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Title: Republicans Kick Obama's Worthless Ass at Health Care Summit
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URL Source: http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/9872
Published: Feb 25, 2010
Author: Don Surber
Post Date: 2010-02-25 16:37:48 by dont eat that
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Views: 4045
Comments: 67

Republicans are circulating quotes from all over about today’s summit on Obamacare.

Their sampling of quotes:

CNN’s WOLF BLITZER: “It looks like the Republicans certainly showed up ready to play.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

CNN’s GLORIA BORGER: “The Republicans have been very effective today. They really did come to play. They were very smart.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

BORGER: “They took on the substance of a very complex issue. … But they really stuck to the substance of this issue and tried to get to the heart of it and I think did a very good job.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

BORGER: “They came in with a plan. They mapped it out.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

CNN’s DAVID GERGEN: “The folks in the White House just must be kicking themselves right now. They thought that coming out of Baltimore when the President went in and was mesmerizing and commanding in front of the House Republicans that he could do that again here today. That would revive health care and would change the public opinion about their health care bill and they can go on to victory. Just the opposite has happened.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

GERGEN: “He doesn’t have a strong Democratic team behind him.” (CNN’s “Live,” 2/25/10)

THE HILL’S A.B. STODDARD: “I think we need to start out by acknowledging Republicans brought their ‘A Team.’ They had doctors knowledgeable about the system, they brought substance to the table, and they, I thought, expressed interest in the reform. I thought in the lecture from Senator John McCain and on the issue of transparency, I thought today the Democrats were pretty much on their knees.” (Fox News’ “Live,” 2/25/10)

THE WEEKLY STANDARD’S STEVE HAYES: “I think to me the most important thing to come out of the morning so far is that Republicans have spent a great deal of time talking with great passion, and I think eagerness about their plans, detailing the plans that until this morning them democrats had been saying didn’t exist. Well, you now see, I think, in great detail that Republicans do have plans, that they care about the same issues and that they feel passionately about it.” (Fox News’ “Live,” 2/25/10)

My take is this is health insurance is a boring topic that has shown just how boring and dull this president is. He is hopelessly lost in the Land of Actuarial Tables, where co-payments and deductibles rein.

I’m beginning to see why he keeps flogging this dead horse: He has nothing closer to a unicorn than this; it is all he knows.

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#8. To: dont eat that, badeye, war, sneakypete, murron, mininggold, fred mertz (#0)

I found it almost amusing that many of the folks who voted for Medicare Part D (Cantor, Ryan, Boehner to name a few), a massive, unfunded expansion of social welfare, spent yesterday criticizing Obama's health care plans (which actually reduce the long-term deficit).

But of course if we just hand power back to the folks who turned a massive surplus into a massive deficit, all will be well, right?

go65  posted on  2010-02-26   10:58:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#8)

The prescription drug program was not a takeover of the health care system. It was simply an added benefit under Medicare, and for what ever you want to think of it, it has generally been lauded as a successful program.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-02-26   11:13:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: dont eat that (#10)

The prescription drug program was not a takeover of the health care system. It was simply an added benefit under Medicare, and for what ever you want to think of it, it has generally been lauded as a successful program.

It was the first Bush bailout..... of the pharmaceuticals.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-26   11:16:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#11)

Q: Why has Medicare Part D been successful?

A: Medicare Part D has high satisfaction rates in large part due to the variety of plans for Medicare beneficiaries to choose from and its affordability. Currently, Iowa seniors can pick from close to 50 different prescription drug plans and find the one that meets their own individual needs. Competition between plans has lowered costs for both beneficiaries and the federal government. Today, Medicare Part D premiums are 36 percent less than originally estimated by expert forecasters, and the overall cost of the program is almost $240 billion less than was expected. All this means taxpayers are saving money and seniors are saving an average of $1,100 a year on prescription drug costs by enrolling in this successful program.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-02-26   11:24:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: dont eat that (#13)

A: Medicare Part D has high satisfaction rates in large part due to the variety of plans for Medicare beneficiaries to choose from and its affordability. Currently, Iowa seniors can pick from close to 50 different prescription drug plans and find the one that meets their own individual needs. Competition between plans has lowered costs for both beneficiaries and the federal government. Today, Medicare Part D premiums are 36 percent less than originally estimated by expert forecasters, and the overall cost of the program is almost $240 billion less than was expected. All this means taxpayers are saving money and seniors are saving an average of $1,100 a year on prescription drug costs by enrolling in this successful program.

So you don't have a problem with socialism then?

After all, under Medicare Part D seniors only pay 25% of their own prescription costs, 75% are covered by tax payers. So if you think that approach has been a success, why would you oppose additional expansion of federal health care programs?

go65  posted on  2010-02-26 11:26:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: dont eat that (#13)

Medicare’s Part D drug benefit is going to cost taxpayers a lot of money. A really, really lot of money.

You can find the story deep in the bowels of the Medicare Trustees report that was released earlier this week. It is a nice little case study of how a well-intentioned government program can add tens of billions of dollars annually to the federal deficit. And it is a cautionary tale of how hard it will be to bring medical costs under control, despite the promises of the Obama Administration and industry lobbyists.

Part D was adopted by Congress in 2003 and began to pay full benefits in 2006. When Congress passed the drug program, conservatives groused that it was too expensive, while liberals complained it was both too complicated and not generous enough.

Premiums finance only about 25 percent of the program’s cost—the rest is paid through general tax revenues. Unlike Part A hospital insurance, there is no payroll tax funding for this piece of Medicare.

For the past three years, benefits have been significantly lower than government actuaries first projected, in part because so few costly new drugs have made it on to the market. But don’t worry. That bit of fiscal good fortune is not likely to last long.

According to the actuary’s intermediate cost assumptions, Part D spending will nearly triple from about $50 billion last year to a staggering $140 billion in 2018. Per capita spending will more than double, from $1,500-a-year to almost $3,200. And the program’s long-run costs are even more troublesome: growing from about 0.4 percent of Gross Domestic Product in 2008 to 1.4 percent of GDP by mid-century to 1.8 percent by 2080. Yikes. That’s about 10 percent of what it has historically cost to run the entire federal government.

Just as troubling is the uncertainty of these estimates. While $140 billion is the mid-range forecast for 2018, the actuaries warn the cost could range from as low as $107 billion to as much as $180 billion. With admirable understatement, the trustees say, “there remains a very substantial level of uncertainty surrounding these costs projections.”

taxvox.taxpolicycenter.or...es/2009/5/14/4186168.html

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