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Title: The Pentagon Testified Assessing the Ukraine and No One Noticed
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URL Source: https://theconservativetreehouse.co ... ng-ukraine-and-no-one-noticed/
Published: May 14, 2022
Author: Sundance
Post Date: 2022-05-23 22:06:31 by 3-Dee
Keywords: None
Views: 6282
Comments: 42

As we contemplate the massive $40 billion transfer of U.S. taxpayer funds to Ukraine, a few things need to be emphasized.

First, congress has decided to pay the salaries, benefits and pensions of Ukraine political officials and citizens. As U.S. citizens try and figure out how to afford housing, gasoline, food and basic goods, congress has decided to subsidize another country. That’s the first point.

Second, as to the pragmatic question of “to what end?” There was a critical point made last week by Defense Intel Agency (DIA) Director Lt. Gen. Scott Berrier, that not a single media outlet or politician discussed. During his briefing to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Berrier was asked “can Ukraine win” the conflict against Russia?

Lt. General Berrier replied: “That is a difficult predication to make. I think where the assessment is at, is a prolonged stalemate should no factor change on either side. In other words, the Russians continue to do what they’re doing, and we continue to do what we are doing for the Ukranians.” WATCH:

The Pentagon assessment is the best that can be achieved is a stalemate. Billions of billions of dollars being poured into Ukraine, and the most likely outcome is a stalemate. More people killed, an endless need for continued money to be poured into the ‘war’, and the best possible outcome is a stalemate.

So, riddle me this, why isn’t the U.S. policy position advocating for Zelenskyy and Putin to enter negotiations for a resolution?

What possible U.S. interest can be advanced, knowing the only outcome is a stalemate, where people are killed on either side and money spent on a proxy conflict that ends in loggerheads at some distant point months from now?

Also, why has no U.S. media outlet or pundit played the remarks and assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency, so that the American people can understand the intent of U.S. policy?

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#1. To: 3-Dee (#0)

Simple. People are dying on both sides, yes.

The Ukrainians dying are brave, etc., etc. But they are not NATO allies. They HAVE TO fight for their independence. The alternative is to be swept into Russia and crushed. So, they will fight as long as we arm them, for years and years, like the mujahadeen.

On the other side is the enemy, Russia. Russia doesn't HAVE TO be the enemy, but they CHOOSE to be by being atavistic, aggressive fucks. However, as long as the West pours in weaponry, the Russians can't win, and keep getting chewed up. The Russians ae dying at three times the Ukrainian rate. And their heavy equipment is being destroyed.

So, it is a stalemate, yes. But a lengthy stalemate is very good for the United States. Russia had an economy the size of Italy's, but with sanctions and contractions, now it's the size of the Netherlands, and falling further and further. They HAVE TO devote it to the war, because they are ruled by a dictator and don't have the courage to throw him off. So they HAVE TO destroy themselves more and more and more every day. They cannot escape the suicide trap into which they have stuck their own heads. They are too proud and stubborn to admit defeat, so they have to die, and as they die, they deplete their armaments, deplate their army, and wreck their economy.

The longer the war goes on, the more of a shipwreck Russia becomes. Let it go on for a full year, and they will have nothing left, and never be able to get back up again. Russia has been our enemy since 1917, and we have them in a place now where we can cause themselves to snuff themselves out of existence by their own bloated stupidity. We would be mad not to exploit it.

The other thing is China. Big, bad, powerful China. We don't want to fight China in Taiwan, and China looks at Russia and they see themselves imploding too. They already have a first rate economic fire raging, getting into a naval and air war with the West over Taiwan that they can't win, and having trade cut off. The more Russia is destroyed, the less likely China will EVER move on Taiwan, or Japan, or the Philippines, or South Korea.

So, by grinding the Russians into the dirt, we also contain China.

It costs us no blood at all. Just a little money. $40 billion in a $6 trillion budget is two thirds of 1% - a pittance. Especially when compared wirth the US military budget, which is $750 billion.

Wear out Russia the most effective way: by directly destroying their army and troops, and contain China completely, for $40 billion, with no US losses? It's a no-brainer, ESPECIALLY since the whole alliance is together to do it for the first time, well, EVER.

The folks without brains are the ones whining about it. Are you really that blind and dumb? Really? It's incomprehensibly stupid not to see why this is necessary.

In fact, it's SO stupid that to advocate it, people think that you MUST be a Russian sympathizer.

So, which is it? Are you a Russian shill, or just an idiot?

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-05-24   8:47:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

In fact, it's SO stupid that to advocate it, people think that you MUST be a Russian sympathizer.

Unlike you, perhaps, I do not care what people think. You resort to name calling. You are a bully. Not everyone in this country supports Zelensky. Get over it.

3-Dee  posted on  2022-05-24   9:53:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: 3-Dee (#3)

You're a Russian shill. Shill away, it's a free country. Don't expect to find any support, though. What you are saying is obviously garbage.

The US isn't bullying Russia. The Russians invaded Ukraine and are getting their dicks cut off for it. All they need to do is get out of Ukraine. We're not invading Russia. We're never going to invade Russia.

The Russians are out of line. We're just defending Ukraine. Effectively. ANd the Russians, who don't belong there, are dying in droves. And will continue to die in droves until they leave.

Real simple. No amount of arm waving on your part will change any of it.

I'm not a bully. We're not bullies. I don't give a damn what the Russians do in Russia. But cross a border and try to murder another country. We're bigger and stronger and will win.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-05-25   9:25:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

If Russia were making "defense" agreements with Canada, Mexico, Panama, Nicaragua, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Cuba et al. Would America be correct in invading? I think so, and would be treasonous to neglect doing do. You protect your borders, but somehow we don't want borders anymore. If Finland and Sweden join NATO, we will have a real hot WW 3. Not only that, but it will be the our DC tyrants fault, and that can easily be proven true.

jeremiad  posted on  2022-05-25   16:48:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: jeremiad (#16)

Well, Finland and Sweden WILL BE joining NATO, so your fears of World War III will be tested within the next few months.

The difference between a defensive alliance and what Russia is doing is that Russia is attacking and murdering tens of thousands of Ukrainians. The Ukrainians are stopping them, and the West is giving them the weapons to do it, which makes complete sense.

By your analysis, the world ends soon. By mine, Russia loses, gets their asses handed to them, Ukraine stays free, the Chinese are intimidated and do not dare move on Taiwan, and the US enjoys a period of extended peace and prosperity.

Neither one of us is King, so we'll just have to see how things develop. I think I'm going to be pleased and you're not, though I would hope that when I prove to be right, and we're enjoying the peace and prosperity, that you will also be glad for it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-05-27 09:29:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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