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Title: Genesis Chapter 1
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Published: Jan 29, 2022
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Post Date: 2022-01-29 12:13:46 by A K A Stone
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1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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#18. To: watchman (#11)

See? Right there...if you go back to the original transcription and translation, does the word "Chief" automatically translate a MALE. I have read of Native-American tribes wherein "chieftain" Power is conferred upon the wisest old woman, so Chiefs being male is not universal.

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-31   15:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: watchman (#17)

Full-blown Christianity is enriched by further study, and diminished by blind faith, imho.

Interesting debate, though...hope to get to read the thoughts of others...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-31   15:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman (#2)

Genesis is in the Bible just fine. It's just not literally true.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-02-04   11:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: watchman (#5)

In English. The holy spirit is a He in English. In Hebrew, she is a she, always. In Greek, the Holy Spirit is always an "It".

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-02-04   11:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Mudboy Slim (#3) (Edited)

No. Genesis says that God is both male AND female. "In God's image he made them, male and female he made them..." English requires a "he" there, but "he" made them male and female, in his image. The word "Elohiym" in Hebrew - "God(s)" - is a PLURAL noun. The word "Ruach" - wind or spirit in Hebrew - is a feminine noun.

I point this out precisely BECAUSE people try to make a point about God using English. But the Old Testament of the Bible is written in Hebrew, the later portions in Greek. And the New Testament is written in Greek.

"God" in Hebrew is not a "He". It's a "them".

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-02-04   11:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Vicomte13 (#22)

Thank you, my friend...I was hoping you would weigh in. Your explanation buttresses what I was trying to get across. An All-Powerful Deity is far more powerful than our feeble minds could ever appreciate, and to assume God is limited to one sex or the other is small- minded on our parts...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-04   13:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13 (#22)

And God speaks whatever language is required to get his point across...sheeesh!!

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-04   13:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vicomte13 (#22)

In God's image he made them, male and female he made them.

God is Spirit.

To be made in God's image is to be made a spiritual being. Adam and Eve were made in God's spiritual likeness.

The word "Elohiym" in Hebrew - "God(s)" - is a PLURAL noun.

Elohiym is simply the word for "God" or "god" (as when referring to pagan gods).

Elohiym is plural but has to be in grammatical agreement with the verb...ie. is the verb singular.

"God" in Hebrew is not a "He". It's a "them".

Pointing to the Triune nature of God...One God, Three Persons...easy enough to understand.

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

watchman  posted on  2022-02-04   13:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#21)

The holy spirit is a He in English. In Hebrew, she is a she, always. In Greek, the Holy Spirit is always an "It".

Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as "He".

However when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth; for He shall not speak from Himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak; and He will show you things to come. John 16:13

We are to approach God in the masculine.

As to the use of feminine nouns, God is not opposed to refer to Himself using feminine qualities.

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

There is infinite tenderness there. What a Great God we have, Vic.

watchman  posted on  2022-02-04   14:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Vicomte13 (#20)

Genesis is in the Bible just fine. It's just not literally true.

All of Genesis? Just certain parts? Can you give an example?

watchman  posted on  2022-02-04   14:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: watchman (#26)

Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as "He."

So says the dude who first heard it, the dude who first wrote it down, and the dudes who have translated the Word ever since. Doesn't make it untrue, but the innate gender bias should not be ignored when seeking Absolute Truth....MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-04   16:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mudboy Slim (#28)

innate gender bias

If you were "seeking Absolute Truth" you would have found it by now.

Jesus said "ye shall know the truth".

Jesus went on to say of Himself, "I am the Truth"

What more do you need?

watchman  posted on  2022-02-04   17:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: watchman (#29) (Edited)

Once again, I am not questioning JC's gender, just wondering why most peoples and religions assume our All-Powerful Diety is a paternal entity. V13 explained it above better than I can, but imho, our God is greater than the whole Male/Female dichotomy...and my reason for bringing up the issue relates to pointing out the inherent biases of those very real human beings who were tasked with hearing, writing down, and then interpretating what we now accept as the Word of God. If all those people who were recording "The Word" were women, I would bet dollars to donutz that God would be seen as a Maternalistic Being.

Regards...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-05   2:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mudboy Slim (#30)

just wondering why most peoples and religions assume our All-Powerful Deity is a paternal entity.

My best guess would be that God uses gender to establish authority, which in turn establishes order. We see this order through out the Creation.

If all those people who were recording "The Word" were women

This is exactly the methods Satan uses to disrupt the order of the Universe...by putting the female in charge of the male. As if that is not enough, luciferian groups like the Masons inject chaos (the opposite of order) by flipping the genders entirely. Transgenderism = confusion.

From the very beginning Satan worked to disrupt God's order. He creates chaos/confusion and then offers his version of order...which is rebellion toward God.

watchman  posted on  2022-02-05   7:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: watchman (#31)

I don't think posing sincere questions is the work of Satan, my friend...not unlike the RATZ devotion to the altar of EnviroWhackoISM and their politicized "science", if our Faith cannot withstand sincere questioning from newcomers trying to learn more, it wouldn't have lasted 2,000+ years, imho...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-05   8:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mudboy Slim (#32)

I don't think posing sincere questions is the work of Satan, my friend.

if our Faith cannot withstand sincere questioning from newcomers trying to learn more

I wholeheartedly agree.

watchman  posted on  2022-02-05   8:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Vicomte13 (#21)

So God created MAN in his own image, in the image of God created HE HIM; MALE and FEMALE created he them

What are the capitalized words in the original language?

If you know.

A K A Stone  posted on  2022-02-05   8:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: watchman (#33)

We good then...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-05   14:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Mudboy Slim (#35)

We good then

I never knew there was a "we bad"...so yeah, we good.

watchman  posted on  2022-02-05   14:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: watchman (#36)

We were never "bad"...it just felt like you were implying that asking sincere questions about the Holy Bible was just short of heresy, but you cleared that up to my satisfaction, so carry on, mi amigo...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-07   8:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Mudboy Slim (#37)

sincere questions about the Holy Bible

I have a sincere question for you Mud.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Why do we exist?

watchman  posted on  2022-02-08   7:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: watchman, vicomte13 (#38)

Why? Maaan...it is too early in the day and I have a lotta crap to get done today, but I will "circle back" and address that question later. I pinged V13 just because...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-08   8:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: watchman (#38)

Briefly, though...free will and our ability to serve as protagonists in the world around us...the omnipotent Creator didn't make WeThePeople to be couch potatoes and mind- numbed Sheeple watching helplessLEE as the RATZ/RINOZ slowly enact their Marxist MasterPlanz...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-08   8:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: watchman (#38) (Edited)

Why do we exist? What is the purpose of Life?

In short, I would hope to leave my time on God's Creation with the World around me being a little bit better place than when I arrived. As an Architect, I was taught that the Earth is in a constant state of Entropy, so anything I design and build is a scar upon God's Landscape, so it had best be a conscious design purpose and a positive addition. That philosophy applies to whatever one does for a living...make the lives of others better and you will be rewarded accordingLEE.

So, in short, we are here to serve as God's Agents, sent here to make His Creation a Greater America/World...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   5:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Mudboy Slim (#41)

As an Architect,

Well dang, Mud. Now I'm curious...

You describe yourself as an "Architect".

What does that mean? Is it a title within your deist religion?

I was taught that the Earth is in a constant state of Entropy...That philosophy

Is this a School of Philosophy I should be familiar with? Who "taught" you?

watchman  posted on  2022-02-10   7:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: watchman (#42)

LOL...it mean I graduated from the University of Virginia School of Architecture in 1985, and I finally got in my apprenticeship years in, passed the licensing exam first time in 1992 and have been a Registered.Architect ever since. Nothing more...let's not go reading a bunch of Matrix weirdness into my line of work...lol. I am also a Class A Contractor, which makes me a Builder, and since I put ALL my projects together and also have my own Realtor's license, I qualify as a greedy Real Estate Developer as well.

On the plus side, however, I am a Stoner and a Professional Disc Golf player, as well as a Gemini... what's YOUR sign?!

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   10:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: watchman (#42)

Entropy?. Nietzsche, amongst others...to be a genuine optimist, you gotta acknowledge and come to grips with the fact that there are constantly struggles to be overcome in life, and our meager efforts to exert our individual wills to create some semblance of Order--and thereby Peace--can, over time and with the assistance of others of like mind will eventually result in positive change, as WE see it...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   10:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: watchman (#42)

If you agree that there is ONE omnipotent Power in all creation, then you too are a DEIST. The Greeks, Egyptians, and Norsemen, OTOH were Pagans aka Heathens aka Infidels...so we must kill them.

Not really...but sorta really...gypsies, native Americans, indigenous peoples everywhere...

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   10:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: watchman (#42) (Edited)

Almost all the Founding Fathers were DEISTs... and it is less a Religion than a pattern or way of thinking...

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   10:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Mudboy Slim (#44)

I was taught that the Earth is in a constant state of Entropy

Didn't realize they taught Entropy at the University of Virginia School of Architecture...so you can imagine my confusion.

the fact that there are constantly struggles to be overcome in life

Life didn't start out this way as you read in Genesis 1. As you continue to read the Book of Genesis you will find out how the struggle entered into our existence: the fall of man which brought the curse on the whole Universe.

our meager efforts to exert our individual wills to create some semblance of Order-and thereby Peace--

You must come to grips that your efforts have failed and will continue to fail...apart from God Who is Jesus Christ (the God of the Bible).

Nietzsche

With the masonic hidden hand (which I only noticed just now)...

Tells me absolutely everything I need to know about Nietzsche...just another devil worshipper (he worshipped Lucifer as do all masons/fools).

watchman  posted on  2022-02-10   10:48:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: watchman (#47)

I am no fan of the UBER-pessimist, Freidrich Nietzche, devil-worshipper or not...lol!! I know what they teach you in Intro to Philosophy 101 at UVA back in the early-80s, and I have not been making Masonic tribute to him ever since...sheeesh!!

EWE are obsessed with TheDevil, ain't ya, boy?!

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   10:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: watchman (#47)

"your efforts have failed and will continue to fail..."

Says EWE, ya inconsequential MORON...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   10:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mudboy Slim (#46)

Almost all the Founding Fathers were DEISTs

If by Deists, you mean belonging to some dumbass secret society...

watchman  posted on  2022-02-10   11:01:18 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Mudboy Slim (#48)

EWE are obsessed with TheDevil, ain't ya, boy?!

No. But he is the ruler of this fallen world.

Only a fool would ignore Satan's control of people and governments.

watchman  posted on  2022-02-10   11:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Mudboy Slim (#48)

Nietzsche, amongst others...to be a genuine optimist

UBER-pessimist, Freidrich Nietzche,

Is Nietzsche an optimist or pessimist...make up your mind

watchman  posted on  2022-02-10   11:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: watchman (#52)

I said I.am an Optimist, but Nietzchez World was dark and gloomy. I am no expert, but I assume he was an atheist, which might just explain a lot about his EEyore attitude about life...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-10   16:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Mudboy Slim (#53)

I assume he was an atheist

Who doesn't recall this bit of old graffiti?

watchman  posted on  2022-02-10   21:01:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: watchman (#26)

No, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as pneuma,which is always neutral.

In John 14, he refers to the Paraclete, which is a masculine noun, and he uses the masculine pronoun to refer back to the Paraclete - which would be required in Greek.

Jesus never uses a masculine pronoun to refer to the spirit, because spirit is not masculine in Greek.

Of course, Jesus spoke Aramaic, and if you refer to the Aramic Peshitta, the ancient Aramaic text of the Gospels (which contains the words of Jesus in the Aramaic in which he spoke them), he always refers to the Holy Spirit using Ruah, which is a feminine noun in Aramaic, and he always uses a feminine pronoun.

So actually Jesus always referred to the Holy Spirit as a SHE, if one wants to really burrow down. Jesus spoke Aramaic to his people, not Greek. The Gospels are a translation of what he said. The Aramaic Peshitta is what he actuallly said.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-02-11   11:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mudboy Slim (#43) (Edited)

what's YOUR sign?!

I'm a Taurus...which means that I am fixed earth and stubborn as a...well, as a bull. There is no POINT in arguing with me about anything. I'm always right, or think I am, and I will never, ever change my mind.

And I have a Scorpio Moon, full moon, actually, and was born at night. Water, but fixed water. DOUBLY stubborn - there is no more stubborn person than me, really. And smart. But with an apparently evil bent. I don't simply dig in, I start to get really ANGRY when people keep pushing me. And with that Scorpio full there, born at night, I won't just stomp the ground like a bull. I'll do that FIRST. But if you keep pushing me, I will fucking sting you again and again and leave you to DIE.

No point in arguing with me. Just look at what I say, see it as very pure, and understand that if you keep arguing with me past a certain point, I really do want to murder you in your sleep. And what good is THAT?

Pisces Ascendant. Which means that I'm all spiritual and soft sounding. So, stubborn iron and murder, but with a gentle exterior that is deceptive.

And Lilith, the "dark moon", the locus of evil in the chart? It's in Scorpio - a nightmare sign: "Sex and death hold an equal fascination! The transience of life and the constant presence of death in their thoughts make these people keep their senses alert at all times, ready to furiously and disdainfully snatch and raid what they please from life. They don’t believe in luck, and they constantly put it to the test whether through gamble or other vices with life itself as the stake."

In truth, I'm a freaking astrological nightmare.

Now, I don't believe that the stars determine anything. I think they're placeholders. I DO think that the time of the year you're born and the influence of the moon's gravity (which moves the tides 60 feet every day in the Bay of Fundy) DOES affect us, not mysteriously but concretely. But then, I WOULD say that, wouldn't I, being a Taurus, Scorpio moon, Lilith in Scorpio.

Of course I say this knowing that the wankers will whine. There is no innocence here. Whine away, wankers! You make me smile.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-02-11   11:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Vicomte13 (#56)

Whine away, wankers...

My advice to ALL Dem brainwashed Marxist snowflakes...let them bitch!!

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-02-11   15:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Vicomte13 (#55)

The autographs were written in Greek.

Once again, the gender of a noun does not always reflect the gender of a person.

watchman  posted on  2022-02-11   18:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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