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Title: COVID Fraud – Lawyers & Medical Experts start legal proceedings against W.H.O and World Leaders for ‘Crimes against Humanity’
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URL Source: https://clickwooz.wordpress.com/202 ... s-for-crimes-against-humanity/
Published: May 9, 2021
Author: Klark Jouss
Post Date: 2021-05-09 12:59:38 by A K A Stone
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Views: 13956
Comments: 72

A team of over 1,000 lawyers and over 10,000 medical experts led by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich have begun legal proceedings against the CDC, WHO & the Davos Group for crimes against humanity.

Fuellmich and his team present the faulty PCR test and the order for doctors to label any comorbidity death as a Covid death as fraud. The PCR test was never designed to detect pathogens and is 100% faulty at 35 cycles. All the PCR tests overseen by the CDC are set at 37 to 45 cycles. The CDC admits that any tests over 28 cycles are not admissible for a positive reliable result. This alone invalidates over 90% of the alleged covid cases / ”infections” tracked by the use of this faulty test.

In addition to the flawed tests and fraudulent death certificates, the “experimental” vaccine itself is in violation of Article 32 of the Geneva Convention. Under Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV, “mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment of a protected person” are prohibited. According to Article 147, conducting biological experiments on protected persons is a grave breach of the Convention.

The “experimental” vaccine is in violation of all 10 of the Nuremberg Codes which carry the death penalty for those who seek to violate these International Laws.

The “vaccine” fails to meet the following five requirements to be considered a vaccine and is by definition a medical “experiment” and trial:

Provides immunity to the virus This is a “leaky” gene therapy that does not provide immunity to Covid and claims to reduce symptoms yet double-vaccinated are now 60% of the patients requiring ER or ICU with covid infections.

Protects recipients from getting the virus This gene-therapy does not provide immunity and double-vaccinated can still catch and spread the virus.

Reduces deaths from the virus infection This gene-therapy does not reduce deaths from the infection. Double- Vaccinated infected with Covid have also died.

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#8. To: A K A Stone, Tankumo, WWG1WWA, goldilucky, and Everyone (#0)

We Call Out Reiner Fuellmich as a Fraud. The Covid Conspirator Investigated.

Why would an attorney decide to take on the WHO organization over Covid?

Reiner Fuellmich is engaged in playing a very dangerous game of cat and mouse with what is essentially most of the world. He believes or alledges to believe, that Covid and the coronavirus have been blown out of all proportion, that the WHO is complicit in not warning everyone, then causing global panic, and that everyone else, possibly even your mum, is complicit in a global conspiracy involving Covid.

His latest trending conspiracy tirade is apparently drawn from a very obtuse and mysterious organization he has dubbed the German Corona Investigative Committee. comprising himself and other unnamed members. The document he has produced is an epic 12 pager, a War and Peace sized missive, the nature, and composition of which, would almost certainly have turned Tolkien green with envy. You can view the document here.

At its root, the document is this, nothing more, nothing less. A cleverly constructed fabrication of wishful thinking, clever turns of phrase, and willful manipulation and misinterpretation of the facts to arrive at a conclusion that is so far removed from reality as to give concern for the author’s sanity.

Fact-Checking Fuellmich’s Fairy Tale

We deal on a regular basis with the fringe of healthcare, the kooks and quacks selling their own brand of self-appointed health poisons and potions. There is a certain predictability about the channels these individuals use to amplify their brand of crazy and Fuellmich is no different. It’s the first flag we look for and it usually signals an idea or opinion that is so far removed from reality that no one else dares touch it.

Conspiracy websites and the alt-health sector adopt these individuals as their own, which is helpful, as they singlehandedly do more to discredit them than any other source. Play with the nutters and you give up your seta at the sane table for good.

Let’s look at a few of the statements Fuellmich makes and then later we’ll take a closer look at the man. We’ve cherry-picked bits, so don’t worry, your eyes aren’t going to bleed from sustained exposure to bullshit. Rather than picking apart his entire tale, we’d like to show you how he has crafted his fiction and the tools he relies on to appear convincing and authoritative.

His small statements are made without a shred of supporting evidence, but they are made in a matter-of-fact way that suggests to the reader they ought to know these “facts”. Here is an example and we’ve highlighted parts of the text for emphasis.

Now let’s take a look at the current actual situation regarding the virus’s danger, the complete uselessness of PCR tests for the detection of infections, and the lockdowns based on non-existent infections.

His use of the word “actual” indicates your perception of reality has been flawed and he is about to set you straight. PCR testing is trashed without a shred of supporting evidence and next, he suggests there aren’t any infections. Hey folks, people haven’t been dying, not from Covid anyway.

These statements on their own don’t look dramatic and we are therefore inclined not to seek validation for them, but they begin to paint a picture in the reader’s mind and thus lend credibility to the rest of the narrative. The author uses this tactic remorselessly throughout, building on it as he progresses. Small lies and falsehoods, interspersed with facts to lend credence.

The whole article is a crock of horseshit as anyone intimately involved with the pandemic for the last 12 months can attest to. Ask someone who has been seriously ill with Covid if they think it’s regular flu.

We have a skilled and unscrupulous lawyer in Fuellmich who is painting a picture to the jury (us) of something he wants to sell us. We’ll examine possible motives for his sales pitch at the end of the article.

A word of clarification: in Bergamo, the vast majority of deaths, 94% to be exact, turned out to be the result not of Covid-19, but rather the consequence of the government deciding to transfer sick patients, sick with probably the cold or seasonal flu, from hospitals to nursing homes in order to make room at the hospitals for all the Covid patients, who ultimately never arrived.

An amazingly exact figure (94%) and very confusing considering the ample evidence that now exists to support the fact that most Italian areas, and Bergamo was no exception, were underreporting Covid deaths. Don’t take my word for it, here is conclusive proof. Also, given the 228% (you’re not the only one that can do it mate) increase in deaths compared to 2019, I think Italians could safely assume they weren’t dealing with influenza.

Fuellmich may want to avoid booking a holiday on Lake Como. Accusing the Italians of murdering their own people may not be the best way to ensure a harmonious EU brotherhood. In his defense though, he has set about trying to piss off everyone equally. Literally, no one is spared in his 12-page tantrum. This next exert is my favorite.

However, as autopsies have shown, which were carried out in Germany in particular, by the forensic scientist Professor Klaus Püschel in Hamburg, the fatalities he examined had almost all been caused by serious pre-existing conditions, and almost all of the people who had died had died at the very at a very old age, just like in Italy, meaning they had lived beyond their average life expectancy.

So exactly how many bodies did the good Professor Püschel hack up for his research? You see if we choose to believe Fuellmich then there wouldn’t, according to his view of events, have been that many bodies. Hardly enough to form a solid opinion from anyway, so Fuellmich has, without realizing it, just locked his tale in with Schroedinger’s cat. Fuellmich’s Paranoia Puzzle.

Let’s revert back to the real world and the totally ridiculous conclusion he draws. Influenza doesn’t kill people, it’s the infections that get you, Even someone as lacking in medical knowledge as Fuellmich appears to be, would know this. Covid is no different. Show me a person who has died of Covid and I’ll show you Elvis’s latest concert itinerary.

Lungs collapse or simply gum up, fatal blood clots form, hearts stop and the list goes on. That’s what kills you. Covid was simply driving the car. The older you are the more likely you are to suffer from some or other dodgy organ, stuff stops working and wears out. I’d also be interested to know why Professor Püschel didn’t investigate younger fatalities? Did he. and Fuellmich just conveniently avoids mentioning them, or did the Professor have an agenda, much like Fuellmich?

The last extract is simply to show you the depths to which this waste of flesh is willing to stoop in order to further his cause.

there are numerous credible reports that doctors and hospitals worldwide had been paid money for declaring a deceased person a victim of Covid-19 rather than writing down the true cause of death on the death certificate, for example a heart attack or a gunshot wound

See those highlighted words? He’s at it again. Where are these “numerous credible” reports you’re referring to Mr. Fuellmich. Please produce them. Otherwise, it is my sincere hope that while on holiday at Lake Como. you take ill, and that your attending Italian surgeon is intimately familiar with your article. Best of luck.

Not satisfied with merely insulting the memories of those who have lost their lives to Covid, Fuellmich reaches out to the doctors and healthcare providers as well, accusing them of falsifying death reports. The man is truly a piece of work.

What motivates Fuellmich?

That’s a difficult question to answer. His rise to infamy really began in 2020, and one crazy covid related headline after the next has kept him in the alternate media eye since then. This latest effort will almost undoubtedly not be his last. It may simply be that he craves the spotlight and notoriety and enjoys the media attention.

Weird we know, but sometimes the simplest explanations are the ones we miss and nothing in the alternate universe that Fuellmich occupies smacks of normalcy. Perhaps in recognition of the danger he poses, most mainstream media have avoided amplifying his rubbish and generally shun him. As stated earlier, he survives off the charity of conspiracy websites and alternate health platforms, without whom he would just be another conspiracy nutcase pissing into the wind.

What is at once apparent is that the Department of Justice and FDA will have renewed interest in Herr Fuellmich and if they don’t, we can assure you we intend to make them painfully aware of him. His efforts to spread misinformation on the virus and create a climate of distrust in the public mind compromises public health and the healthcare industry.

https://medika.life/we-call-out-reiner- fuellmich-as-a-fraud-the-covid-conspirator-investigated/

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-15   21:25:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin (#8)

Lungs collapse or simply gum up, fatal blood clots form, hearts stop and the list goes on. That’s what kills you.

That would be the mRNA vaccine killing you, not imaginary covid.

A word of clarification: in Bergamo, the vast majority of deaths, 94% to be exact, turned out to be the result not of Covid-19, but rather the consequence of the...

...doctors and nurses practicing their tiktok dance moves.

watchman  posted on  2021-05-15   23:40:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: watchman, A K A Stone, Tankumo, WWG1WWA, goldilucky, and Everyone (#10) (Edited)

Lungs collapse or simply gum up, fatal blood clots form, hearts stop and the list goes on. That’s what kills you.

That would be the mRNA vaccine killing you, not imaginary covid.

You are taking a quote out of context – sometimes referred to as contextomy or quote mining.

This is an informal fallacy in which you have removed a passage from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.

In other words: YOU ARE LYING AGAIN – “Christian.”

Your shameless lying continued with:

...doctors and nurses practicing their tiktok dance moves.

An important word of clarification: This in NOT a video of “doctors and nurses practicing their tiktok dance moves.

This is a video of dancing nurses that went viral in celebration of recovered COVID-19 patients.

A lot has changed since the COVID-19 pandemic began, but the spirit and perseverance of nurses are still the same. In fact, many viral social media posts show that it is stronger than ever!

The strength of nurses in the face of adversity is on clear display in videos where nurses are shown celebrating the big wins and handling stress in their fight against COVID-19.

“Today was a win for the good guys against COVID-19! Five people came off ventilators in our unit today during the day shift! One was the second person intubated on our unit when this all began. Beautiful day. Days like this are what makes it worth risking my life for yours.” - Charlotte Hedlund, ICU nurse from Los Angeles exclaimed on Instagram.

Nurses are going viral as they spread positivity through song and dance in their daily fight against the virus.

They have been dancing when a patient finally comes off a ventilator, breaking into song when COVID-19 patients are discharged, or TikToking in scrubs to boost positivity on the hospital floors. As a result, they are inspiring viewers all around the world.

Click here for a few examples of hard-working nurses fighting COVID-19 with a great attitude and a contagious sense of humor. (Spoiler: they may also make you happy cry) #SupportHealthCareHeroes

You really need to stop with your lies – “Christian.”

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-16   3:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#11)

watchman  posted on  2021-05-16   7:27:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: watchman, and Everyone (#16) (Edited)

BC man shares blood clot story on social media

Ah Ha.

One bit of anecdotal evidence.

You are presenting a simple claim on social media relying only on personal observation, collected in a casual or non-systematic manner which is generally regarded as limited in value.

Anecdotal evidence has a number of potential weaknesses when compared to other types of evidence.

Anecdotal evidence is troublesome in larger chance that it may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.

Psychologists have found that due to their cognitive bias, some people will likely seek out unusual examples rather than typical examples. Even when accurate, anecdotal evidence is not necessarily representative of a typical experience.

Misuse of anecdotal evidence is an informal fallacy and is sometimes referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc.) which places undue weight on experiences which may not be typical.

You can view a table here that shows how statistical and scientific methodology are opposites of anecdotal evidence.

Carefully consider this: On average, 274 people die every day from blood clots while there are ONLY 28 blood clot cases reported from the COVID-19 vaccine – With 3 deaths may be linked to J&J . More than 146 million people have now received at least one dose of vaccine, and more than 103 million people have been fully vaccinated.

And you show such great concern about a single anecdotal evidence – because that is ALL you have.

Such FALSE concern – Pffft.

Get fucking real …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-16   10:55:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#17)

More than 146 million people have now received at least one dose of vaccine, and more than 103 million people have been fully vaccinated.

Real poison for a fake pandemic.

These vaccines are made by the "pharmaceutical" industry.

The Greek word pharmakeia means "medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):--sorcery, witchcraft".

You're here to advance a globaalist agenda: sickness, depopulation, destruction. You work unknowingly (or knowingly?) for Apollyon.

In the end, you will lose.

watchman  posted on  2021-05-16   21:54:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman, and Everyone (#19) (Edited)

More than 146 million people have now received at least one dose of vaccine, and more than 103 million people have been fully vaccinated.

Yes.

Verified truth as opposed to interpretation.

Real poison for a fake pandemic.

You call the vaccine a poison.

MPoison is a substance that is capable of causing the death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed. Yet you cannot provide proof in one single incident where a person has died from the vaccination.

You call the pandemic a fake pandemic.

A pandemic is defined as the prevalent of a disease over a whole country or the world. You continue to call COVID-19 a fake pandemic while Authorities in 219 countries and territories have reported here about 162.8 million Covid‑19 cases and 3.4 million deaths since China reported its first cases to the World Health Organization (WHO) in December 2019. Amazingly, your illusion of truth effect is wrongly perceived or interpreted and it will not let facts change your mind. Why is that?

Your illusory truth effect – also known as the illusion of truth effect, validity effect, truth effect, or the reiteration effect – tendency to continually believe false information to be correct after repeated exposure defies scientific methodology. The scientific method is a rational, logical thought process that is used to figure out facts and truths. All of the answers must be able to be proved. You have failed to prove anything you have said.

These vaccines are made by the "pharmaceutical" industry …

… and approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

You left that that out, so I added it for you.

The Greek word pharmakeia means "medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):--sorcery, witchcraft".

You are correct. The Greek word pharmakeia is used in Galatians 5:19.

The word is a fairly general one. My Greek dictionary defines it as: “witchcraft, magic, the use of spells and potions of magic, often involving drugs–a magic spell. It is a fact that witchcraft and magic in the Greek world often involved the use of drugs–either by the witch or the one on whom the magic is worked. I have heard the same thing taught that you quote. It is not absolutely false, but it is not good use of the Greek. Probably, whoever gave you this bogus definition also told you that we get the word pharmacy from this Greek root word. That, of course, is true, but this does not mean that the meaning of the word has not changed! Put it this way, if one were to use and administer drugs for the sole purpose of creating a mind-altered state, then one could probably be judged to have violated the commandment not to be involved in pharmakiea. Probably whoever told you this got the definition second hand and did not bother to look up the Greek. I see this as an attempt to make the stricture in Galatians 5:19 practical for a modern, particularly an American crowd. This is a good thing to do, but in making the scripture practical, we should always begin with good exegesis. If you lived in parts of Africa, the definition given above would apply in all its meanings. I have visited churches in third world countries where the sin of magic spells and relying on witch doctors is very much prevelant; even among Christians. [Source].

My question to you is why are you relying on a mid 17th century origin via late Latin from Greek for anything when modern day definitions show that:

Pharmaceuticals are drug-containing products in dosage forms. A pharmaceutical is a chemical substance which is used in healthcare.

There is nothing in the English definition that pertains to – as you say:

(by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):--sorcery, witchcraft"

You say to me:

You're here to advance a globaalist agenda: sickness, depopulation, destruction. You work unknowingly (or knowingly?) for Apollyon.

I say to you that is incorrect.

I am here to help you gain factual knowledge so that you can understand why information is important and useful. With the hope that your curiosity will finally be piqued, and appropriately challenge you to perceive relevance of the content in order that you will be willing to exert more effort and will perform better as a result. From an important perspective, these dimensions are among the most strongly correlated with effective learning.

In the end, you will lose.

Nah.

Truth always wins agains lies and here is why:

Lies can grow and grow and appear to be truth in a twisted sort of way, but a lie can never be the truth. And it doesn’t matter who believes the lies because you know the truth of what you lived and that truth will always be reality no matter how many lies try to distort it or how many choose to believe it.

I will never stop speaking the truth and I will always keep clinging to the real Truth – because in the end, truth always continues to stand the test of time. A person that lies is always eventually revealed.

I shall continue to reveal you and everyone who thinks like you …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-17   2:29:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Gatlin (#20)

I will never stop speaking the truth and I will always keep clinging to the real Truth

How can you cling to the truth or even know the truth until you know Christ?

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life..."

If Jesus is THE truth, and you don't know Him (and you don't), how can you be so sure that you have the "real" truth in other areas of knowledge and understanding?

watchman  posted on  2021-05-17   18:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: watchman, and Everyone (#24)

How can you cling to the truth or even know the truth until you know Christ?

How do I know truth?

Presenting this question to me as a deep philosophical puzzle is suitable for you to ask someone so “brainy” to tackle. The answer is simple. Truth is what corresponds to reality. Consequently, what is real is true, what is unreal is false.

You constantly reference the Bible in that it makes some very distinctive truth claims. These claims the Bible makes either correspond to reality or they do not. You believe that they do correspond to reality.

Explain how you really know this.

That’s an excellent question since so much is at stake in the Christian faith in terms of the truthfulness of Scripture. The Bible is primary source for Christians on information about Jesus and about all of those things Christians embrace as elements of their faith.

Explain why you are persuaded that the Bible is the truth?

I will then ask a broader question and that is: How do you know that anything is true?

I am asking you a a technical question in epistemology. How do you test claims of truth? Is there a certain kind of truth that you test through observation, experimentation, eyewitness, examination, and scientific evidence – or, what do you use?

On second thought, do you test the claims of truth through the test of rationality? Is it logically consistent, or does it smack with inconsistency?

If you use the Bible, how do you determine the content of Scripture to see if is coherent?

One of the most astonishing things, of course, is that the Bible has literally thousands of testable historical prophecies, cases and stories where almost countless events were foretold. Do you merely search among those literally thousands of stories until you find one that supports your belief and then declare: Ah Ha – Here is Truth.

I hold no doubt that you do this – Cherry pick the verses that you like in order to support an idea or point that you are trying to make, while ignoring other verses that you don’t like, or don’t agree with.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-17   21:33:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#25)

Explain why you are persuaded that the Bible is the truth?

I will then ask a broader question and that is: How do you know that anything is true?

Well, I'll try to be brief...

First, there has to be some absolute truth in the universe somewhere. So we begin there.

1. Christ says He is the truth.

2. Then Christ says that the Word of God is truth.

3. Finally, He says His Spirit (Whom He calls the Spirit of Truth) will lead His people into All truth. ALL truth!

However when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth...John16:13

This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words...1cor2:13

Which naturally leads me to your second excellent question:

On second thought, do you test the claims of truth...

This really touches on the failure of the Church today. You can easily see this failure, and it derives from this very question you asked.

Test all things; hold fast what is good...1thes5:21

Test ALL things! All things! Prove everything.

The Church is very good at testing Scripture. And we Christians do test scripture. Just go to any good Bible school and teenagers will be there hammering away at any questionable text, any weakness (because that's what teens do best). And the prof had better be on his game or he'll be eaten alive.

However. However! The Church fails miserably at testing and proving everything else...day-to-day stuff. Stuff in the news. Stuff politicians say. Events that happen...on and on. This has been the sad case of the Church for the past 125 years minimum. Especially as soon as we got "rich", toward the end of the 19th century. This failure is why we have no salt and light to offer the world today, and are being "trampled underfoot by men".

To sum it up: we have an example of truth (Christ), Who guides us by His Word and His Spirit to (eventually) all truth. It's really part of a relationship we have with God, as we are told to know and love the truth.

I could go on, get long winded, but will spare you that for now.

watchman  posted on  2021-05-18   7:22:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: watchman, and Everybody (#26)

Well, I'll try to be brief...

I don’t care if your are brief or not – I want you to be factually correct.

Christ says He is the truth.

Let’s STOP right here before we go any further.

I need you to tell me how you know “Christ says that?”

Then we shall proceed …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-18   8:03:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin (#27)

I need you to tell me how you know “Christ says that?”

His claim of being 'the truth' is recorded in the Bible.

So, in a broader sense you are inquiring "did Christ really say that"? and "can the Bible be trusted to be accurate and trustworthy, especially in regard to Who Christ claims to be"?

This is where systematic theology comes in handy. Systematic theology systematically lays out the proof needed to make an airtight case that would verify that Christ is Who He says He is, and that His Words were accurately recorded, for example, by multiple witnesses.

Even before His arrival, prophets (under the penalty of death) began to foretell of Immanuel (God with us). The prophets got very specific.

Then, while He was here, multitudes both friend and foe acknowledged what He said and did, including historians like Josephus.

And after He left, His Spirit fell upon humans to confirm the truth of His Words.

One translation says it this way:

And so we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.

Now, on a personal level most people start to believe what Jesus said on a more visceral level. They are usually the ones weighted down by the cares of this life, wondering what this life is all about. Why am I here? Why am I dying? Why?

Systematic theology is not going to work for these folks. They are looking for something, some truth to believe in. All this to say, that they find ONE thing in the Bible they can accept as truth, that being: they are sinful. This is the one truth that every single person can acknowledge. And it's in the Bible. So they begin to have that connection with the Bible. They can trust the Bible on that, if nothing else. And then they begin to look at the other truths to see if they can agree on those as well.

So you can take your pick. You can trust that Jesus says He is the truth based on sound theology confirmed over thousands of years, or, you can find that one truth in Scripture that you cannot deny, and start from there.

This is how I know that Christ's claim of being the truth is in fact credible and trustworthy.

watchman  posted on  2021-05-18   9:32:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: watchman, and Everyone (#29) (Edited)

Now, on a personal level most people start to believe what Jesus said on a more visceral level.

I believe there are SOME people who do this.

Have you seen studies where MOST people do this?

They are usually the ones weighted down by the cares of this life, wondering what this life is all about. Why am I here? Why am I dying? Why?

I can understand this does happen at times.

Systematic theology is not going to work for these folks.

They are looking for something, some truth to believe in.

Ah Ha …

In that statement, you have now publicly declared that:

Most folks looking to the Bible for truth to believe in will not find that truth in systematic theology.

That is exactly what you said.

And on this, we are in complete agreement …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-19   8:17:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin (#41)

Ah Ha …

In that statement, you have now publicly declared that:

Most folks looking to the Bible for truth to believe in will not find that truth in systematic theology. That is exactly what you said.

And on this, we are in complete agreement …

Let me be clear regarding theology for the unbeliever who is hurting and seeking: a theology textbook is not going to be the first thing they find.

They will pick up a Bible and find a connection, or a Christian will tell them about the grace of God toward sinners. This will be the beginning of their salvation.

But, Gatlin, there are 1000's upon 1000's of people who come to know Christ through a college class on systematic theology. Most are young people who grew up in church hearing the gospel every Sunday. But when they get away to college, begin to think for themselves, that deep study of God finally reaches their mind and spirit.

Theology profs are greatly remembered by students for their dry, keen wit. They are the intellectual giants who keep the doctrinal positions of the church fresh in the minds of God's people.

watchman  posted on  2021-05-19   8:55:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: watchman, and Everyone (#42) (Edited)

Let me be clear regarding theology for the unbeliever who is hurting and seeking: a theology textbook is not going to be the first thing they find.

Let me be perfectly clear to someone who is trying to impose his views on others and say that of course a theology textbook is not going to be the first thing a person seeking the truth finds.

I would never have thought that to be the case.

They will pick up a Bible and find a connection, or a Christian will tell them about the grace of God toward sinners. This will be the beginning of their salvation.

Possibly …

But, Gatlin, there are 1000's upon 1000's of people who come to know Christ through a college class on systematic theology.

Show studies to support your claim. What you say is just bullshit in an attempt to support your position. If you Look – you will find those attending a college class on systematic theology are in Christian liberal arts colleges which offer broad-based studies in arts and humanities from a faith-based perspective and have already come to know Christ – So that is the reason they are there in the first place.

They do NOT …

… come to know Christ through a college class on systematic theology.

You make no sense whey you say:

Most are young people who grew up in church hearing the gospel every Sunday. But when they get away to college, begin to think for themselves, that deep study of God finally reaches their mind and spirit.

First of all – You need to definitely stop using the word “MOST” unless you can document the numbers. And so far, you never have been able to.

You are saying the young people who grew up in church hearing the gospel ever Sunday were not able to think for themselves until they get away to college.

I ask that you please let me know how you have factually determined this to be true.

What research have you done – or studies have your rear that supports your thesis?

I am calling you out again – watchman – you are just making up bullshit as you go along.

Theology profs are greatly remembered by students for their dry, keen wit. They are the intellectual giants who keep the doctrinal positions of the church fresh in the minds of God's people.

You don’t KNOW this. It is just something you made up and set in your mind to believe.

If this were true – then you would have supporting documentation.

You are on a mission to make everyone think like you do – You are being overbearing about it. Your problem has been around for a while.

As Mahatma Gandhi famously (and sadly) said:

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

Unfortunately, he’s not alone – Read:

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace.

In Pew Research Center telephone surveys conducted in 2018 and 2019, 65% of American adults describe themselves as Christians when asked about their religion, down 12 percentage points over the past decade.

Meanwhile, the religiously unaffiliated share of the population, consisting of people who describe their religious identity as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular,” now stands at 26%, up from 17% in 2009.

Your outlook and methodology is doing nothing to support Christianity..

Try something different …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-19   11:12:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin (#43)

If you Look – you will find those attending a college class on systematic theology are in Christian liberal arts colleges which offer broad-based studies in arts and humanities from a faith-based perspective and have already come to know Christ – So that is the reason they are there in the first place.

Shooting your mouth off about stuff you know nothing about...as usual.

Did you not know that there are one year Bible schools through out the u.s., and over seas? These schools teach the Bible only, and the overwhelming majority of the students are teenagers just out of high school. Parents send their kids to one year Bible schools to prepare them for college. Christian colleges will transfer credits from affiliated Bible schools. These Bible schools have very strict rules, some more than others.

Most of the teens really want to be there...but some of them, well, not so much. Parents will often force their teens to attend Bible school because the teen has issues with authority, etc.

These Bible schools function like boot camp, while exposing students to some of the greatest guest lecturers/theologians/Bible teachers of our day.

have already come to know Christ

It might come as a surprise to you but just because the parents are Christians, that doesn't mean that their kids will be. And, as the late Christian singer Keith Green once said, "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger".

Bible schools convert many of those kids who were just faking it to please Mom and Dad. Happens all the time.

But go ahead and pontificate...about theology, Bible schools, whatever...your foolishness always puts a smile on my face.

watchman  posted on  2021-05-19   14:10:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: watchman, and Everyone (#45) (Edited)

Shooting your mouth off about stuff you know nothing about...as usual.

So you say, in hopeless despair – While you can say nothing to disprove qny of the points I have made.

Did you not know that there are one year Bible schools through out the u.s., and over seas? These schools teach the Bible only …

And their courses are based on faithful exposition of the Scriptures where they dig both wide and deep into God’s word to strike a balance between Old and New Testaments, and also cover practical topics about the Church and Christian life.

Now show me where they all have courses in systematic theology – since you feel it is such a an important subject and this is what we are currently discussing.

Can you?

The overwhelming majority of the students are teenagers just out of high school. Parents send their kids to one year Bible schools to prepare them for college. Christian colleges will transfer credits from affiliated Bible schools. These Bible schools have very strict rules, some more than others.

Most of the teens really want to be there...but some of them, well, not so much. Parents will often force their teens to attend Bible school because the teen has issues with authority, etc.

These Bible schools function like boot camp, while exposing students to some of the greatest guest lecturers/theologians/Bible teachers of our day.

This is a noble and admirable effort.

It might come as a surprise to you but just because the parents are Christians, that doesn't mean that their kids will be.< i>

No, that comes as NO surprise to me at all.

In fact, there is very little in life that ever surprises me.

And, as the late Christian singer Keith Green once said, "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger".

Cute …

And to that, I will add that you may call yourself a “Christian” – But if you check your Bible, you will find that Jesus wasn’t a snob who judged people for their imperfections like you consistently do. Check on that …

Bible schools convert many of those kids who were just faking it to please Mom and Dad. Happens all the time.

Again – I say this is a noble and admirable effort.

But you still haven’t said what this has to do with systematic theology – the subject we are currently discussing.

But go ahead and pontificate...about theology, Bible schools, whatever ...

Oh, I will do that. And I don’t need to approval or permission to do so.

… your foolishness always puts a smile on my face.

No surprise about that – For I have no doubt that you then tilt your head downward and shift your gaze to the left while touching you face often.

An oft-quoted 1995 study found that a smile provoked by embarrassment is often accompanied by a downward tilt of the head and a shifting of the gaze to the left. If you're embarrassed, you'll probably touch your face more often, too. A 2009 study on embarrassed smiles did confirm the head movements.

Yep – I can definitely understand why you smile.

Keep on with your smiles of embarassment …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-19   15:20:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Gatlin (#46)

And their courses are based on faithful exposition of the Scriptures where they dig both wide and deep into God’s word to strike a balance between Old and New Testaments, and also cover practical topics about the Church and Christian life.

Well, now. Looks like I'm making some progress. Well said.

you will find that Jesus wasn’t a snob who judged people for their imperfections like you consistently do. Check on that …

Show me where I consistently do this.

But you still haven’t said what this has to do with systematic theology – the subject we are currently discussing.

We aren't really discussing systematic theology...it's mostly just you obsessing over it.

tilt your head downward and shift your gaze to the left while touching you face often.

I have no idea what this means.

Keep on with your smiles of embarassment …

I am embarrassed. But I am embarrassed for you. You're obviously a quick minded person, gifted with intellect. Except. Except, Gatlin Who-ever-you-are, you have failed to use your intellect for your own good, to contemplate the very nature of your existence and of your Creator. Rather, you use your mind and talents to post nonsense about Covid 19, as if you work for the fools in high places who delight in poking and prodding humanity with poisons, hoaxes, and other assorted evils. Seems beneath you.

With all your intellect, you turn away from God. I fear that this passage of Scripture applies to you...

For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.” Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not know Him

God has frustrated your intelligence...He's got you doing the bidding of fools. By your own intellect, you've chosen unwisely.

watchman  posted on  2021-05-19   17:30:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: watchman, and Everyone (#47)

And their courses are based on faithful exposition of the Scriptures where they dig both wide and deep into God’s word to strike a balance between Old and New Testaments, and also cover practical topics about the Church and Christian life.

Well, now. Looks like I'm making some progress. Well said.

How can you call that YOUR progress when all I am doing is showing you’re the content of their courses and that it contains no systematic theology course.

Read the part again where I asked you to:

Now show me where they all have courses in systematic theology – since you feel it is such a an important subject and this is what we are currently discussing.

Your self-flattery praise and exaggeration when wrongly thinking of your achievement is at the expense of your denial and the glossing over of your faults and failings.

But if you have a craving need for self-congratulation – Then revel in it and enjoy yourself in a lively and noisy way.

Make a joyful noise unto the Lord,
All ye, all ye lands.
Serve the Lord, the Lord with gladness:
Come before His presence with singing.…

The full lyrics and a video is here

you will find that Jesus wasn’t a snob who judged people for their imperfections like you consistently do. Check on that …

Show me where I consistently do this.

Easily done – Start here at the top and read all the way down to the bottom – On every page.

We aren't really discussing systematic theology...it's mostly just you obsessing over it.

And you were responding.

So – What in the Hell do you calssify as “DISCUSSING?”

tilt your head downward and shift your gaze to the left while touching you face often.

I have no idea what this means.

Which validates what you told me here when you said:

Not that I read all the tripe you post

If you want “an idea” of what something means – The start reading entire posts for comprehension.

Otherwise – Just keep on making an ass out of yourself through neglect.

Keep on with your smiles of embarassment …

I am embarrassed. But I am embarrassed for you.

Misplaced – Yet another waste in your life.

You're obviously a quick minded person, gifted with intellect.

I know – but thank you – others have told me the same thing any number of times.

Except. Except, Gatlin Who-ever-you-are, you have failed to use your intellect for your own good, to contemplate the very nature of your existence and of your Creator.

You asked me earlier in your post to show you where you consistently judged people for their imperfections.

I should have waited until I read down to this point in your post and I would not have needed to waste time furnishing you the link above.

You are doing it AGAIN …

Rather, you use your mind and talents to post nonsense about Covid 19 …

I do not consider a pandemic that has caused 164,000,000 cases of COVID- 19 with 3,400,000 deaths worldwide to be “nonsense.”

You may however in blissful ignorance continue to do so.

… as if you work for the fools in high places who delight in poking and prodding humanity with poisons, hoaxes, and other assorted evils.

Wrong perceptions are the cause of all afflictions.

You don’t need to live this way—angry at the world and frustrated with yourself.

Read this

Seems beneath you.

Reading and responding to your tripe is beneath me – But I somehow manage to do it anyway…

With all your intellect, you turn away from God. I fear that this passage of Scripture applies to you...

It is not strange that you use the word “fear – Since the phrase “fear not” is used at least 80 times in the Bible, most likely because He knows the enemy uses fear to decrease our hope and limit our victories.

Since it is written to “FEAR NOT” – I don’t fear and neither should you …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-19   19:02:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Gatlin (#48)

Since it is written to “FEAR NOT” – I don’t fear and neither should you …

Where does it say that in scripture, Gatlin? To fear God is to love him and his commandments. Which is how one comes to understanding him in the first place. To not fear God is to doubt everything about him. This is His earth and not ours. When you see the fires taking places all over earth and calamity in crazy weather, who do you think is doing all this? Nope, its not global warming. It is God himself. He is destroying his earth because he is literally fed up and disgusted with us all. And I say, amen to that.

goldilucky  posted on  2021-05-29   11:38:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: goldilucky (#61) (Edited)

I will of course answer your question.

But first, I graciously point out to you this thread is about:

COVID Fraud – Lawyers & Medical Experts start legal proceedings against W.H.O and World Leaders for ‘Crimes against Humanity’

You posted to Stone here:

Thank you for posting this article.

I could not understand why you thanked Stone. So, I pointed out to you here that:

Reiner Fuellmich is not a physician. Reiner Fuellmich is simply yet another of the many consumer protection trial lawyers

No surprisingly, Reiner Fuellmich’s lawsuit has not reached any court so far.

Canada’s top court is not hearing case about Covid-19 ‘crimes.’

Then I next pointed out to you here where:

We Call Out Reiner Fuellmich as a Fraud. The Covid Conspirator Investigated.

I even furnished you here with:

The Transcript of Dr. Reiner Fuellmich’s “Crimes Against Humanity.”

As I have stated: I will graciously answer your question …

Where does it say that in scripture, Gatlin?

… but I would like to know why you skipped all the pings to you and made your way all the way the thread to Post #48 where you were not specifically pinged to ask me to be your “secretary” and go to the trouble to show you:

Where does it say …
“FEAR NOT”
… in scripture, Gatlin?

I ask that you please explain to me “why” you did not address any of my pings on the topic of this thread.

While I wait for your answer, I will start looking up the Scriptures you requested.

This “secretarial duty” undertaking will take time, a great deal of time – Be patient …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-05-29   14:29:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Gatlin (#62)

Re-read my post #4. That is the point in my addressing Stone's post which is absolutely correct. The vaccine has never been proven to "heal" anybody but is an experiment on unsuspecting people.

We are all born with natural antibodies to help our immune systems to fight free-radicals and diseases. Most people are now coming to the realization that these diseases are man-made and fall under Title 50 of that post #4 which I took the liberty to mention to you. It is up to the people to make intelligent and informed decisions about what they put in their bodies.

Your body is a temple of God. Why would you pollute it with filth and garbage?

goldilucky  posted on  2021-05-29   19:31:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: goldilucky, and Everyody (#63) (Edited)

We are all born with natural antibodies to help our immune systems to fight free-radicals and diseases.

This is true.

Most people are now coming to the realization that these diseases are man-made …

This is also true.

But you then go on to assume something without research to present supporting facts.

… and fall under Title 50 of that post #4 which I took the liberty to mention to you.

First of all, you did not take “the liberty to mention” anything to me in your post #4 since your post #4 was To: A K A Stone and never to me.

And secondly, 50 U.S. Code § 1520a pertains ONLY to …

… restrictions on use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents.

The Covid-19 vaccines administered are not in any way used on “human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents.”

So it is that you not only cherry pick Scripture and misapply it to support your agenda – You also cherry pick a law and misapply it to support your agenda.

You really need to stop doing this because there are some gullible people who will do no research and consequently believe your falsely unsubstantiated claims.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-06-01   1:29:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Gatlin (#69)

academic.logos.com/the-co...y-footnote-bottom-1-12281

stillnessinthestorm.com/2...-vaccine-work-vaccine-id/

21stcenturywire.com/2019/...o-check-for-vaccinations/

economictimes.indiatimes..../articleshow/41280050.cms

academic.logos.com/the-co...-according-to-revelation/

US Patents on the covid vaccine

patentscope.wipo.int/sear...ail.jsf?docId=US291464337

patentscope.wipo.int/sear...il.jsf?docId=WO2019018301

patentscope.wipo.int/sear...il.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

patents.google.com/patent/WO2020060606A1/en

id2020.org/alliance

goldilucky  posted on  2021-06-03   15:03:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: All (#70) (Edited)

Also, you may want to check out this too:

http://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6666

www.moleculardevices.com/...r/november-2020.html#gref

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferase

goldilucky  posted on  2021-06-03   18:05:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: goldilucky, and Everybody (#71) (Edited)

The point of our discussion is NOT:

US Patents on the covid vaccine.

The point of our discussion is:

50 U.S. Code § 1520a

Stay on TOPIC – Please.

Also, you may want to check out this too:

To check those out, would be an absolute waste of my time.

I do NOT need to “also check anything out.”

Since the solemn fact remains that 50 U.S. Code § 1520a pertains ONLY to:

… restrictions on use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents.

And all your SPAMMING does not change the FACT that:

The Covid-19 vaccines administered are not in any way used on “human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents.”

So, SPAM all you desire.

I stand by my statement – Backed up by what is written into the law.

You need to get a grip on reality.

Stick to the truth that is – And not what you would like truth to be.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-06-04   0:04:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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