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Title: Right Wing Slams White House For Meeting With Atheist 'Hate Groups’
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RAW STORY
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2010/02/obama-meeting-atheist-hate-groups/
Published: Feb 27, 2010
Author: By Daniel Tencer
Post Date: 2010-02-27 13:19:33 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 791
Comments: 19
Some conservative commentators are accusing the Obama administration of inviting "hate groups" into the White House by holding a meeting with a coalition of secularist and atheist groups. Officials from the Justice and Health and Human Services departments met Friday with representatives of the Secular Coalition for America, an umbrella group that includes American Atheists and the Council for Secular Humanism. The coalition called it "the first time in history a presidential administration has met for a policy briefing with the American nontheist community." President Barack Obama was not scheduled to make an appearance at the meeting, nor were any policy changes to be announced, McClatchy news service reported. But that didn't stop a number of religious conservative groups from attacking the meeting as a sign the president has an anti-religious agenda. "It is one thing for Administration to meet with groups of varying viewpoints, but it is quite another for a senior official to sit down with activists representing some of the most hate-filled, anti-religious groups in the nation," said Council Nedd, chairman of the religious advocacy group In God We Trust. Story continues below... Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, said the meeting provided a "definitive answer" about the administration's stance towards religion. "People of faith, especially Christians, have good reason to wonder exactly where their interests lie with the Obama administration," Donohue said in a statement. "Now we have the definitive answer. In an unprecedented move, leaders of a presidential administration are hosting some of the biggest anti-religious zealots in the nation." But Dr. Ed Buckner, head of American Atheists, praised the Obama administration for including non-believers in the political dialogue, something he said was missing from previous administrations. "Over 13 percent of the population is considered 'non-religious,' and this includes millions of atheists, freethinkers, humanists, rationalists, and other citizens," Buckner said. "We are committed to the separation of church and state and to equality for non-believers in the political arena. Religious speakers must not continue to be given special privileges." According to ABC News, three issues were on the agenda at the meeting: The use of "faith healing" on children, which the coalition describes as a form of "child abuse"; the "pervasive" religious atmosphere in the US military; and faith-based initiatives. "I have witnessed firsthand how [military] service members who are openly non-theist have been harassed by their commanders, leaders, and peers, and have been disrespected by their subordinates for failing to hold certain religious beliefs," said American Atheists vice president Kathleen Johnson. Johnson called on the Obama administration to make non-theists "a protected class throughout the Armed Services on par with the protections afforded to women, minorities, and those belonging to minority faith groups." Coalition representative Paul Fidalgo told McClatchy News Service that the coalition felt the meeting went "very, very well" and that members were "encouraged by the reception we got today." But he gave no further details, noting the coalition and the administration had agreed not to speak publicly about the specifics of the meeting. In comments posted Friday, blogger "Kyle" at Right Wing Watch suggested that religious groups criticizing the Obama administration for welcoming "hate groups" are guilty of hypocrisy. "President Bush would never have met with anyone who espoused 'hate-filled views' ... would he?" the blogger asked sarcastically, above a list of religious leaders, known for their anti-gay stances, who met with President George W. Bush in the White House during the former president's term. For the period April 2001 through June 2006, Focus on the Family Founder and Chairman Emeritus James Dobson visited the White House 24 times; 10 of those visits were to President Bush. Andrea Lafferty, Executive Director of the Traditional Values Coalition, made an astonishing 50 visits to the White House starting on February 1, 2001, and continuing through March 16, 2008. Six of those visits were to President Bush. The late Jerry Falwell, of Jerry Falwell Ministries, made eight visits to the White House between May 2001 and September 2004. Three of those visits were to President Bush.
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
Fred Phelps was there?
He should have met with God Hates Fags instead...
Day 6 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 4 Of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount?
Atheism, defined most narrowly, is the position that there are no deities. (from the wiki). As we all know, you can not prove the negative. So perhaps atheism is a form of faith, a faith in a negative proposition. It is also a logical fallacy and an intellectual conceit.
“There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”
As opposed to those who proclaim that they are the most righteous, therefore better, simply because they profess belief in a Sky Ghost? Please...you took goofy to a new level with that one...
Day 6 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 4 Of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount?
I don't remember telling you what to believe. Don't proselytize your faith to me.
“There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”
Wha...chuckle...huh? That statement made no sense in any context of my response to you.
Day 6 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 4 Of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount?
That's EXACTLY what I tell ALL my Obamabot friends...MUD BTW...the RAT-Messiah's a friggin' FRAUD!!
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, You said a mouthful, my friend...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Especially the faggots like Sammy Gay, warts and ethyl. Hey fags.... Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?
Yes you piece of fascist shit......Registered Democrap and 5 times failed Democrap candidate Fred Phelps was there. All your plantation massah f'ing libtard freak / politicians were there in spirit.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
The "logic" behind atheism sorta escapes me, too, but does THAT make atheism-- as a intellectual concept--a "logical fallacy"? If so, how? Regards...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Not believing in a presence that some will tell you is there but since that presence shows no evidence of itself either in the past or present and thus maifestst disbelief is illogical to you? You know that the rabbit was IN the hat before the guy pulled it out, right, Nudge?
Day 8 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 6 Of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount?
IMO - agnostics (I DON'T KNOW if God exists) are at least on more logically solid ground that atheists (I KNOW that God does not exist). What arrogance (and stupidity) it must take to believe that mankind KNOWS everything - and that mankind is the "be all" and "end all". Kind of like the Algore logic that says mankind can control the weather or destroy the planet.
Obammy sez it Got it...thanks.
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, It is a logical fallacy to claim that nowhere in the (perhaps) unlimited and unknown vastness of space, that something does not exist. And then to compound the error by ridiculing those who say they believe the "something" does exist. It is not possible to PROVE a negative in such an open system. To contrast, if we were talking about an empty Adidas shoebox and I said there are no shoes in it, well, I can PROVE that.
“There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”
Nowhere in that vast universe is it logical to prove a negative. Except, of course, in the far reaches between your ears....
Day 8 of Packrat refusing to register here. Day 6 Of Boofer The One Eyed Wonder Bot refusing to answer: When is Blackwell going to have the recount? Jan 30, 2006 ... by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot...)
Agreed...proselytizing atheists annoy me, too...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, "Black II" Ahhh-aiiggghhh...yeh...yeah-ahhh!! Sleepy shady campsite...lovely FReepin' day... I'll take the watch tonite...Left's surrounded by TYRANTS and HATE!! Un hunh...un hunh...woo... I know someday, Jewel'll make a beautiful wife... Doo dah doo doo doodie doo... Mudboy Slim and the Centaurs (9/18/01)...one week A.W.T.C.
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, "Patriot Mudboy's RightWing Tune!!" Folks, heed my warning, Guv'ment Debt HURTS this Land... Mudboy knows...Truth must be told!! Come on, Patriots, let's be BOLD!! (BigMan pickin' it purty...) Well, my kids grow'd up...folks, it don't take long... Come on, RightWing, welcome home!! "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,"It is one thing for Administration to meet with groups of varying viewpoints, but it is quite another for a senior official to sit down with activists representing some of the most hate-filled, anti-religious groups in the nation"
#2. To: Skip Intro, Brian S. (#1)
"It is one thing for Administration to meet with groups of varying viewpoints, but it is quite another for a senior official to sit down with activists representing some of the most hate-filled, anti-religious groups in the nation"
#3. To: Brian S (#0)
#4. To: Abcdefg (#3)
It is also a logical fallacy and an intellectual conceit.
#5. To: war (#4)
#6. To: Abcdefg (#5)
#7. To: Abcdefg, war, Samuel Gray, buckeroo, Jhoffa_, TLBSHOW, palo verde, Dakmar, Willie Green, Ethyl Mertz (#5)
"Don't proselytize yer faith to me."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#8. To: Abcdefg (#3)
"atheism is a form of faith"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#9. To: Mudboy Slim, war, Samuel Gray, Dakmar, Ethyl Mertz (#7)
That's EXACTLY what I tell ALL my Obamabot friends...MUD
#10. To: Skip Intro (#1)
Fred Phelps
#11. To: Abcdefg (#3)
"So perhaps atheism is a form of faith, a faith in a negative proposition. It is also a logical fallacy and an intellectual conceit."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#12. To: Mudboy Slim (#11)
The "logic" behind atheism sorta escapes me
#13. To: Mudboy Slim (#11)
The "logic" behind atheism sorta escapes me, too, but does THAT make atheism-- as a intellectual concept--a "logical fallacy"? If so, how?
I believes it
an' that settles it!
#14. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#13)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#11)
The "logic" behind atheism sorta escapes me, too, but does THAT make atheism-- as a intellectual concept--a "logical fallacy"? If so, how?
#16. To: Abcdefg (#15)
#17. To: Abcdefg (#15)
"It is a logical fallacy to claim that nowhere in the (perhaps) unlimited and unknown vastness of space, that something does not exist. And then to compound the error by ridiculing those who say they believe the "something" does exist."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#18. To: Abcdefg, Biff Tannen, Dakmar, TLBSHOW, Jhoffa_ (#15)
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Tanned legs spread out before me...sun-drenched body shined wet.
Lo...beauty from the Heavens...I revolved around her Sun. [MUD's Earth to Jewel's Sun]
Her warm scent I gasped, then I breathed...girrrrl's makin' me burn!!
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I still hear Slick's laughter...Bill LIES to hisself.
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SLAUGHTERED 'bout all I see...All that I am...All I'll Beeeeee...YEAH!!!!
I know she'll be MY Star...
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Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#19. To: Abcdefg, Murron, mel, palo verde (#15)
Reckon so...
(To be sung to Arlo Guthrie's "Gabriel's Mother's Highway Ballad #16!!")
Come on, children, come on...
Algore was bawlin', "Yer killin' my Plan!!"
Come on, children, come on...
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Dem RAT-FREAKS keep spendin'...Right must be BOLD!!
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WeThePeople, RAT-Elites MUST GO!!
Vote Dem Statists straight to HELL!!
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Family life is swell...let dad sing his songs!!
Come on, Jakey, play drums...
%0
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
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