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Title: The Pentagon Testified Assessing the Ukraine and No One Noticed
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URL Source: https://theconservativetreehouse.co ... ng-ukraine-and-no-one-noticed/
Published: May 14, 2022
Author: Sundance
Post Date: 2022-05-23 22:06:31 by 3-Dee
Keywords: None
Views: 2742
Comments: 42

As we contemplate the massive $40 billion transfer of U.S. taxpayer funds to Ukraine, a few things need to be emphasized.

First, congress has decided to pay the salaries, benefits and pensions of Ukraine political officials and citizens. As U.S. citizens try and figure out how to afford housing, gasoline, food and basic goods, congress has decided to subsidize another country. That’s the first point.

Second, as to the pragmatic question of “to what end?” There was a critical point made last week by Defense Intel Agency (DIA) Director Lt. Gen. Scott Berrier, that not a single media outlet or politician discussed. During his briefing to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Berrier was asked “can Ukraine win” the conflict against Russia?

Lt. General Berrier replied: “That is a difficult predication to make. I think where the assessment is at, is a prolonged stalemate should no factor change on either side. In other words, the Russians continue to do what they’re doing, and we continue to do what we are doing for the Ukranians.” WATCH:

The Pentagon assessment is the best that can be achieved is a stalemate. Billions of billions of dollars being poured into Ukraine, and the most likely outcome is a stalemate. More people killed, an endless need for continued money to be poured into the ‘war’, and the best possible outcome is a stalemate.

So, riddle me this, why isn’t the U.S. policy position advocating for Zelenskyy and Putin to enter negotiations for a resolution?

What possible U.S. interest can be advanced, knowing the only outcome is a stalemate, where people are killed on either side and money spent on a proxy conflict that ends in loggerheads at some distant point months from now?

Also, why has no U.S. media outlet or pundit played the remarks and assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency, so that the American people can understand the intent of U.S. policy?

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#1. To: 3-Dee (#0)

Simple. People are dying on both sides, yes.

The Ukrainians dying are brave, etc., etc. But they are not NATO allies. They HAVE TO fight for their independence. The alternative is to be swept into Russia and crushed. So, they will fight as long as we arm them, for years and years, like the mujahadeen.

On the other side is the enemy, Russia. Russia doesn't HAVE TO be the enemy, but they CHOOSE to be by being atavistic, aggressive fucks. However, as long as the West pours in weaponry, the Russians can't win, and keep getting chewed up. The Russians ae dying at three times the Ukrainian rate. And their heavy equipment is being destroyed.

So, it is a stalemate, yes. But a lengthy stalemate is very good for the United States. Russia had an economy the size of Italy's, but with sanctions and contractions, now it's the size of the Netherlands, and falling further and further. They HAVE TO devote it to the war, because they are ruled by a dictator and don't have the courage to throw him off. So they HAVE TO destroy themselves more and more and more every day. They cannot escape the suicide trap into which they have stuck their own heads. They are too proud and stubborn to admit defeat, so they have to die, and as they die, they deplete their armaments, deplate their army, and wreck their economy.

The longer the war goes on, the more of a shipwreck Russia becomes. Let it go on for a full year, and they will have nothing left, and never be able to get back up again. Russia has been our enemy since 1917, and we have them in a place now where we can cause themselves to snuff themselves out of existence by their own bloated stupidity. We would be mad not to exploit it.

The other thing is China. Big, bad, powerful China. We don't want to fight China in Taiwan, and China looks at Russia and they see themselves imploding too. They already have a first rate economic fire raging, getting into a naval and air war with the West over Taiwan that they can't win, and having trade cut off. The more Russia is destroyed, the less likely China will EVER move on Taiwan, or Japan, or the Philippines, or South Korea.

So, by grinding the Russians into the dirt, we also contain China.

It costs us no blood at all. Just a little money. $40 billion in a $6 trillion budget is two thirds of 1% - a pittance. Especially when compared wirth the US military budget, which is $750 billion.

Wear out Russia the most effective way: by directly destroying their army and troops, and contain China completely, for $40 billion, with no US losses? It's a no-brainer, ESPECIALLY since the whole alliance is together to do it for the first time, well, EVER.

The folks without brains are the ones whining about it. Are you really that blind and dumb? Really? It's incomprehensibly stupid not to see why this is necessary.

In fact, it's SO stupid that to advocate it, people think that you MUST be a Russian sympathizer.

So, which is it? Are you a Russian shill, or just an idiot?

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-05-24   8:47:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

In fact, it's SO stupid that to advocate it, people think that you MUST be a Russian sympathizer.

Unlike you, perhaps, I do not care what people think. You resort to name calling. You are a bully. Not everyone in this country supports Zelensky. Get over it.

3-Dee  posted on  2022-05-24   9:53:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: 3-Dee (#3)

You're a Russian shill. Shill away, it's a free country. Don't expect to find any support, though. What you are saying is obviously garbage.

The US isn't bullying Russia. The Russians invaded Ukraine and are getting their dicks cut off for it. All they need to do is get out of Ukraine. We're not invading Russia. We're never going to invade Russia.

The Russians are out of line. We're just defending Ukraine. Effectively. ANd the Russians, who don't belong there, are dying in droves. And will continue to die in droves until they leave.

Real simple. No amount of arm waving on your part will change any of it.

I'm not a bully. We're not bullies. I don't give a damn what the Russians do in Russia. But cross a border and try to murder another country. We're bigger and stronger and will win.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-05-25   9:25:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#10) (Edited)

"The US isn't bullying Russia."

Exactly...Putin is in favor of a New World Order that includes the reconstruction of the Soviet Empire. DemRATZ/RINOZ in the DeeCeeSwamp are in favor of a New World Order wherein Soulless Marxist DemocRATZ can control the Lives, Liberties, and the Pursuits of Happiness of a helpless, disarmed WeThePeople. The Butcherz in Beijing got nothing on the bloodthirsty baby-killers who are fighting to control Everyonez health care, housing, transportation options, educations, and every other Unconstitutional thing DemRATZ can come up with.

Time for WeThePeople to Take Back OUR Country from the undeniably EVIL, LeftWing, Marxist DeeCeeRATZ. And I pray for Justice for the HildaBeest, Slick Willie, TraitorJoe, TerrieMacAwful, Comey, Clapper, Pelosi, etc., etc., etc...

Drain the DeeCeeSwamp by DEfunding the Federal Leviathan and Devolving Power to the States, Localities, and Individuals, as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution. We're gonna make the scumbags who still claim to be DemocRATZ about as popular as syphilis.

Quite SincereLEE...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-05-25   15:20:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mudboy Slim (#13)

The time to DEVOLVE is over. I would support a 1776 type of "devolution". HEY, I should trademark that. "We need an American Devolution". Mudboy you are correct.

jeremiad  posted on  2022-05-25   16:52:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jeremiad (#17) (Edited)

The Founding Fathers had it correct when they enacted the Bill of Rights, especially the Ninth and Tenth amendments, which makes the Lion's Share of present Federal spending patently UN-Constitutional. And despite the RINO Chief Justice, we still have 5 out of 9 Justices on the SCOTUS who are allegedly Constitutionalists. If true, Roe v. Wade ain't the last UN-Constitutional ruling to be overturned...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-05-25   21:09:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: watchman, Vicomte13, goldilucky, A K A Stone, jeremiad, Mudboy Slim, 3-Dee, WWG1WWA, tankumo (#18)

Off topic but does anyone here know the title of the fictional story about a grandfather who buries his guns to hide them from the gov't and before he dies, he takes his grandson to the place where they are buried, telling him why he buried them, but then the kid calls the Feds and turns gramps in? I've seen it posted at FR and maybe at the old LibertyPost but can't remember the title. Something "Rock" I think.

Wanted to share it with my adult son.

Thanks

Deckard  posted on  2022-05-25   21:52:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#19)

FOUND IT !

Sundown at Coffin Rock

here is a link:

https://www.hagmannreport.com/sundown-at-coffin-rock/

I hope your son takes to heart the meaning, and lesson's of the story.

I think I will print copies, for my children, and for others !!

Regards

Stoner  posted on  2022-05-28   9:38:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Stoner (#27)

Great job. Thanks for finding it. I had never read that story.

watchman  posted on  2022-05-28   18:09:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: watchman, Deckard (#28) (Edited)

I found another "chapter " of Coffin Rock, here it is

Link: http://usavsus.info/SunriseAtCoffinRock.htm

In case there is a problem with the link, here is the continued story:

Would love to see subsequent chapters

Sunrise at Coffin Rock

Thomas sat alone upon the cold stone, shivering slightly in the chilly pre-dawn air of this April morning. The flashlight was turned off, resting beside him on the bare granite of Coffin Rock, and involuntarily he strained his eyes in the gray non-light of the false dawn, trying to make out the shapes of the trees, and the mountains across the river. Below, he could hear the chuckling of the water as it crossed the polished stones. How many times had he fished there, his grandfather beside him.

He tried to shrug away the memories, but why else had he come here except to remember. Perhaps to escape the inevitable confrontation with his mother. She would have to be told sooner or later, but Thomas infinitely preferred later.

How could he explain that? The endless arguments. The whispered warnings. The subtle threats. Dennis had told him to expect this. Dennis had lost his parents back in the First Purge back in 2004, and his bitter hatred of the State's iron rule had failed to ruin him only because of his unique and accomplished abilities as an actor. Only with Thomas did he open up. Only with Thomas did he relate the things he had earned while in the Youth Reeducation Camp near Charleston. Thomas shuddered.

It was his own fault, he knew. He should have kept his mouth shut like Dennis told him. All of his friends had come and shook his hand and pounded him on the back. "That's telling them, Adams!" they said. But their voices were hushed and they glanced over their shoulders as they congratulated him. And later, when the "volunteers" of the Green Ribbon Squad kicked his _ _ all over the shower room, they had stood by in nervous silence, their faces turned away, their eyes averted, and their tremulous voices silent.

He sighed. Could he blame them. He'd been afraid too, when the squad walked up and surrounded him, and if he could have taken back those proud words he would have. Anyone is afraid when they can't fight back, he'd discovered. So they taught him a lesson, and he had expected it to end there. But then yesterday had come the call to Dr. Morton's office, and the brief hearing that had ended his career at the university. "Thomas," Morton had intoned, "You owe everything to the State."

Thomas snorted.

The light was growing now. He could see the pale, rain-washed granite in the grayness as if it glowed. Coffin Rock was now a knob, a raised promontory that jutted up from a wide, unbroken arm of the mountain's stony roots, its cover of soil pushed away. There were deep gouges scraped across the surface of the rock where the backhoe had tried, vainly, to force the mountain to reveal its secrets. He was too old to cry now, but Thomas Adams closed his eyes tightly as he relived those moments that had forever changed his life.

The shouts and angry accusations as the agents found no secret arms cache still seemed to ring in his ears. They had threatened him with arrest, and once he had thought the government agent named Goodwin wouId actually strike him. At last, though, they had accepted defeat and turned down the mountain, following the gashed trail of the back-hoe as it rumbled ahead through the woods.

At home, he had found his mother and father standing, ashen faced, in the doorway.

"They took your grandpa," his father said in disbelief. "Just after you left, they put him in a van and took him. "

"But they said they wouldn't!" Thomas had shouted. He ran across the yard to the old man's cottage. The door was standing open and he wandered from room to room calling for the grandfather he would never see alive again.

It was his heart, they said. Two days after they had taken him, someone called and tersely announced that the old man had died at the indigent clinic a few hours after his arrest "Sorry," the faceless voice had muttered. Thomas had wept at the funeral, but it was only in later years that he had come to understand the greatest tragedy of that day-that the old man had died alone, knowing that his own grandson had betrayed him.

That grandson was Thomas Adams, and he was now too old to cry but in the growing light of the cold mountain dawn, he did anyway. Thomas was certain that his father's de-certification six months later was due to the debacle in the forest. As much as anyone did these days, they had "owned" their home, but the Certification Board would still have evicted them except for the intervention of Cousin Lou, who worked for the State Supervisor. As it was, they lost all privileges and, when his father came down with pneumonia the next autumn, medical treatment was denied. He had died three days after the first anniversary of Grandpa's death.

Thomas had been sure that he would be turned down at the University, but once again his cousin had intervened and a slot had "opened" for him. But now that's finished he reflected He would be unable to obtain any certification other than manual laborer. "Why didn't I keep my mouth shut" he asked the morning stillness. In a tree behind him, a mockingbird began to sing its ageless song, and as if in answer, the forest below began to twitter and chirp with the voices of other birds, greeting the new day.

No, what he had said had been the truth and nothing could change that. The State was wrong. It was evil. It was unnatural for men to be slaves of their government, always skulking, always holding their tongues lest they anger The State. But there is no "State," Thomas considered. There are only evil men, holding power over other men. And anyone who speaks out, who dares to challenge that power, is crushed.

If only there was a way to fight back!

Thomas shifted on the stone, hanging his feet off the downhill side. His feet had almost touched the grass that day, but now, although his legs were certainly longer, it was at least ten inches to the scarred rock surface below. As he kicked his heels back and forth, he could almost hear his grandfather speaking to him from long ago...

"One day, America will come to her senses. Our men will need those guns and they'll be ready. We cleaned them and sealed them up good' they'll last for years. Maybe it won't be in your lifetime, Thomas. Maybe one day you'll be sitting here with your son or grandson. Tell him about me, boy. Tell him about the way I said America used to be. "You see the way this stone points." the old man was saying. "You follow that line one hundred feet..." Thomas' heels were suddenly still. For many minutes he did not move, playing those words over and over in his mind. "...Follow that line..."

What hidden place in his brain had concealed those words all of these years. How could the threats have failed to dislodge it. He stood upon shaky legs and climbed down from Coffin Rock. In his mind's eye, he could see the old man pointing and he walked down the hill and through a clinging briar patch, counting off the paces. The round stone did seem solidly buried, but he scratched around near the base and found that the rock ended just an inch or so beneath the surface. "One man with a good bar can lift it," Grandfather had said. Thomas forced his fingers beneath the stone and, with all the strength in his 21-year-old body, he lifted. The stone came up, and he slid it off to one side. Cool air drifted up from the dark opening in the mountain. Thomas looked to the right where the scars of the State's frustration ended, only 15 or 20 feet away. They had been that close.

He squatted and stared into the darkness and then remembered his flashlight. In a moment, he was back with it, probing into the darkness with the yellow beam. There was a small patch of moisture just inside, but then the tunnel climbed upwards toward the ridge. On hands and knees, he entered.

It was uncomfortably close for the first 20 feet or so, then the cavern opened up around him. The men who had built this place, he saw, had taken a natural crevice in the granite rock, sealed it with masses of poured concrete, and then covered it with earth. The main chamber was bigger than the living room of a house, and they had left an opening up near the peak of the vaulted roof where fresh air and a faint, filtered light entered.

Wooden boxes and crates were stacked everywhere on concrete blocks, up off of the floor, stenciled with legends like, RIFLE, CAL. 30 M1, 9MM PARA, M193 BALL, 7.62 x 39MM, and 5.56MM. He pushed between them and crawled to the wall where he found cardboard boxes wrapped with plastic sheeting. They were imprinted with strange names like CCI, OLIN, WW748, BULLSEYE, and RL 550B. He did not know what the crates and boxes contained, and was afraid to break the seals, but near the center of the room he found a plastic-wrapped carton labeled, OPEN THIS FIRST. With his penknife, he slit the heavy plastic wrapping.

It contained books, he saw with some disappointment. But he studied the titles and found that they were manuals on weapons and how to repair them, how to clean them, how to fire them, and ammunition...how to store it, and how to reload it. And here was something unusual - "A History of the United States". He lifted it from the carton and crawled back to the open air. Leaning against a stone, he tore open the heavy vinyl bag that enclosed the book and began to read at random, flipping the pages every few moments. On each page, something new met his eye, contradicting everything he had ever been taught.

Freedom is not won, he learned, by proud words and declarations.

He remembered a quotation taught at the University' "Blood alone moves the wheels of history." An Italian dictator named Mussolini had said that, but now he read of a man named Patrick C Henry who said, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Mao was required reading at the University, too, and he now recalled that this man called a "hero" by The State - had once said, "Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun."

Freedom is never granted, it is won. Won by men who are willing to die, willing to lose everything so that others may have the greatest possession of all: liberty.

Mentally, he began to list those he could trust. Men who had been arrested for speaking out. Women whose husbands had been arrested and never returned. Friends who had been denied certification because of their fathers' military records. The countryside seethed with anger and frustration. These were people who longed to be free, but who had no means to resist... until now.

Thomas laid the book aside and then worked the stone back into position, carefully placing leaves and moss around the base to hide any evidence that it had been disturbed. He tucked the book under his arm and started for home with the rays of the rising sun warming his back. He imagined his grandfather's touch in the heat. A forgiving touch.

A long, hard struggle was coming, and he knew with a certainty that defied explanation that he would not live to see the day America would once again be free. His blood and that of many patriots and tyrants would be spilled, but perhaps America's tree of Liberty would live and flourish again.

There is a long line stretching through the history of this world a line of those who valued freedom more than their lives. Thomas Adams now took his place at the end of that column as he determined that he would have liberty, or death. He would be in good company.

Stoner  posted on  2022-05-29   12:00:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: Stoner (#32) (Edited)

Patrick Henry is my boy, but I couldda sworn that "Tree of Liberty...blood of Patriots and Tyrants" comment has been attributed to VA Governor Henry's successor in the Governor's mansion, one Thomas Jefferson. Can we get a ruling?

Regards...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-05-29 15:24:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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