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Title: Obama To GOP: It’s Over
Source: The Plum Line
URL Source: http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/s ... blicans/obama-to-gop-its-over/
Published: Feb 26, 2010
Author: Greg Sargent
Post Date: 2010-02-26 11:01:54 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 1594
Comments: 12

Obama listened politely for six hours, with occasional flashes of temper, but in the end, the message was clear: It’s over. We’re moving forward without Republicans.

Whether Obama and Dems will succeed in passing reform on their own is anything but assured, to put it mildly. But there’s virtually no doubt anymore that they are going to try — starting as early as tomorrow.

That was the subtle but unmistakable message of Obama’s closing argument. After hours of hearing Republicans repeat again and again that only an incremental approach to reform is acceptable to them, Obama rejected that out of hand.

Here’s the key bit from Obama:

I’d like Republicans to do a little soul searching to find out if there are some things that you’d be willling to embrace that get to this core problem of 30 million people without health insurance, and dealing seriously with the pre-existing conditions issue. I don’t know frankly whether we can close that gap.

And if we can’t close that gap, then I suspect Mitch McConnell, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and John Boehner are going to have a lot of arguments about procedures in Congress about moving forward.

Unless I’m misreading that, Obama is saying that unless Republicans support comprehensive reform as Obama and Dems have defined it — dealing with the problem of 30 million uninsured and, by extension, seriously tackling the preexisting condition problem — they will almost certainly move forward with reconciliation.

What’s more, Obama also essentially accused Republicans of approaching today’s summit in bad faith — after they had sat there with him for six hours. He said that even after the public option was taken off the table, Republicans continued to use the same “government takeover” slur.

“Even after the public option wasn’t available, we still hear the same rhetoric,” Obama said. “We have a concept of an exchange which previously has been an idea that was embraced by Republicans before I embraced it. Somehow, suddenly it became less of a good idea.”

This accusation, combined with his assertion that Repubicans need to do some “soul-searching” on whether they wanted to join Dems in tackling reform as they have defined it, amount to an unmistakable vow to move foward without them.

Democratic aides are already interpreting Obama’s remarks along these lines. As one senior aide emailed: “We may make one last effort to try to get a Senate Republican.”

In terms of who “won” today’s debate, I tend to think Republicans actually accomplished much of what they needed to do today. It seems likely that some Congressional Dems will be just as skittish tomorrow as they were yesterday about moving forward alone via reconciliation. That means Dems still have an enormously difficult task ahead.

But Obama’s message to Dems and Republicans alike today was that barring some kind of major change on the GOP side, this is exactly what he and Dem leaders are about to attempt.

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

The arrogance, egotism, and narcissim will be what makes Owe-Bama a one term abject failure, and its whats going to contribute greatly to this falls asskicking in the mid terms.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-02-26   11:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

So let's see - Obama's popularity is about the same as Reagan's at similar points in their terms.

And, in 1982 Reagan's GOP lost 27 seats in the Congress.

So...one can conclude that Reagan was an arrogant, egotistical narcissist, right?

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-02-26   14:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65, Badeye (#2)

So let's see - Obama's popularity is about the same as Reagan's at similar points in their terms.

And, in 1982 Reagan's GOP lost 27 seats in the Congress.

So...one can conclude that Reagan was an arrogant, egotistical narcissist, right?

So let's see - Churchill's popularity was about the same as Hitler's at similar points in their terms.

And, in 1946, Churchill was kicked out on his ass - and Hitler had already had his ass kicked.

So . . . one can conclude that Churchill was the same as Hitler, right?

Obammy sez it
I believes it
an' that settles it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-02-26   15:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#2)

Its always amusing when you Lefties unintentionally confirm what we've been telling you about Reagan for the past three decades...(chuckle)

Kinda telling there is nobody on your side of the political world that fits what you're attempting to spin here.

Owe-bama's a one term President. Its not even related to the politics. Its all about the unemployment numbers. As he's demonstrated, along with the imbeciles running the House and Senate for the moment, he doesn't have a CLUE what to do to reverse the economic implosion, and save his own Presidency.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-02-26   15:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#3)

(laughing)

Meanwhile, New York State is looking for a eunich to be Governor.

My anti groupie is ball-less, as we see daily here. Maybe he should sign up for the job?

Then again, his gay love affair with Fred Mertz might cause a scandal.... (chuckle)

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-02-26   15:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#5)

I'm pretty sure wee willie has me on bozo

Obammy sez it
I believes it
an' that settles it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-02-26   15:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#6)

(chuckle)

He can't do that for long, as years at LP demonstrated. When your alone, unemployed, and living off the government tit...well, you don't have much to occupy your day, or night, or weekends.

Ever notice he posts 24/7/365? And wonder how that is?

(laughing)

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-02-26   15:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#4)

Its always amusing when you Lefties unintentionally confirm what we've been telling you about Reagan for the past three decades...(chuckle)

You've been telling us he's like Obama for the last 3 decades?

Wow, I'm impressed that you made the connection when Obama was a teenager.

I will say that there's one big difference though, so far Obama has only cut taxes. Meanwhile Reagan raised them 3 times in his first term, before enacting the largest tax hike ever in 1986.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-02-26   16:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#3)

So let's see - Churchill's popularity was about the same as Hitler's at similar points in their terms.

And, in 1946, Churchill was kicked out on his ass - and Hitler had already had his ass kicked.

So . . . one can conclude that Churchill was the same as Hitler, right?

Churchill was asked by George VI to become prime minister and form a government. Hitler became Chancellor and seized absolute control of government via The Enabling Act.

That you would attempt to compare the two shows a troubling lack of historical knowledge.

Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.

go65  posted on  2010-02-26   16:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#9)

That you would attempt to compare the two shows a troubling lack of historical knowledge.

That you took that tongue in cheek post seriously shows a troubling lack of a sense of humor.

Obammy sez it
I believes it
an' that settles it!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2010-02-26   16:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#8)

Its always amusing when you Lefties unintentionally confirm what we've been telling you about Reagan for the past three decades...(chuckle)

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-02-26   17:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#3)

So let's see - Churchill's popularity was about the same as Hitler's at similar points in their terms.

And, in 1946, Churchill was kicked out on his ass - and Hitler had already had his ass kicked.

So . . . one can conclude that Churchill was the same as Hitler, right?

Now THAT was a terrific rejoinder to the screeching nonsense from that vile 2 legged vertical obama campaign yardsign jerkoff / aka GOtobama65:):)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-02-27   1:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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