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Title: Francis Demonic Plan To Destroy The Church Revealed
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Obss_Gmu8
Published: Dec 6, 2021
Author: Return To Tradition
Post Date: 2021-12-06 06:40:18 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 207
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#1. To: Vicomte13 (#0)

Are you still fooled?

A K A Stone  posted on  2021-12-06   6:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

First, after Vatican II, the hierarchy crammed as many queers into the seminaries as possible, but they threw a bone to the other pedophiles by allowing young girls to serve as acolytes.

They were so busy rearranging the church and its tenets and they busily built new churches that looked like airplane hangars with statues and pictures. The 'homily' by the priest was never on Satan and his imps, but a feel-good message was imparted to make the few segregationists feel good about themselves.

Thanks be to God for Sedevacantism!

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2021-12-06   9:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I read somewhere that the Pope is dying. Hope its true.

I haven't read anything from Vicomte. Does he still post here?

WWG1WWA  posted on  2021-12-08   9:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: WWG1WWA (#3)

I haven't read anything from Vicomte. Does he still post here?

Nope. Maybe he lurks. I enjoyed his commentry. Even when I disagreed.

A K A Stone  posted on  2021-12-09   8:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Ditto

WWG1WWA  posted on  2021-12-09   8:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

The Church bores me.

I'll stipulate: yeah, God exists. I've talked with him several times. He's real. And Jesus is very probably his son, and very probably divine.

None of which has anything to do with the Catholic Church, the Baptist Church, or any other church.

Jesus of Nazareth, called "the Anointed" (the Christ), lived in the first third of the First Century. Jesus himself wrote nothing.

A handful of texts (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, the first Chapter of Acts and Revelation) date from the first century, allege that they contain the words and deeds of Christ. There is nothing else from the First Century.

Some texts exist from the Second Century that also claim to contain what Jesus said and did, but they differ remarkably from the First Century text. The Churches have all rejected these writings as "gnostic". They are all fragmentary anyway.

The churches as we know them emerged in the Fourth Century, after the Roman Empire legalized Christianity and stopped persecuting in. The first church council since the biblical Council of Jerusalem was held in 325 AD at Nicaea, in modern-day Turkey. It decided that God is a Trinity, and that whoever does not accept the Trinity is not a Christian. Prior to Nicaea, Christianity was persecutved and hidden, and there was wide difference of opinion, but at Nicaea the new, legal church came together and the majority at this, and subsequent councils began to throw people out of the Church who did not agree with them.

The central feature of Christianity - the Trinity - was never taught by Jesus. Jesus speaks of God, but when he says God, he means the God the Father, to whom he prays and instructs us to pray. He speaks of the "paraclete", the "comforter", the Holy Spirit; and Revelation speaks of the "Seven Spirits of God". But Jesus never systematizes it at all.

Jesus' God is God the Father, and that is the only person he ever tells people to pray to. The entire complicated and convulted doctrine of the Trinity was made up by Christians after Jesus, and in the form it became official, hundreds of years after Jesus.

Jesus called on Christians, above all, to be united, and during those three hundred years that Christianity was illegal and persecuted, Arians , Trinitiarians, Monophysites, Nestorians, etc., etc. disagreed about many things, but they were all Christians.

In truth, those doctrines were never stated with authority, there WAS no authoritative position of "The Church" before Nicaea, and Arians and Trinitiarians were both Christians.

After Nicaea and similar councils, that was no longer true. "Christian" came to mean Trinitarian.

My quarrel with the Church does not stem from any recent enactment, but goes all the way back to Nicaea.

Jesus prayed for unity, which included Arians and Trinitiarians, until three hundred years after his death when the Church came out of the shadows,and promptly divided itself over the doctrine of the Trinity, which Jesus himself never taught, and which - in its official form - cannot be true unless Jesus was himself lying.

My religion is scrupulously listening to what Jesus said, which means that dividing over this "Trinity" is illegitimate. "Christians" say that the Trinity is THE decisive doctrine, but Jesus never taught it. Therefore, they are wrong. The Church is wrong about it. It's an overwrought and essentially meaningless hypothetical.

Going further back, Paul taught that to be forgiven sin, one had to believe in Jesus as the perfect sacrifice whose blood took away the sins of the world. But Jesus taught that the way to be forgiven sin was to forgive other's their sin against you, then God forgives you. So, Jesus and Paul conflict. I throw out Nicaea, and I throw out Paul for this very reason.

LIkewise, James taught that if you commit any sin, you commit them all, the doctrine of any sin being deadly. But Jesus taught that there are greater and lesser sins. So I throw out James and stick with Jesus.

Jude taught Enoch, a book that says the angels fell, copulated with women, caused the world to fill up with monsters, which God drowned in the flood. ENouch is about purity of bloodlines. JEsus never said a word about any of this. So I reject Jude in favor of Jesus.

John taught there were different grades of sin, venial and mortal, and he taught that there was no salvation for mortal sinners. But Jesus said that all sins would be forgiven if men forgive. So I reject John also, in favor of Jesus, where John and Jesus differ.

Peter...Peter just gave encouragement and didn't teach anything that contradicts Jesus. So, there you have it, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and the letters of Peter are not objectionable. We have to be more circumspect with the Gospel of John and the Revelation of John. The Revelation of John is, admittedly, John having a vision - it may not even be real. And it was written very late. Scholars say it wasn't John the Apostle who wrote it, but who knows. The only interesting parts in it anyway are the parts where Jesus speaks, at the beginning and at the end.

What Jesus says there can be coordinated with what he says in the Synoptic Gospels, so it can be allowed. The Gospel of John works, but the translations are very treacherous, since "divine" is translated as "God", and this has a different meaning to Christians.

All of these things are important. The Churches all went wrong at Nicaea, so the prattling and rage they have about people following their rules, or not, bores me. Jesus is their emblem, but they've mostly replaced what HE said with what THEY have decided is important. I simply reject all that and return to what Jesus said.

This makes me unpopular with Christians. So what? I don't care. Christianity as a religion is in steep decline, and Christians of different denominations scream at each other. In my own experience, lots of Baptists deny that Catholics are even Christians.

This completely fails to impress me. The Baptists are full of shit for various reasons, and so are the Catholics. Is that reason to chuck them completely?

Well, that depends, doesn't it? Each person has to come to his own conclusions. I choose to call myself Catholic and continue to go through the motions, but core Catholic doctrines like the Trinity? Silly. Not what Jesus taught.

My actual RELIGION is what Jesus taught, no more. The rest are just conventions I tolerate and don't bother to argue about within the Church, but when another denomination asserts them, I reject them for those reasons. The Catholic Church is wrong about a lot, but right, at least, about charity. Why would I leave the Catholic Church to go to some less charitable religion that is also wrong about the same things?

Like I said: it all bores me. Earnest, angry, sweaty Christians bore me. They irritate me with their arrogant wrongness.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-01-19   14:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

This makes me unpopular with Christians. So what? I don't care.

Hey Vic it is nice to see you around again. I was actually thinking about you the other day.

I hope you stick around.

I read what you wrote. I don't agree with it all. But that is ok.

You're surely more educated that I. I'll give you that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2022-01-19   14:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)

I was invited for awhile to post over at Plato's Republic on the Discord server. I did for a couple of years, but got bored with the pettiness.

Now I post on a smaller server there, called Diogenes, which has people who left discord. It trends towards NSFW and sexual stuff, which amuses me, but young people seem to be really into gay and trans stuff, which I find completely unsexy and uninteresting.

I don't think anybody is going to burn in Hell over it or anything silly like that, but I don't find men kissing to be exciting, I don't find sexual confusion interesting, and the ass is a one way out door for poop, not a sex organ. The young puzzle me with their fixation on unrewarding sex. And I get bored.

I happened to hit a tab and came up with this site, and decided to post here a little bit - why not? It isn't as though I left in a huff.

As the years have worn on, and I've talked with a lot of earnest young people so full of their ideas and themselves, I've come to realize that I have a very solid, pretty fixed worldview, and I'm unimpressed by ALL of the fanatics.

The anti-vaxxers, for example. Well, I've been vaxxed and boosted, haven't gotten COVID, and if I get it, I won't die. And that's as much as I care about COVID now. I won't die. I don't care if somebody else done. Be an idiot and don't get vaxxed - no skin off MY nose. I don't care if somebody else dies because of his bad choices. The notion that it's all germ warfare, etc., is crazy-kook wingnut country. I don't go there. I don't care if people are there, as long as they don't mind dying of COVID. But don't expect ME to wear a mask to prevent somebody else from getting it. I can't die. I don't care if others do. I'm vaxxed, I've taken off the mask. If you give me COVID, I don't die. If I give you COVID and you're unvaxxed, you might die, and that is completely a you problem, not a me problem. Go die then, I don't care. Just don't ask ME to wear a mask. The answer is no.

IN a similar vein, the last election. Obviously there was fraud, specifically in the mail in ballots. The Democrats used COVID as an excuse to steal an election, and got away with it. Trouble is, their guy is a demented old man, and their ideas are so bad that even Democrats won't get on board, so they are going to be swept out of office in the next election. Good. There's no point in arguing the election fraud with others. Don't care. Just win the next few and change the laws to prevent it from happening again, and we're good. I liked Trumo, but he was not vital.

I like Trump, I like DeSantis. I like Rubio. Run any of them and we're good.

I expect the Democrats will run Hillary, and that it will be a fight to the death. Maybe Trump has to run against her again. I don't know.

What else is there to discuss? I'll go look at the board to see the topics and comment here.

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-01-19   14:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Christians bore me. They irritate me with their arrogant wrongness.

Not back 30 minutes and already you weary me with your heresy.

But very glad to see you're still around, Vic.

And you better buckle your seat belt...we're in the Tribulation.

watchman  posted on  2022-01-19   14:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#7)

You're surely more educated that I.

I thought he was more educated than everyone, but after reading his latest post...I'm not so sure.

watchman  posted on  2022-01-19   14:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Just wanna say, "Welcome back, Vicomte!!". And EWE R O.N.E. wise MFer...

Do NOT be a stranger, my friend...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-19   14:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: watchman (#10)

Ad hominem, buddy...bring the FAX...

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-19   14:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

With all due respect to Catholicism, PUCK the Fope....WeThePeople need a Shepherd to lead US to believe Godz Word...I am with Martin Luther on this one....Fuck the Damned POPE!!

Prepare 4 lightning strike...I will edit this Post if He gets me for that one...MUD33

BTW...nothing but BLUE SKIES here in Richmond, Virginny...Capitol of the ConFEDeracy...and Ground Zero for the upcoming GrandDeVolution of Power Outta the DeeCee Swamp and BACK to the States, Localities, and Individuals, as Prescribed in OUR U.S. Constitution.

MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-19   15:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)

bring the FAX

I have a long list of fax.

Shall I "copy/paste that list to the TO: line".

watchman  posted on  2022-01-19   15:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: watchman (#14)

Do what you gotta do...avoid generalizations, and copy/paste as required to make your point.

And your work MAY be graded...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-19   15:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: watchman, vicomte13, A K A Stone, tankumo, interpretor, Vinny, Fred Mertz, goldilucky, TLBSHOW (#14)

"Truth is the most valuable thing we have -- so let us economize it."
-- Mark Twain

(Compliments of the Linux FortuneBuilderz program.)

Hmmm...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-19   15:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: watchman (#14)

Take your time......

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-19   18:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: watchman, vicomte13 (#14)

Present company excepted, Brevity is the Soul of Wit...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-19   18:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: watchman (#14)

I see. We’re IN the “Tribulation”. Wait, no “Snatching” first? What’s it called when all the righteous get snatched up first? (It’s called “nuts”, but let’s be kind.). The “Rapture”. Yes, that’s it. No Rapture, eh? Straight to the Tribulation. Ok. You’re old, so presumably whenever you die will be the end of the “Tribulation”. For the rest of us, how long is this “Tribulation” supposed to last?

Vicomte13  posted on  2022-01-19   19:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

I see.

You are actually blind as a bat, spiritually speaking.

We’re IN the “Tribulation”.

There is really no other way to keep denying it. The evidence is overwhelming and aligns with Scripture. I do believe we are IN the Great Tribulation.

No Rapture, eh? Straight to the Tribulation. Ok.

The Rapture is Biblical. Apparently, Bible scholars, who have done their best, have mis-timed the Rapture. There are two more points in the Trib timeline for the likelihood of the Rapture to occur: at the mid-point, and, just prior to the final outpouring of God's wrath (near the end of the Trib).

presumably whenever you die will be the end of the “Tribulation”.

Not hardly. I do hope to be outta here before the actual Mark of the Beast.

For the rest of us, how long is this “Tribulation” supposed to last?

Seven years according to the Prophet Daniel.

My religion is scrupulously listening to what Jesus said

Baloney. Jesus Himself taught of the Great Tribulation in Matt 24 and I can see just how scrupulously you are listening to His Words. lol.

You're mocking and scoffing...I am watching and waiting. I long to be with my Creator...you could care less about Jesus, and it shows.

Perhaps you are more suited to reading comments about men kissing.

watchman  posted on  2022-01-19   20:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

The "Tribulation" aka "The Struggle..." is an everlasting, lifelong Quest, don't EWE know, V13?!

Some of U.S. BELIEVE WeThePeople are doing Godz Work as we confront and reject Tyranny whenever it raises it's Marxist DeeCeeRATZ SwampZ multiple heads.

RATZ got NO Defense 4.A Righteous Plan carried out by a NON-self-righteous clan...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-20   6:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#21)

Be like Gandhi and simply REFUSE to put up with the DeeCeeRATZ tyrannical bullshit. RATZ need WeThePeople... WeThePeople do not need PlutocRATZ and BureaucRATZ stealing the bread from our Laborz to empower DemRATZ attempts to ENSLAVE WeThePeople in a Marxist HELL...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2022-01-20   6:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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