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Title: Pelosi's Iowa power grab – here's why House speaker is trying to steal this seat
Source: fox
URL Source: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/pel ... -grab-steal-seat-newt-gingrich
Published: Mar 29, 2021
Author: Newt Gingrich
Post Date: 2021-03-29 20:24:07 by tankumo
Keywords: None
Views: 1963
Comments: 16

Republican Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks is the certified winner of Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District election.

In an ironic show of Democratic hypocrisy, her opponent, Rita Hart – with the help of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. – is objecting to the election results.

Miller-Meeks won by a small margin of six votes, as certified by a bipartisan election board. Hart realized her challenge was more likely to be favorably entertained by Pelosi than by any court, so she bypassed Iowa’s court system and took her objection directly to the U.S. Congress.

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#1. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#0)

In an ironic show of Democratic hypocrisy, her opponent, Rita Hart – with the help of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. – is objecting to the election results.

Speaking of an “ironic show of hypocrisy” –

House Republicans Who Backed Overturning Election Now Accuse Pelosi Of Trying To ‘Steal’ House Seat

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-30   0:44:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#1)

House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result, everyone knows that. There were so many fraud incidents, and many are being charged now.

tankumo  posted on  2021-03-30   0:47:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#2) (Edited)

House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result, everyone knows that.

“NEWS FLASH” – NOT “everyone knows that.” The Politico/Morning Consult poll of 1,987 registered voters found the majority of respondents overall think the 2020 presidential election between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden was a “free and fair election.” There are many other results to show the same. One additional report is here that shows: “More Americans Happy About Trump Loss Than Biden Win.”

There were so many fraud incidents and many are being charged now.

There were many “CLAIMS” of widespread voter fraud but not ONE claim was ever duly substantiated that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. NOT A SINGLE ONE. Show links to the “many being charged now” – Please. As to your cry of “many fraud incidents” – All the courts found there were “NONE.” A list of groups and individuals who have found no merit in your “claim” is found here. Even Donald Trump’s own Attorney General, William Barr, said here that the U.S. Justice Department uncovered “no evidence of widespread voter fraud.”

In logic and reasoning, if someone assumes something without researching all the facts – they often end up with a wrong impression or belief. When expressed in more precise philosophical language, a fallacy of defective induction is a conclusion that has been made on the basis of weak premises, or one which is not justified by sufficient or unbiased evidence.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-30   2:02:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4)

Frauds occur in everything, stock market, competition, election, business.....this is human bad behavior.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/north- carolina/articles/2021-03-19/nc-federal-attorneys-24-more-charged- in-voter-fraud-probe

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-men-charged-8000-ballot- applications

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/database- swells-1285-proven-cases-voter-fraud-america

https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2020/12/09/draft-n2581319

https://www.albanyherald.com/news/35-voter-fraud-cases-in-georgia- turned-over-for-prosecution/article_b18466ee-6f9a-11eb-a0b6- 2755984dfaf1.html

https://bearingdrift.com/2020/12/26/vindication-confirmed-cases-of- voter-fraud-in-pa-mi-wi/

tankumo  posted on  2021-03-31   1:04:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tankumo, abd Everyone (#5)

Frauds occur in everything, stock market, competition, election, business.....this is human bad behavior.

What you say here is true.

House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result, everyone knows that.

What you said here is simply not true.

And I fully explained to you here why it was not true.

I asked you to: “Show links to the “many being charged now” [regarding the 2020 presidential election] – Please.”

You posted this as the first Link:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/north- carolina/articles/2021-03-19/nc-federal-attorneys-24-more-charged- in- voter-fraud-probe

The first line in your first link reads:

A federal North Carolina prosecutor’s office that has been investigating allegations of voter-related fraud says 24 more people have been charged over the past 18 months.

“Over the past 18 months” definitely is not as you said, “many being charged now.”

You then posted this link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-men-charged-8000-ballot- applications

That article is about:

Voter fraud scheme was an attempt to help one of the accused men win his bid for [LA’s] mayor, DA's office says

The link has absolutely nothing to do with the 2020 presidential election – the subject we are discussing.

I simply did not waste time checking the rest of your links since the first two being proven so grossly wrong in compliance for the links I asked for – were more than enough for me to see that you have no evidence to support your claim.

I am therefore compelled to stand by the convincing evidence I supplied that there were many “CLAIMS” of widespread voter fraud but not ONE claim was ever duly substantiated that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-31   2:28:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#6)

We are in this thread "Pelosi's Iowa power grab – here's why House speaker is trying to steal this seat"

This has nothing to do with presidential election either.

Generally speaking, election fraud is real, at every level, even at the past presidential elections, including non-presidential level.

Only a fool believes there is no election fraud at all levels. There were frauds, but many were not caught.

The fact that the media tried to influence the election is also a fraud. When the media tried to bury Biden's skeleton, that was fraud. When the media tired to help Hillary in 2016, that was fraud. And we can go on and on and on, fact is, the media is the reason why Biden was elected.

You have the right to think otherwise.

https://spectator.us/topic/evidence-actually-rudy-giuliani-voter- fraud/

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2021/03/10/stop-the-steal/

tankumo  posted on  2021-03-31   19:58:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#7) (Edited)

We are in this thread "Pelosi's Iowa power grab – here's why House speaker is trying to steal this seat"

This has nothing to do with presidential election either.

You are correct, in that what you say here doesn’t have anything to do with the presidential election.

You however said here: “House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result.” In response to what I said here: “House Republicans Who Backed Overturning [Presidential] Election Now Accuse Pelosi Of Trying To ‘Steal’ House Seat.”

So, you are wrong in saying: “This has nothing to do with presidential election either.”

First, because we were discussing the presidential election – As you can see.

And secondly, when the Senate and House meet to formally tally the states’ Electoral College votes for the presidential election — A state’s results can only be contested if a lawmaker from the House and Senate submit a formal challenge to the results.

So, please do not try to tell me that I am “out of bounds” in my discussion. That simply will not work since I have shown you that my statements were in context.

This has nothing to do with presidential election either.

Generally speaking, election fraud is real, at every level, even at the past presidential elections, including non-presidential level.

Only a fool believes there is no election fraud at all levels. There were frauds, but many were not caught.

The fact that the media tried to influence the election is also a fraud. When the media tried to bury Biden's skeleton, that was fraud. When the media tired to help Hillary in 2016, that was fraud. And we can go on and on and on, fact is, the media is the reason why Biden was elected.

You have the right to think otherwise.

I know that I have the right to think otherwise. But I do not. I am in total agreement with you – Albeit as you say, “generally speaking.”

https://spectator.us/topic/evidence-actually-rudy-giuliani-voter- fraud/

I said that I agree with you “generally speaking.”

I however said here that: “Not ONE claim was ever duly substantiated that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. NOT A SINGLE ONE.”

I emphatically, STAND BY THAT STATEMENT.

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2021/03/10/stop-the- steal/

Same response to this link that I made to the link above – Nothing changes.

I will be happy to believe and agree with you when you can show me factual results where any voter fraud changed the outcome of he 2020 presidential election.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-31   21:12:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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