out, the “surge” would not have happened under Obama and Iraq would be well on its way to slipping back into tyranny.

Moreover, giving Obama credit that CIA interrogators are not being prosecuted, that KSM is not being tried in New York, or that the Patriot Act was renewed thanks to public pressure (and great work by Congressmen Pete Hoekstra and Peter King holding their feet to the public fire) is like giving the Clintons credit that Hillarycare did not become reality.

Yes, Obama has sometimes bowed to reality, particularly in foreign policy. But every instinct of this Administration has initially taken it in the opposite direction until it had to be dragged kicking and screaming to a politically defensible position.

The fact that this has not led to a major disaster yet, is just good fortune. I would rather not have to bet on it continuing. (1 image)

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#1. To: dont eat that (#0)

Saddam was tried and executed under existing Iraqi law...or so we were told...

Is that no longer the case?

war  posted on  2010-03-03   10:12:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#1)

Under Obama foreign policy, this guy would be still doing this to other people.

4,400 Americans would still be alive, tens of thousands more wouldn't be maimed, and the country wouldn't have run up a $trillion in debt during the Bush years.

Was all that worth it?

go65  posted on  2010-03-03   12:23:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: go65 (#43)

4,400 Americans would still be alive

How do you know?

tens of thousands more wouldn't be maimed,

Saddam Hussein was going to stop maiming people?

and the country wouldn't have run up a $trillion in debt during the Bush years.

What's going to be Obama's reason for running up a 10 trillion dollar debt during his years?

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-03   12:33:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: dont eat that (#46)

What's going to be Obama's reason for running up a 10 trillion dollar debt during his years?

Boy Blunder's unpaid for liabilities...

war  posted on  2010-03-03   12:40:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war (#49)

Most of the liabilities of the Federal government go back to Johnson and FDR.

Are you going to be blaming them, too?

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-03   12:42:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: dont eat that (#51)

Most of the liabilities of the Federal government go back to Johnson and FDR.

Are you going to be blaming them, too?

No. All of humankind's problems begin with Bush and end with Bush.

Bush was too stupid to tie his shoes, but he was smart enough to create a hurricane to destroy New Orleans.

Bush spent too much money, but he didn't spend enough.

All the world hated us when Bush was prez, but they all love us now.

Bush's wars are evil, but Obama's are good.

Running up a trillion dollar debt was bad when Bush did it, but running up a multi-trillion dollar debt is good when Obama does it.

Wiretapping is bad when Bush does it, but it is good when Obama does it.

That's all for today. Class will resume this time tomorrow. For your homework, face Washington DC and say five "Hail Obamas."

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   12:57:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#53) (Edited)

Bush's wars are evil, but Obama's are good.

I challenge you to point out a) where Obama has even started a war let alone b) cite anyone here who has proclaimed it good...

Running up a trillion dollar debt was bad when Bush did it, but running up a multi-trillion dollar debt is good when Obama does it.

The majority of debt that has been run up is a direct result of the failures of Obama's predecessor. You cannot spin your way out of that in any way...

war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:23:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: war (#60)

failures of Obama's predecessor.

You're right.

All humankind's problems begin with Bush and end with Bush.

How could I have fogotten

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   13:26:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Get Outta Dodge!, badeye, go65 (#61) (Edited)

It's also not lost on me that you folks claim to dislike what he did while refusing to acknowledge the long term effects of it...

But then both of you should keep reading go's tagline and maybe you'll stop feeling the need to prove it...

war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:35:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war, go65 (#68)

It's also not lost on me that you folks claim to dislike what [Bush] did while refusing to acknowledge the long term effects of it...
You want me to acknowlege what he did? Okay.

Bush screwed things up royally. It would take years for the country to recover.

but read on . . .

Obama IS SCREWING THINGS UP spectacularly - and the country will never recover.

But then both of you should keep reading go's tagline and maybe you'll stop feeling the need to prove it...
go65 - while probably a nice person - is a shill the same as you are. Unlike you two, I have the ability to think beyond the two-party (GOP bad, Dems good) paradigm.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   13:53:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#76) (Edited)

Obama IS SCREWING THINGS UP spectacularly - and the country will never recover.

We haven't recovered from Boy Blunder yet and NO ONE who won in '08 would have it straightened out by now. You folks took YEARS to wake up to the fact that Boy Blunder was fucking every poodle that he could find...so excuse me if your opinion means dick...

war  posted on  2010-03-03   14:15:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#80)

Boy Blunder

Answer me this:

How can he be so stupid AND so diabolically evil at the same time?

You really should see someone about your fixations. Seriously.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   14:21:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#81)

Feel free to show me any philosophical pardigm in which incompetency is incompatible with evil.

Thanks...

war  posted on  2010-03-03   14:23:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: war (#82)

Feel free to show me any philosophical pardigm in which incompetency is incompatible with evil.

Thanks...

Well, not if you believe in a "devil." But I thought you didn't.

Or - is Bush the devil. Ah . . . that's it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   14:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#84. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#83) (Edited)

Feel free to say what you mean. You posed the question...now you appear to not even understand what you asked...

You asked how someone who is stupid could also be evil as if they are mutually exclusive...they aren't. That was my answer.

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