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Title: Here’s a BIG Difference Between Bush and Obama Policy
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03 ... between-bush-and-obama-policy/
Published: Mar 3, 2010
Author: David Forsmark
Post Date: 2010-03-03 10:10:53 by dont eat that
Keywords: None
Views: 14338
Comments: 86

Under Obama foreign policy, this guy would be still doing this to other people.

Here’s a BIG Difference Between Bush and Obama Policy 2010 March 3 by David Forsmark

Under Obama foreign policy, this guy would be still doing this to other people.

Ryan Mauro replied to my post that it does matter whether Republicans and Democrats are in charge of foreign policy with this fair point:

David Forsmark replied to my post about the George W. Obama Administration here, titled “Yes, Ryan, There IS a Difference Between the 2 Parties on National Security.” Just a little clarification: I was comparing the Obama and Bush Administrations, not necessarily both parties, and I didn’t say there was no difference at all, just nothing really decisive in my opinion.

Well, I’d say Saddam could point out one decisive difference for you, Ryan.

And, as you yourself point out, the “surge” would not have happened under Obama and Iraq would be well on its way to slipping back into tyranny.

Moreover, giving Obama credit that CIA interrogators are not being prosecuted, that KSM is not being tried in New York, or that the Patriot Act was renewed thanks to public pressure (and great work by Congressmen Pete Hoekstra and Peter King holding their feet to the public fire) is like giving the Clintons credit that Hillarycare did not become reality.

Yes, Obama has sometimes bowed to reality, particularly in foreign policy. But every instinct of this Administration has initially taken it in the opposite direction until it had to be dragged kicking and screaming to a politically defensible position.

The fact that this has not led to a major disaster yet, is just good fortune. I would rather not have to bet on it continuing. (1 image)

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#28. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#22)

Perhaps. But the fact remains we won the war, and it appears the aftermath of the war as well.

Another Democracy in the Middle East is a very good thing.

Ask Iran, cause they damn sure aren't happy about it.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   12:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#26)

None of what you post shows 'empire building' nor does it distract from the point being made.

In fact, you should look up the term 'empire' based on what your saying here.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   12:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Badeye (#28)

I'm Pat Buchanan when it comes to the US sticking its nose into other country's business.

Sadly - me and Pat are about the only ones.

Obammy sez it
I believes it
an' that settles it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   12:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Sarajevo (#20) (Edited)

BS. Iraq will degenerate into a black hole.

It's all part of the staging. We now have some control over two widely separated but strategically placed countries. The big country in the middle is the only logical choice to be the next area of interest. The area is also on some ancient maps as part of a large homeland for some "chosen" people.

mininggold  posted on  2010-03-03   12:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#30)

Fine, that view was aired repeatedly, and rejected.

My point is it doesn't matter here, today.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   12:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: dont eat that (#25)

Just as we've done in Germany, Japan

Declared wars and had there been no Cold War hysteria we'd have been out of there when Stevenson was POTUS.

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   12:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Bartcoprules (#12)

I have no idea what Padlock says other than "Boy Blunder - Good...Obama - Nigger"...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   12:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#33)

Stevenson

Another dumbass. No wonder you admire him.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-03   12:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#32)

Fine, that view was aired repeatedly, and rejected.

My point is it doesn't matter here, today.

Nobody has elected you the arbiter of "views" here. So get over yourself.

mininggold  posted on  2010-03-03   12:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold (#36)

Fuck off kookie, the adults are talking.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   12:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#24)

Okay....pint, er, point to you...

Any reason it can't be both?

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-03-03   12:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Badeye (#37)

Fuck off kookie, the adults are talking.

Not with you in the room. It's impossible. You devolve whereever you are, Boof...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   12:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Bartcoprules (#38)

Kewel...BOTH to you then and again...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   12:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: dont eat that (#35)

I've made no statement about Stevenson but if we don't engage in the irrational fear of the USSR there is no need to elect a general.

Dosns't matter tho...Ike totally turned on the people who elected him and gave us Earl Warren which, given that the nation was a step away from fascism, was a good thing...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   12:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Badeye (#37)

Fuck off kookie, the adults are talking.

The only kooks are the ones trying to spin the same ol ME war goals every day of the week. Meaning you Kook face.

mininggold  posted on  2010-03-03   12:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#1)

Under Obama foreign policy, this guy would be still doing this to other people.

4,400 Americans would still be alive, tens of thousands more wouldn't be maimed, and the country wouldn't have run up a $trillion in debt during the Bush years.

Was all that worth it?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-03-03   12:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: go65 (#43)

4,400 Americans would still be alive, tens of thousands more wouldn't be maimed, and the country wouldn't have run up a $trillion in debt during the Bush years.

Was all that worth it?

Are you against all such wars?

Or just those that begin under GOP administrations?

Obammy sez it
I believes it
an' that settles it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   12:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#41)

irrational fear of the USSR

what a ridiculous comment

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-03   12:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: go65 (#43)

4,400 Americans would still be alive

How do you know?

tens of thousands more wouldn't be maimed,

Saddam Hussein was going to stop maiming people?

and the country wouldn't have run up a $trillion in debt during the Bush years.

What's going to be Obama's reason for running up a 10 trillion dollar debt during his years?

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-03   12:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mininggold (#42)

Whatever kookie. Go look for evidence of a fake moon landing...

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   12:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: go65 (#43)

Yes it was. History will note it a hundred years from now.

And it didn't run up a trillion dollar debt. Nice spin for DU or dailykos, but not here.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   12:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: dont eat that (#46)

What's going to be Obama's reason for running up a 10 trillion dollar debt during his years?

Boy Blunder's unpaid for liabilities...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   12:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: dont eat that (#45)

Being a liberal means you pretend the Soviet Union didn't attack every single nation that had a common border with them post WWII.

Irrational fear? God, what a dunce. Then again, being a Democrat means you ignore reality. And history apparently.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   12:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war (#49)

Most of the liabilities of the Federal government go back to Johnson and FDR.

Are you going to be blaming them, too?

dont eat that  posted on  2010-03-03   12:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: dont eat that (#51)

Most of the liabilities of the Federal government go back to Johnson and FDR.

Are you going to be blaming them, too?

Why don't you just go all the way back to Lincoln.

mininggold  posted on  2010-03-03   12:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: dont eat that (#51)

Most of the liabilities of the Federal government go back to Johnson and FDR.

Are you going to be blaming them, too?

No. All of humankind's problems begin with Bush and end with Bush.

Bush was too stupid to tie his shoes, but he was smart enough to create a hurricane to destroy New Orleans.

Bush spent too much money, but he didn't spend enough.

All the world hated us when Bush was prez, but they all love us now.

Bush's wars are evil, but Obama's are good.

Running up a trillion dollar debt was bad when Bush did it, but running up a multi-trillion dollar debt is good when Obama does it.

Wiretapping is bad when Bush does it, but it is good when Obama does it.

That's all for today. Class will resume this time tomorrow. For your homework, face Washington DC and say five "Hail Obamas."

Obammy sez it
I believes it
an' that settles it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   12:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#53)

rotflmao! Ain't that the truth.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   13:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Badeye (#50) (Edited)

Being a liberal means you pretend the Soviet Union didn't attack every single nation that had a common border with them post WWII.

When did the USSR attack China or Iran or North Korea? The biggest lie of the 20th century is found in the fact that Soviet hegemony in the Eastern Bloc was a Post WWII phenomenom.

Serbia started WWI...who was its staunchest ally?

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Badeye (#50)

Being a liberal means you pretend the Soviet Union didn't attack every single nation that had a common border with them post WWII.

When did they attack Mongolia, China, Turkey, and Iran?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-03-03   13:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Badeye (#48)

Yes it was. History will note it a hundred years from now.

You know, the GOP might actually still control the Congress and the WH if not for the decision to invade Iraq.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-03-03   13:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: go65 (#56) (Edited)

the Soviet Union didn't attack every single nation that had a common border with them post WWII.

I swear to God that if you substituted Don Knots for John Belushi in Animal House [Was it over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor?!?] you'd have a better grasp of Boofer moments like these...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: go65 (#57) (Edited)

The best thing that happened to Boy Blunder in 2004 was John Kerry...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#53) (Edited)

Bush's wars are evil, but Obama's are good.

I challenge you to point out a) where Obama has even started a war let alone b) cite anyone here who has proclaimed it good...

Running up a trillion dollar debt was bad when Bush did it, but running up a multi-trillion dollar debt is good when Obama does it.

The majority of debt that has been run up is a direct result of the failures of Obama's predecessor. You cannot spin your way out of that in any way...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: war (#60)

failures of Obama's predecessor.

You're right.

All humankind's problems begin with Bush and end with Bush.

How could I have fogotten

Obammy sez it
I believes it
an' that settles it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-03-03   13:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: dont eat that (#45) (Edited)

what a ridiculous comment

Yea...the reaction while Sputnik flew over head was very rational...

Ferrering out Hollywood screen wrters was another...

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: go65 (#56)

Look it up, that way it 'sticks'. The cross border transgressions are well documented, if you look for them.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   13:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#61) (Edited)

As I said, you cannot spin out of it. He left everything a fucking mess and it started with the insane tax cuts and ended with a total abdication of any sense of fiscal or regulatory discipline.

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: go65 (#57)

Doubt it. The spending had pissed off so many within the base..and the fact is total control by either party is bad for 'We the People'.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   13:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Badeye, go65 (#63) (Edited)

Look it up,

We're not your file clerks, Boofer...but given your past history of the four boards from which you've been banned, and the tens of thousands of posts in which you've said this, it's a sure sign that you're lying.

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war  posted on  2010-03-03   13:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#61)

(laughing)

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-03-03   13:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Get Outta Dodge!, badeye, go65 (#61) (Edited)

It's also not lost on me that you folks claim to dislike what he did while refusing to acknowledge the long term effects of it...

But then both of you should keep reading go's tagline and maybe you'll stop feeling the need to prove it...

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